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Trapper useless

No one goes into his traps, he can't stealth, he is as basic as killers get, even legion outclasses him, personally I'd but trapper as a F tier, as a killer he has no use that give him a edge to other killers, as a survivor he is laughable as a free win, the one time I got someone trapped, was at end game and they mocked me (back fired but it was in an obvious place cause I was getting fed up of his weak ass and got me a hook and I camped that, I was a salty boi) why is he even here anyways? Can't slow gen progress, setting up is time consuming in a game that gens are complete in 10 seconds, settings at windows is pointless cause they get disarmed almost the instant you're in a chase, when at higher ranks, if you lose to the trapper, you have some serious thinking on how you're playing cause it ain't the killer being too strong I promise you that, trapper weak, no help in chase, traps cause more distractions than anything, remove or buff please I don't care (I don't care to be honest I felt left out not moaning, but trapper is very useless compared to the other killers at high ranks, that's no joke)

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  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,786

    You should check out Not Otzdarva on youtube. He has some plenty educational gameplay with Trapper that might teach you a few tips and tricks.

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    That is actually pretty much the issue summed up into a big fix, definitely have survivors a bit more cautious and much slower

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    It doesn't help, I play both sides and saw through all of it almost instantly, it would work if he started with alot more, but I've tried his method and I've had it used against me, it's laughable, and I think he needs to update it, survivors at high ranks don't fall for something so obvious, they know it all

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    It's basically blind luck for his traps to get anyone, watching all these help videos I'm convinced are fake, cause when applied, or seen applied in a real game, it's, see through, either that or I'm observant as hell

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,629

    I don’t think trapper is bad at all. I think a vast majority of people play like classic trappers and survivors have adapted to it for the most part.


    what do I mean by classic trapper?

    i mean the basement stairs are trapped.

    pallets trapped

    windows trapped

    along the sides of walls trapped

    it’s pretty cut and dry

    it’s not that it isn’t affective(Bc it used to be) it’s just that survivors have seen it a million times and it’s become washed out as far as an advantage play.

    try some new out of the box trap placements.

    also trapper should start with more traps in his base kit by default if not all.

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    I don't place too typically, the odd few cause you know, tried and true, but I put in places you often retreat quickly to hide when doing gens or just cause it's there, but don't work, trapper needs something for pallets, like Freddy can with the nightmare pallets, they work great for survivors in a rush, maybe not to injure but to slow down or on dropped pallets to slow them down, or place a hidden trap that only damages but works only once per pallet, idfk but he needs a buff cause he feels so....[BAD WORD]

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,629
  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    Depends what you mean by that, if you mean they are dotted near the gen then lightly, very lightly, if you mean in places people 100% goes to for cover then yes that too

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 4,249
    • don’t place traps in far too obvious places.
    • Try and be sure you’re not being watched by survivors when placing traps. (Whispers)
    • It doesn’t matter if survivors disarm traps. They’re still taking a risk by giving away their location, and you can try to punish accordingly.
  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247
  • MarcusMarcus Member Posts: 1,411

    Yes, he is pretty useless, but I would say Clown and Legion are still worse.

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,629

    No I mean picking a group of gens that are clustered together and then trapping loops(not pallets or walls) in the area.

    its going to throw the first half of the match but most of the time they’ll three gen themselves giving closing to you.

    Throw on pop and blood warden. The second half is all yours. They’d have to be a very very good team to over come that.

    don’t chase them into already completed gen zones where you haven’t trapped you’ll destroy your momentum by doing this in the second half.

    trapper is a strategy end game killer. The more people realize this the better results they’ll have with him.

  • Hag.is.DtierHag.is.Dtier Member Posts: 491

    Useless? No but he is definitely bad. Traps are buggy and too small, he wastes time setting up traps, making corrupt intervention a requirement against optimal survivors. Trapper should have tar bottle at base, so his traps are actually more hidden and harder to find (the point of a trap is that you don't see it coming).

  • PhoxPhox Member Posts: 171

    Trapper is not nearly as bad as you’re making him out to be. He could definitely use some buffs, but he’s in no way an F tier killer.

    If you’re placing traps all over the map in all the obvious places then yes, he’s fairly weak. The way to play him is by placing your traps in one section of the map and corralling the survivors into those traps like cattle. If you play survivor then you should know the places they will run to in a chase, the key is to exploit that knowledge.

    If you are not using your traps wisely then he’s as basic of a killer as you can play, but that doesn’t mean he is garbage.

  • CrowFoxyCrowFoxy Member Posts: 635

    He's very bad, but he's still decent.

