It kinda is and easily countered, DON'T SAVE or just bait him to hit hooked surv on hook
I don't mind insidious, there are other creative uses for it other than camping. It is also one of the few ways that you can actually scare someone.
Again I head on , dead hard, quick and quiet and spine chill. It's not about me not noticing it. It's about him tunneling the first person to death.
No I’m saying that if you were good you should know. Hey it’s a leatherface and someone is in the basement OR hey it’s leatherface I should stay away from the basement. Then you wouldn’t need to worry about anything. Come on dude, you’re complaining about one of the worst killers of the game with a perk that he is known to have. If you’re still getting killed by it, then it’s your fault and no one else’s. Open your eyes. Adapt. Get better. Get Good.
Again... If you dont unhook you can barely safety pip.
I unhooked the guy on the hook. He hit him twice, then got DSed and then hooked him.
Again read every post. Half of the posts are mine. If you let him insidious camp. And you do all 5 gens and open doors. Do some sabo and destroy some totem. There is no way you can even safety pip... at best you can get 8k by doing gens if you do 2.5 gens with someone. 0 altruism. 5k in survival and let's say 3k in baldness. That's not a safety pip.
Then bait him. Make him chase you.
I am done with you first you say dont save him now you say bait him if I am baiting him i am not doing gens if i am not doing gens we are definitely not escaping. Besides baiting wont do squat because he will go back to camping.
Have a nice day, I hope you continue insidious camping like a pro you are. Thank for listening to my TEDtalk.
EZ fix, if the camper has been in range for half of struggle state without another survivor in range then apply a debuff to speed to camper that gradually resides as camper leaves hook. Nearly guaranteeing that the killer will get no more then one kill.
Killers camp hook because they know survivors want to play the game and survivors will give themselves up and snowball the match to give the match life again. A debuff to speed will get the camped victim free and get the killer moving back towards playing the game since you know no kills equals no point in playing killer.
People like that dont care about points they want revenge for whatever that happened in last game(s)
No. There should never be some half-baked 'punishment' to camping Killers just because some Survivors are butthurt over it.
Camping is an accepted tactic.
Camping also punishes itself by giving up 3+ generators if the hooked person does not kill themselves on the hook.
So people need to stop whining for camping punishments. Esp since there WAS a punishment; Survivors stood outside the games 'range' and forced the Killer to either get punished or walk away & give up a free unhook.
People need to stop asking for punishments just because they hate a play style. It's no different form me saying 'Survivors in the exit gates should start moving slower the longer they stay there. This would guarantee that Killers can kill one of them for trolling by twerking instead of escaping' or me asking for a punishment for gen-rushing because Survivors are clearly preventing me from playing the game by finishing it in 3 minutes.
Camping punishes every single person in the game. It punishes the person on the hook the most ( if it's very early hook) then killer then the other 3 surivors
Was insidious buffed? Good perk now???
I wish, I was just pissed at camping bubba.
Bubba’s the most fun killer to vs until he catches you though... he will not be denied.
You do realize the Killer's objective is to remove people from the game? Again, you saying 'Punish camping!' is like me saying 'Punish genrush'.
You want a BS stacking debuff for camping near a Survivor, which other Survivors can (and have) abused to hell? Fine.
I want this punishment for Gen-rushing: Every 25% mark (25%/50%/75/99), if a Generator was not the target of a failed skillcheck within it's bracket (0-25%, 26-50%, 51-75%, 76-99%); it automatically fails a skillcheck. This would force, at minimum, 4 fails on each generator & give a Killer a chance to find Survivors!
I mean, if we're punishing Killers for playing to win, we may as well punish Survivors for playing to win. Both ideas are terrible, but hey! Who cares, so long as you force people to play only in ways you approve, right?
Dude I made a post with an idea in which one person had to die in order for the game to continue (after 4th gen if 4 people are alive one has to either sacrifice themself in an alter or die on hook in the meanwhile gens are blocked) because I know gen rushing is a thing.
So dont act high and might because you think that I am living in a survivor bubble and I want everything nerfed.
Anything else you want to add?
New Killer idea! The Camper! He has a little puptent beneath every hook. Which one has chosen as his home? Maybe even give him a little campfire and a log to sit on. Earn marshmallows to roast when survivors are hanging.
Yeah, this idea is going places! Just need to put a lil more thought into developing the intricacies! 😏
Read the entire thing before you post.
Oh don’t worry, I read your entire 17 word post complaining about something that is completely countered by Spine Chill and a general understanding of how to pay attention to your surroundings in game. Did you even read it yourself before posting? Both my post and your own?
Insidious actually still tricks people? Lol....
I haven't used it in forever because there are so many better perks...
If you think that it is about knowing that he is camping then you didnt read it. I said at least twice it's about the game being [BAD WORD]. Nobody will have fun. Everybody will surely depip. Thanks I dont plan on continuing this conversation with you since you clearly didnt read 17 posts. Thanks giving your input.
To answer your question: no. Read the rest of the of my replies to know why. Thanks.
I honestly don't care enough to do that, so I'll just let you do you.
Then you will never know.
Killer main here, just feeling bad for people so inept that they have to resort to camping or tunnels to get kills.
Honestly, we should address the toxic killers who think CaMpInG iS a LeGiTiMaTe StRaTeGy is a healthy, non-pathetic thing to say. It's evidence that the killer involved has no ability to actually maintain a skill level in a versus game, and no intention of developing one.
Addressing perks like Insidious is a good first step toward improving QoL for this game.
Are you the first sane person I met here? Perhaps I am dreaming of it.
I’ve met plenty of Leatherface players who didn’t camp and I use to main him in red ranks while keeping camping as a rare thing.
I'm a Pig main, but I make a point of cycling through the roster in low-mid rank games. I thoroughly enjoy playing Leatherface with Hangman's and Devour, even if the 5-stack is rare sometimes. Plenty of LF peeps aren't pricks, but his ability does lend itself to the sorry practice.