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"You ruined my fun"

So I'm a survivor main but I play both survivor and killer, and have reached rank 1 in both (mind you I haven't reached rank 1 killer since October 2018, and I'm not that good with killer anymore). With Dead By Daylight I notice an expectation that their opponent's job is to provide them with a "fun game".

To be honest this is mostly from survivors, who some believe it's the killers job to provide them with a fun game. Whilst it's not entirely survivors, I've had killers messaging me to declare that I am now on their Mori list because they couldn't catch me or because I saved someone with with borrowed time at the end of the game.

My response is that to those who have the opinion that it's their opponents job to provide them with a fun game, do you care about how much fun they are having in the game?

I certainly don't care about the killers enjoyment of the game when I play survivor. My version of fun is being able to be chased by the killer for a long period of time, till when all the generators are powered up, the killer is driven to facecamp me, or the killer disconnects (especially when I see at the end of the game, the killer is a red rank). I highly doubt the killer is having a wonderful time in those situations.

So I don't care about the killer's enjoyment, so I don't expect the killer to care about my enjoyment of the game.



  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,919


    Its the reason why I've disabled the post-game chat and why I don't allow random comments on my Steam profile. No matter how I play, it ain't gonna be the "right" way. No point in trying.

  • Nutty_ProfessorNutty_Professor Member Posts: 621

    If you are farmed off the hook that isn't really the killers problem. Although when I play killer I try to go after the unhooker, and try and slug the farmed survivor to prevent the farmer getting a safe hook bonus, but you can't expect every killer to do that. When I'm farmed off the hook and then instantly hooked again, my frustration is aimed at the farming survivor rather than the killer.

    Also with generators, again if generators are done too quickly that is not the survivors problem either. It's more the killers fault for not providing map pressure. Although generators hardly get done quickly in my survivor games, I've been in chases which have lasted nearly twenty minutes, and not all the generators have been powered.

  • StompaStompa Member Posts: 154

    imagine what kind of human beeing you have to be to end up on one

  • StompaStompa Member Posts: 154

    if you say so, i highly doubt that, what brings a person to create a mori list in the first place? seme decent in a meta that caters to every millenial ree sound imo more like an insult.

    but you can feel free to try and play killers like trapper or wraith without ruin and just try to "enjoy" the game. dont forget to pay close attention to the post game chat.

  • AldoferAldofer Member Posts: 458

    i never care or cared about other fun since all i see is abuse from the opposite team, and even if that weren't the case i find fun what other find unfun so better deal with it

  • TragicSolitudeTragicSolitude Member Posts: 5,894

    I had a survivor message me once to complain that the match was boring because I didn't chase her. She kept trying to loop me so I'd just ditch and go pressure gens. Apparently, that wasn't fun for her.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,598
    edited November 2019

    Not all Mori lists are for the same reasons.

    I used to keep one for Sandbaggers but decided it wasn't worth the effort and let it go.

    TheEntityLeftHand, a roleplay streamer, keeps a Blacklist of Offenders for those who don't live up to his ideals of how a survivor should act as part of his "Character". Those of us in his "Court" enjoy these bloodhunts for offenders as the best part of his show. Does that make us sad too?

  • AGuyNamedKaneAGuyNamedKane Member Posts: 71
    edited November 2019

    Someone has to "lose." We can't all be winners every single match. That's just ridiculous to think that way. Move on and keep playing.

    My advice for players? Stop letting other players get to you. When players cry and yell at you like spoiled two-year-olds, ignore it and move on. It isn't my responsibility to teach them how to respect others.

    Edit: Spelling. I need to learn to type better on my phone.

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,571

    I had survivors yesterday report me and threaten that im getting banned because I didn't fall for Decisive Strike tricks. A guy literally claimed its bannable to NOT pick someone up that you think has DS. He said you're supposed to try and pick them up anyways or else its taking the game hostage.

    I have a REALLY difficult time believing some of these people are serious but there actually are people like this....

  • humanbeing1704humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 7,426
  • oxygenoxygen Member Posts: 2,851

    Personally I draw the line somewhere near letting the idea of causing other people to have a bad time be an actual primary or near-primary motivation.

    I don't expect people to let me catch them or avoid catching me in general, but I do firmly believe that playing specifically to piss people off ("playing for salt") is a bit dumb at best, and straight up pathetic at worst. If people simply happen to get annoyed at however I play that's one thing, but I won't go out of my way to be unfun just for the sake of being unfun to play against.

  • DBD_PinheadDBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 762

    The best one I've had was someone messaged me that camping was ban worthy. When I told him that issue was already addressed by the devs, he said it was still valid, citing one of the version 1 builds. We we're in version 2.7.1 when this happened back in May. When I pointed this out: crickets.

  • NinoV1NinoV1 Member Posts: 382

    Funny, I’ve never been messaged by a salty killer, only salty survivors 🤔

  • ASurvkillivorerASurvkillivorer Member Posts: 1,571

    I just NOW was the odd person out of a group. Got paired with an 3 person SWF group who of course lied about being SWF after the fact.