    Imo he'd be way stronger if traps

    A. Dealt damage, they currently don't and just make you injured. And injured surv should go down. (unless helped)

    B. No RNG. A flat time of 10 secs to escape, more with add ons up to maybe 15-17 ish.

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    They aren't placed randomly, I've tried that method, it doesn't work, nor does the method you mentioned, by the time you've done that, a survivor has seen and the rest most likely knows afterwards, and will make every effort not to go there, trapper just doesn't have enough for him to be worthwhile, I hear all the advice but even when I try it, even when watching other do exactly what I did, it doesn't work for me, if it works for you, you got special survivors but all of mine never goes where I want them to go, I can copy exactly as they do, and since all of what these YouTube videos never work I had to do my own stuff and it actually works better, as in I actually win, trapper isn't one of them that wins, and I do better ignoring the guides, I'll stick with my killers that can actually win, I have them to do different roles anyways

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    Yes I've done this, they rekted my traps as soon as I entered a chase, until all was gone, I got a few hooked but at the cost of all my traps, then it was a standard 3 gen, it's then another game thinking it was a fluke cause I believed that would be the game changing strat, after 3 gens left, hatch, so setting up leads to that, then I did again cause they did hatch, fluke I thought, but nope, same as the first, someone took me for a ride in my own death pit avoiding each and every trap, and the rest took them out one by one, I will admit, I raged on that one, threw on Freddy and won a ton of games cause I got a bit annoyed lol

  • HeroLivesHeroLives Member Posts: 1,629

    idk what to tell you Bc I’ve seen survivors in multitudes fall to this. Trap placement is very important.

    rule of thumb though when I say trap loops I mean trap the places they’re running to Bc they aren’t running where you did place them. I avoid tall grass, windows , walls , pallets when going against trapper.

    I can’t tell you how many times I can go matches without getting caught in traps Bc I specifically avoid those areas against him.

    Do or don’t do what you will with that information, I’m not spelling it out on the forum to f up a good trapper strategy.

  • vossler25vossler25 Member Posts: 247

    Maybe I just have bad luck with who I get as trapper

  • TunnelVisionTunnelVision Member Posts: 164

    Have to agree. I really struggled doing the 'catch 2 survivors in traps in a single match'

    First two games a few had small game and just kept undoing my traps. Other games they would dodge them all together. 7 games as trapper was my personal hell!

  • Warlock_2020Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 1,281

    I main Trapper and will admit he has issues, but is far from useless. You can't play him like you do other killers. You have to be willing to give up ground while setting up a portion of the map as your hellish playground.

    Being creative with traps help as well. Sure, trap some of the usual spots just to keep the survivors honest, but toss in some surprise double traps, or a trap in an open area, then herd them towards it .

    Most of my matches are snowball matches. Little pressure at first with the loss of 2 to 3 gens. Then it is like a wall comes up and they can't do anything but run.

    Allowing Trapper to carry more traps as base kit, and to step over his traps might go a long way to help his viability.

  • TheALIENTheALIEN Member Posts: 327

    Start with all traps- make them not glow like bloody fireflies- make brutal strength part of his base-kit.

  • WeckWeck Member Posts: 1,597

    Spoke like someone who doesn't use 900 IQ traps. XD

    But seriously, are you expecting people to just walk into your traps? That can happen, sure. But people walk carefully when trapper is around.

    You gotta herd them. Get into a chase and make them move towards your trap.

    You are not defending the entire map, you pick an area to be your territory, that's where you put your traps. The survivors should be extremely paranoid when they go into your territory, if they aren't, make them.

  • TheALIENTheALIEN Member Posts: 327

    Sadly though, you have to have decent trap spawns to make this work- horrific when trying to lay claim to an area when you get only maybe one or two traps dotted about- especially on the larger maps =c

  • Jb94Jb94 Member Posts: 42

    Trapper is great. One of the few killers that rewards tactical decisions and foresight. If you're having as much trouble with him then those just aren't strengths of yours and that's fine: nonetheless he is NOT a bad killer. If you actually want to get better at him, learn where popular loops are and how survivors think when running them.

    While a few tweaks would be appreciated, but there are killers who need to their entire kits looked at, so he's not a priority.

  • JiggleWiggleJiggleWiggle Member Posts: 245

    Im trapping where i run carelessly as a survivor. You can have a lot of luck in cornmaps

    Also dull totems and chests plus the sharp edge on the basement stairs

    Trapper is actually really brutal on Hawkins Lab if you're trapping the infinite and the balanced landing spots

    But yeah he needs a little love

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 1,114

    I think he's mid tier, but he has way too much counterplay with OoO/comms/maps/small game. Also, how in the world is he still starting with and carrying one trap after three years?

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