Deep Wounds were never meant to kill. They are just there to have survivors do before doing other objectives. Complaining about Deep Wounds debuff is like complaining about End Game Collapse because you thought it was more fun to bully the killer after all the gens are done.
Take the Ghostface pill. He's mildly okay.
They are a 12 second stall. That is almost nothing especially when the Legion goes off to find someone else.
okay. How would you feel if as killer if a survivor stuns you with a pallet you have to sit there and hold m1 for 20+ seconds. Killer mains just don't understand that the game is boring enough for survivors already (hence the need to be toxic or even bully killers). What everyone needs to understand is that the asymmetrical aspect of this game needs to be acknowledged at all times. While it might be "balanced" if survivors had to sit on a gen for 2+ mins to finish it, it wouldn't be enjoyable. This is a video game that people play for fun, like with most video games. Loading screens are long enough. Survivor games should not have 10+ mins of loading screens embedded in them. I like their approach to the new killer, rewarding fast-paced gameplay and taking risks. I feel like this is what they wanted to try with Legion and although they messed up badly, it's not the fault of a game mechanic but rather how Legion's design is in direct counter with what the game was designed to play as. You make a good point and I like your creativity
Who thought a survivor can stop bleeding if they run? Change the name to Survive by Daylight
I'm taking a break from this game, this has gotten me so depressed I can't even have fun playing Survivor or even the new Killer. I don't have faith in the devs, they give us cookie cutter responses and those responses just show they aren't listening. If they were listening then they would know that we feel they aren't paying attention and that their design choices are flawed, so flawed it is obvious someone on the team shouldn't be working in this field.
We have complained for almost a year that the 4 second stun is too long and that was not even considered to be a change.
We have complained for almost a year that the Pin add-ons need to be on hit and they give us this mess we didn't ask for.
They aren't listening and I'm done playing until they fix their [BAD WORD]. When Legion gets fixed I'll be back, not even a new chapter will bring me back because they always do something stupid with the perks and nerf them to being useless; Cruel Confinement for example.
I'll probably stalk the forums though because there are cool people on here that I enjoy conversing with :) Until I get banned for something stupid.
I am so sad to see this @UlvenDagoth but I completely understand and you have my utter support and respect.
Thank you so much for fighting for so long adding to the countless amazing ideas for legions changes. I truly hope you find a passion to continue your work but I understand the step back.
I just wanted to give you some support my stabby friend take some boops and I hope you find happiness soon my friend. Much respect!
Thank you for testing this for me.
I know right? They don't care.
I tried to point that out to them too.
That's funny, cause it doesnt even stop them from doing anything else now. Also, no, complaining about this and EGC are no where near the same thing.
You lost all credibility as soon as you said there was a "need" to be Toxic or bully Killers. There is NEVER A NEED TO BULLY ANYONE!
forgot to put quotes around need. Anything else you want to nitpick bud?
It defies all logic and sense.
Nope, cause you won't listen anyway.
Let me get this straight...you call me out for stereotyping but then go on to stereotype me as the type of person who won't listen to you. FYI, I'll listen to anyone as long as they have something insightful to say.
This is exactly how I feel about it. I've lost all faith in BHVR. Till they do something to bring that back, i'm not giving them a single cent.
Thank you so much. This means alot to me, prolly more than you would expect. I just can't right now. I really hope I can get up the give a darn to keep yelling at them to change Legion, but when it feels like they don't ever listen, why bother?
Okay cool. Then let's try and see if we can both get around this.
The Deep wound change made any and all stalling for Legion basically useless. They can run across map with no issue, work on a gen for a moment, then mend. Or they can just instantly start mending after being hit and even if the Legion stops and eats that stun, they can just run away with no penalty while Legion looks at there hands for 4 seconds. It would have been better to NOT lower mending times if this change was gonna be made, or revert the changes at least but no. We both have 8-12 seconds of "Stall" with RUNNING pausing the timer. Add to that Legion can't see Scratch Marks in FF or even blood, loses 50% of there power on a m1 hit, and lost all of there perks synergies with Feral Frenzy (Which removed EVEN MORE "STALL") and you have a Kilelr who's power is literally more punishing to use then not use.
Oh I see. I thought you meant the recent change flipped Legion on their head but now I see that it was more like the final nail in the coffin in a long series of unnecessary legion nerfs. I see why you would give up at this point, Legion has officially been put into the ground by the devs.
Exactly. Burned, buried, desecrated and forgotten.
Never be happy with something cause "It's better than nothing" or "At least it's something". This Video was a good example of that.
It's like the killer wants the survivor to get away, pairing a missed hit with 4 seconds of blindness, and no track marks. The stun is honestly the worst part for me (though the lack of sloppy butcher is a close second).
Exactly. They have enough going against them that there power is literally a punishment to use.
Yep, welcome to the killer with no power.
It drives me crazy that anyone can see this as a buff.
Me too, so many people say it lets you get more hits, and I have not seen this to be true. I haven't been playing because it bummed me out too much, but I've rarely seen two hits with the new speed boost let alone 3 or 4.
What's the point of getting more hits? You still have to M1 chase them down. You don't even get any stall any more.
Yeah, cause they don't need to heal because your power is non lethal, so why bother with it?
Yep. Just Run over to the other side of the map, get an unhook there if you want, mend, get on a gen. Who cares? oh, and if they come after you in non FF? Just loop them. There power won't help at all.
He deserves a rework. A full rework at this point. Tbh, I don’t know why the doctor gets changes to make him stronger (more annoying) when he’s already strong in the hands of good players but the killers who are weaker than him get gutted..?
Priorities have been a bit out of wack lately.
I can understand where you’re coming from on this one. Sorry you have to go :(