    I finish the first gen myself then 90% a 2nd gen. Get chased by Myers someone finishes that gen and then they finish another one right as I get downed. 3 gens done thanks to me. I get unhooked and finish a 4th gen. A person gets unhooked and I team heal. Then I run to unhook another person and heal them.

    Right as the 5th gen gets done I got super unlucky and Myers noticed me in T3 and downs me. As it expires the one player runs right past my hook all the way to the other persons who they then unhook and don't even try to come save me. If that wasn't enough I got am essage from one of them DURING the match that I "better come save them" as if I wasn't busy doing everything.

    To think ALL THREE messaged me after the match. That has never happened before. I carry a team and they purposely let me die and then ask me why I was so useless even though I have the better score.....

  • Huntress4LifeHuntress4Life Member Posts: 48

    I've made one sheerly for the people who screw their own team over, or for the ones who are absolutely rude and have DDos'd me. That's my only reason to make one, and thus it stays

  • Johnny_XManJohnny_XMan Member Posts: 5,874
    edited November 2019

    I think while you have a point, fun doesn’t necessarily mean “winning” for some people.

    You can die as a survivor and still have fun, and you can lose as a killer and still have fun. Some builds are not “fun”... whether survivor or killer.

    Everyone is allowed to feel that something isn’t fun. Just because they may point it out to you doesn’t mean you should stop doing whatever you’re doing.

    Sometimes things just happen that make a match unfun. For example someone dcing at the start of the much, I don’t care how much you love Thana/Ruin/DyingLight that match is probably going to be boring.

  • terumisanterumisan Member Posts: 1,293

    I had a survivor tell me they were going to facecamp and mori me so I responded how will you mori me if you facecamp

  • CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 1,309
    edited November 2019

    Sorta low-key makes me hope the killers actually Mori tf out of you.

    Don't worry tho, I deserve to be morid and camped.

  • RevansithRevansith Member Posts: 367

    As a gray 20 killer I am not anywhere near good enough to "win" a match or hook anyone. But I did try to make the match fun. Sometimes the relief of a survivor having a match where the Killer isnt trying to exterminate the entire team in under three minutes makes for a more enjoyable game.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    I'm seeing a ton of "it's your own responsibility to have fun" however when most of us have fun you call it toxic and cry here. Ohh they crouched and showed off that u couldn't catch them 😂 😂 it's only toxic when you suck and someone else isn't making it fun for you. Get over yourselves honestly, either you want this to be a fun game or you want this to be a game you can win, it'll never be both 🤷‍♂️

  • FibijeanFibijean Member Posts: 8,343
    edited November 2019

    My opinion is not that it's my opponent's job to provide me with a fun game, so to speak - rather, it's that everyone should play with good sportsmanship in mind, and if that happens everyone will have fun.

    Do I care about the killer's enjoyment of the game? Absolutely. I never BM, I never teabag or click my flashlight, and I don't bully or taunt the killer at the gates. If I do anything that makes the killer's experience less fun, it's because it's necessary to ensure the safety of my teammates (like bodyblocking for someone who's on deathhook). If the killer is obviously new, I go out of my way to give them a fun game. I might even let them kill me just to give them that sense of achievement. When I play killer, I like to play similarly decently - I don't camp, I try not to tunnel, often the only people I even kill are the ones who BM.

    So yes, I care very much about my opponents' experience. I don't expect the same from them, but I do hope that they might have some concern for my enjoyment just as I have for theirs, and be a good sport in their approach to playing the game because in my opinion good sportsmanship is just part of being a decent, empathetic human being.

  • CecaeliaCecaelia Member Posts: 42
    edited November 2019

    Yes actually it does. That is just griefing, it's not anything else and I wish BHVR and Twitch would crack down on it. You guys are doing the EXACT same thing you say you don't want survivors doing. "Don't tell me not to use NOED!" Meanwhile: "Omg that survivor cleansed my ruin?! Omg they are going on my blacklist and I'm going to tunnel/camp/stand on their slugged body them every time I have them in my lobby!" It makes it worse because the survivor cannot tell who they are playing against so they have to be apart of the dog and pony show. Not only that but he is going out of his way to make the match as unenjoyable as possible for someone else and belittling people in front of hundreds of people, and in turn allowing them to make fun, belittle, add them on steam to make fun of them some more. The prime example of twitch streamers weaponizing their communities against people.

    He is the perfect example of why MLGA existed. Like the spitting poster boy. E. w.

  • CecaeliaCecaelia Member Posts: 42

    Yes, I'm the same way. But I'm not going to make an entire website and stick your name on it and then grief you every time you come into my lobby, and then make an entire event around it and make fun of you in front of hundreds of people...with hundreds of people. Pretty sure they use a word legally for that type of behavior too.

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