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Should the hook struggle key press be automated?

MagusDLMagusDL Member Posts: 2
edited November 26 in Polls

I find it annoying, pointless and unnecessary use of hardware. It's main purpose is to block escape attempts, the whole pressing key/button feels like a meaningless annoyance.

What do you think?


Edit: I meant "meaningless" instead of "meaningful", and added that I meant the hook struggle.

Should the hook struggle key press be automated? 88 votes

Yes.
77%
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No.
22%
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Comments

  • Nyaren_ChanNyaren_Chan Member Posts: 191
    Yes.

    Even when using other means such as scrolling down/up, it is just annoying. It should be automated and we should make the choice to give up or not, it would be better this way. I know the counter-argument is the devs made it a thing so the player would constantly be stressing out, but it keeps you waken up nonetheless since you are waiting for somebody to unhook you.

  • bobcat946732bobcat946732 Member Posts: 103
    edited November 26
    Yes.

    I think just holding whatever button would work much better then what we have now. On ps4 you can actually mash too fast and it will kill you because it doesn't register. If the ping is bad it will also sometimes just straight up kill you.

    Just being able to hold X would be wonderful.

  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,920
    Yes.

    As someone with Carpel Tunnel syndrome, hammering space-bar literally HURTS for me. If they made it so that you need to help it down instead.. that'd make me so happy.

  • JamesDBDJamesDBD Member Posts: 4
    No.

    I think it should remain manual, for the simple reason that you're playing as the survivor on the hook, you should be struggling to keep yourself alive.

    If you were pressing nothing it would be easier but you wouldn't feel as if you are struggling, which you should as its part of the game and you're on the second part of the hook.

  • JamesDBDJamesDBD Member Posts: 4
    No.

    Yeah, it is easy and annoying however I feel it should still remain manual, I'd rather do it and get the feeling im still actually playing the game rather than sitting there watching, whilst doing nothing.

  • DeKillerKillerDeKillerKiller Member Posts: 510
    Yes.

    I'd rather it be automated or just holding a single button.

    Holding down spacebar is less painful than smashing it to bits. My friends hate it whenever I play with them and I struggle because my keyboard is not quiet in the slightest.

  • FibijeanFibijean Member, Trusted Posts: 3,085
    Yes.

    It's not tense or immersive, it's just annoying and unreliable. Even for new players - my brother has 40 hours in the game and he's already completely over the struggle mechanic.

  • KillermainBTWm8KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 3,953
    Yes.

    Make it an option to toggle struggle on and off then. Thing is the struggle mechanic is unreliable and for people with something like carpal tunnel it is actually painful to do.

  • MegaWaffleMegaWaffle Member Posts: 2,943
    Yes.

    I'm saying "yes" to the hook struggle (thanks to ping sometimes killing you) but "no" to shoulder struggle.

  • SilentSpectreSilentSpectre Member Posts: 715
    No.

    Just bind it to scroll wheel, problem solved. (Sorry console users)

  • Nyaren_ChanNyaren_Chan Member Posts: 191
    Yes.

    Both are not the same. " Shoulder struggle " is simply called " Wiggle ".

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 2,874
    Yes.

    Make it so hold you Space to give up instead of mashing it to stay alive.

  • SebaOutbreakSebaOutbreak Member Posts: 86
    Yes.

    Yes, because struggling in the hook takes time and your keyboard or joystick will not thank you in the long run for constantly mashing it up.

    However I don't mind the wiggle while trying to escape the killer's grasp being two buttons (A+D in keyboard, dunno about console), because it usually doesn't take too much time, and sometimes wiggling is not even necessary when there's a hook right in front of the killer.

  • GarciaGarcia Member Posts: 41
    No.

    Rank 20-14 pressing A

    Rank 13-1 -> skill checks

    if the survivor struggling is in the killer terror radio then no skill check or A should be "out"/pressed

  • MagusDLMagusDL Member Posts: 2
    Yes.

    When I play with my brother it's the same issue, his kb is loud so it's annoying.

    But my main issue is overusing the hardware (kb/mouse/joystick) for no good reason. It's easy and adds nothing to the gameplay, it actually makes me more annoyed when people aren't going for the save.

