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So pennywise can't technically be taken by the entity? he wouldn't surrender either

UrbanChaos45UrbanChaos45 Member Posts: 37

So basically he can't technically be taken by the entity he's an entity of himself and no way would he surrender to DBD's entity unless he got his but kicked by the entity and that's how pennywise loses.


  • Nyaren_ChanNyaren_Chan Member Posts: 84

    Well, sometimes it isn't necessarily about " submitting " by force to the Entity. I believe a few killers such as Pig, Myers and Ghostface accepted just for their own pleasure/scheme. Amanda Young for example saw this as a way to test people, without giving them too much of a chance to be redeemed ( she ended up disagreeing with Jigsaw's Philosophy but still pay some form of tribute to him ).

    In a nutshell, you don't have to get your butt kicked by the Entity to accept to "submit" to its will, then again, what is Pennywise's purpose ?

  • UrbanChaos45UrbanChaos45 Member Posts: 37

    Well pennywise i believe is stronger than the entity in DBD, The only way for BHVR to tell a story is that pennywise dragged someone from the losers club to be with him in the entity'a world.

  • Nyaren_ChanNyaren_Chan Member Posts: 84

    Well the Entity has its own world with its own rules. I am sure there would be a way to justify Pennywise ending up in its world regardless.

  • RydogRydog Member Posts: 1,515

    It's just lore, they'll find a way to make the framing device fit whatever they decide they want to add.

    The Entity is a "Dark Powers of Ravenloft" kind of deal -- it's intentionally vague so it can be whatever they need it to be.

  • RaptorrotasRaptorrotas Member Posts: 1,541

    Like already mentioned, there are ways...

    Freddy had the same thing. The entity managed to snatch him and before he knew he'd have to abide to someone else's rules.

    Same would probably apply to Pennywise, while I have absolute no clue about that guy, if the entity would manage to get him into the game, he'd have to play by the entity's rules.

  • FibijeanFibijean Member Posts: 1,434

    I think the distinguishing point is that all the killers so far have been ordinary humans or monsters. Basically physical beings. To my understanding, Pennywise, like the DBD entity, is essentially a kind of Lovecraftian horror. While he can take a physical form, his existence is metaphysical. It goes beyond the supernatural, both of them are more like gods. That's why it's difficult to see how one could fit in with the other lore-wise without compromising the essence of their character.

  • UrbanChaos45UrbanChaos45 Member Posts: 37

    Yeah this is what I meant but couldn't put it into words

  • RaptorrotasRaptorrotas Member Posts: 1,541

    "I bet you'd suck at this"

    - The Entity, 20 minutes before a very drunk Pennywise accepts a humiliating challenge from an equally drunk spider buddy.

  • Jacoby2041Jacoby2041 Member Posts: 311

    Maybe the Entity wouldn't be able to capture him, just allow him to take physical form in its trials to have fun hunting the survivors. So Pennywise would still exist outside of the Entity's world and wouldn't be controlled by it, it would be more like the Entity made a deal with him to let him hunt as many survivors as he wants as long as he plays by the rules.

  • ThatonesurvivorThatonesurvivor Member Posts: 7

    If that was the case then children would have to be added to the trials. And penny wise only preys on kids. So the adults would be useless to kill since he needs fear. And I doubt a child knows how to repair a generator or survive being on a hook

  • sobrat1sobrat1 Member Posts: 28

    Pennywise can be trapped and weakened. I think it is In the Dark Tower that we see a bit of that.

    So if the entity is not afraid then it would defeat and control pennywise easily I think.

    And it would be nice to get a survivor not from the losers club but someone with the shining.

  • HuntedfailureHuntedfailure Member Posts: 162

    who's to say the entity and it can't make a deal. they both get an infinite source of food through trials so the entity could offer that.

  • xZeroStrikexZeroStrike Member Posts: 89

    " The Entity grew strong enough to create a physical proxy, and became able to hunt survivors itsself. Of course it would keep its other loyal, and not-so loyal, servants to hunt more while it was doing the same. Now, all that the Entity needed was a shape. Something to visualise to instill fear in its victims. It looked through the other world, from which it had snagged all its previous victims. There was a boy watching something on a strange device... a clown-like creature appeared inside the mysterious box... the Entity could sense it... the child felt... fear. And thus, the Entity knew exactly what its proxy would look like. "

    And Pennywise entered the roster.

  • Walker_of_the_fog_96Walker_of_the_fog_96 Member Posts: 492

    no, pennywise will not enter the game.

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