    I meant "meaningless annoyance" btw.

  • ByrdByrd Member Posts: 20
    No.

    It depends on the case. I'd say change it to automatic, if not add stuff to do while in struggle instead of eating spacebar. (I choose wrong option haha)

  • JamesDBDJamesDBD Member Posts: 4
    edited November 29
    No.

    So main issues are: its annoying, its loud, using my keyboard too much.

    Can't say I like spamming space however its just another gameplay element and i cant see why pressing space is any louder than pressing any other key unless you are slamming your keyboard for no good reason.

    Also dont understand the point of you are pressing space too much, thats what a keyboard is for, pressing buttons, inputting commands. Are we changing W to toggle because we press it too much?

    Just my opinion of course.

  • GlamourousLeviathanGlamourousLeviathan Member Posts: 10
    Yes.

    I think that when the devs created this "struggle" interaction, they wanted to make something threatening for survivors on the hook's second stage. Something that seems like "you let yourself get caught a second time, now it's going to be more difficult to stay alive". However, instead of this, they created something that is just annoying and not challenging at all.


    I think they should change it. Instead of just pressing the space bar, maybe a minigame more complex would be better. This way, there would be a reason to survivors fear being caught a second time and also give them something less annoying.

  • ASpazNamedSteveASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,116
    No.

    I think it should still be manual, but not as obnoxious as it currently is. Yes I know it's meant to be you 'struggling' or whatever but I don't think it matters, an intentionally annoying mechanic sucks and shouldn't be a thing. Just make it something you have to do every few seconds, but is easy. Like ultra easy skillchecks. Or just be holding a button, idk.

    I think this mechanic can absolutely be improved whilst still requiring it to be manual.

  • BunnyTheHuttBunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,228
    No.

    Wait, I read the poll wrong and voted wrong, oops. I meant "no" as in, No, it shouldn't stay.

    I hate the struggle phase because of the stress it puts on the keyboard, plus playing survivor for a long time really wares out your hand when you're constantly in the struggle phase. The argument of "you're suppose too feel like you're in a struggle" is kinda weak when they could do many different things too make it feel like a struggle then mashing space bar.

  • BunnyTheHuttBunnyTheHutt Member Posts: 1,228
    No.

    It doesn't feel like a struggle now anyways. It always annoys me more then struggling. The struggle is not letting myself die so I can keep my keyboard.

  • MasantonioMasantonio Member Posts: 2,247
    Yes.

    I would at least add an opinion to turn it off, for those with various bone or tendon disorders.

  • then4321then4321 Member Posts: 64
    No.

    Pffffff... it's called macro key binding, people, catch up with the times...

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 7,584
    edited November 30
    Yes.

    I used to not care, but now I see too many positives.

    • DCers will soon either have to wait out the minute or accept DC punishment
    • No more complaints about hands hurting or equipment breaking
    • No cheap Hatch escape for the last one by suiciding unless they accept the DC punishment

    I think this beats their one argument of "We don't want people just checking their phone or anything while hanging, we want them to have to do something."

    Heck, just watch some Survivor streamers while in phase 2, good chance they'll check the chat.

  • Walker_of_the_fog_96Walker_of_the_fog_96 Member Posts: 589
    Yes.

    my x button would thank me hehe

  • ElkElk Member, Trusted Posts: 1,270
    Yes.

    Just holding a button/key would be better, if you don't want to live. Let go.

  • SHOOTERRALPHBOYSHOOTERRALPHBOY Member Posts: 15
    No.

    Not automated simply because its a struggle mechanic however lag is a problem with how it stands right now so perhaps rather than having to spam the button you hold the button for a few seconds and release when a promt is given this way there's less chance of lag cancelling your struggle and still makes you need to pay constant attention

  • RichtofenRichtofen Member Posts: 72
    Yes.

    Most killers will say no of course for obvious reasons, but I’ve always thought they should change it. Some people with health conditions have difficulty with the current mechanic.

  • manzarimanzari Member Posts: 19
    Yes.

    Yes dear god PLEASE! my keyboard's getting [BAD WORD] because of that.

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