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Okay devs, facecamping is definitely a “legit strategy”



  • ZtarShotZtarShot Member Posts: 838

    Body blocking doesn't restrict gameplay, facecamping does.

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274

    it’s not whining, it’s pure frustration because i was punished for nothing.

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274
    edited December 2019

    @ZtarShot exactly. facecamping ensures the game is ruined, especially early on. body blocking however does not.

  • ZoldyarZoldyar Member Posts: 438

    There are perks to actually counter body blocks. When it comes to face camping, the devs made it clear that killers are capable of doing so and that there is nothing a surivior can do against it. Take leatherface as an example.

  • UnicornUnicorn Member Posts: 2,308
    edited December 2019

    I appreciate that you apologized a lot of people dont 💜. All I'm saying is that your post was very informative and the first part of it was unnecessary. You gave a good perspective from a Killers point of view, but with introductions like that you will only get negative responses.

    Edit: @AvisDeene (forgot to tag you)

  • Bustanut_ChampionBustanut_Champion Member Posts: 53

    Camping at five gens does nothing but kneecap the killer. Yeah they'll get one kill, but if he doesn't move the entire time the other three can pop four gens if they just work on them the whole time. The desired average is two kills per game, and as much as it sucks for one survivor, they can ######### the killer even harder by just sitting on the hook and tapping space so the other three survivors get out. It's a strategy that just loses the killer the game if people aren't pointlessly altruistic. Sometimes you just gotta take one for the team to secure the overall win.

  • Bustanut_ChampionBustanut_Champion Member Posts: 53

    I can guarantee it's just as boring and sad for the killer if nobody comes to unhook. The only time I do it is if i get absolutely ######### on and there's only one or no gens left, and several times it's led to me getting a four-man because survivors wouldn't let their friend die on the hook. If you play around it and don't go for the save, they'll do it less because it just won't work. Giving free hits, trading for the hook, getting downed by bubba when you try to unhook, etc, encourages the horrible strategy. If it works it works, but if it doesn't, it won't happen nearly as much. Some mouthbreathers will still do it just to get one person and no more, but that's just pathetic and they're walking away with a loss just like that one survivor.

  • MonikaMonika Member Posts: 113

    Well...for your two minutes of ruined time being face camped I think the survs who hide out for the entire 2 minute endgame timer then run out last second should also.

    But we're not gonna do that. Are we.

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274

    yes. with ruin, thanat, and good location of hooking, it’s a guaranteed win for the killer.

  • Bustanut_ChampionBustanut_Champion Member Posts: 53

    I disagree and think it's more a mentality to believe it's a guaranteed win, but if you see it at that much of an extreme no amount of discussion would change your view. Ruin and thanat are truly minor slowdowns, the latter especially. Thanat is pretty negligible especially if you don't give the killer free hits. Agree to disagree, but you can just work around it and lose one survivor if you play better than someone who is bad enough to face camp at five gens.

  • CymerCymer Member Posts: 942

    There is nothing unethical to try to win within the games boundaries.

    Does it suck for the survivor? Yes.

    Does it have counterplay? Plenty.

    5 gens up means, the survivor was found first and downed really fast. So he should pay more attention (Spine Chill?) or get better during Chases.

    I would seek the blame with my other teammates. If I looped the killer, got downed and hooked and none of them got a single gen done...that's not good.

    If they do whatever, don't push gens to lure the killer, swarm the hook for an entire minute and go for unsafe unhooks without BT, they are really to blame.

    The killer in OPs story did read the state of the game well and played accordingly. He baited the hook and let the overaltruistic team play themselves. I would call that smart.

    You are not entitled to a save unhook.

    We are provided with plenty of options to increase the odds.

    About the challenge, there are some challenges, that requires to sacrifice a certain number of survivors.

    If that survivor happen to be the last sacrifice that killer needed, he just made sure to 100% get the challenge done.

    Stop blaming the killer and start asking yourself, what options and tools are provided. What can you actively do to increase your fun and success in DBD.

    Crying in the forum for a ban or nerf for camping is just immature, silly and ultimately pointless.

    Does it suck? Yes, a lot actually. But it's 2 min tops. If you can't hold it for 2 min, you got other problems.

    If you still struggle to understand why camping is in the game, try killer for a change and you will learn a lot about the game.

    I wish you still the best of fun in the fog!

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274

    there isn’t counterplay in all cases, such as what @Desolate_Sands said. with ruin and thanatophobia, a good hook location and facecamping, a killer is guaranteed to win. he just needs to get 1 survivor out of the way and hook near several gens, and it’s 100% the killer wins. facecamping also makes BT useless since the killer can grab you off hook.

  • Thesaviour119Thesaviour119 Member Posts: 54

    If someone is going to camp, ok fair enough, but why complain then about being body blocked?

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274
  • CymerCymer Member Posts: 942
    edited December 2019

    It funny how you ignore that no one did any gens.

    You can go up to the hook, let the killer hit you, and during his animation lock you can unhook someone. You even can bait the hit by faking the unhook.

    A coordinated team even can blind the killer and then unhook.

    You either don't know these options or are ignoring them.

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274
    edited December 2019

    again, these options don’t always work. if it did work, the killer is probably a potato anyways. why would someone swap out their place with you on hook? regardless, it doesn’t help at all.

    with the gens, if the killer hooks in close proximity to 3 gens, those gens don’t get done and one person is already dead because of camping. easy 4k if done right, but extremely unfair method.

  • CymerCymer Member Posts: 942

    May I ask you, what Perks did you run and how did the killer managed to down you before any gens are getting done?

  • Undeadbear13Undeadbear13 Member Posts: 32

    Funny enough body blocking survivors as wraith is the best way for him to get a hit.

  • AvisDeeneAvisDeene Member Posts: 2,396

    It was whining because you posted nothing constructive. You just demanded the devs to fix the game without giving any ideas for them to do so. It was basically just a rant. Go reread the post and you’ll see it was.

    Ultimately, it was the fault of your teammates that they came and unhooked you while the killer was obviously camping you. They should have pressured him by gen rushing. I sometimes camp because whispers is telling me someone is near by (I’m also a potato killer)and the survivor almost always takes the bait. But then, when I attempt it on competent survivors, they’ll pop two gens and cause me to leave the camp strategy. Though, I like to be nice and let the freshly unhooked get away and go for the idiot that did the unhooking while I’m within view. Unless the one on the hook is a t-bagging flashlight clicker. Then I’ll throw the game because they’re so annoying and I want them to die or watch me twerk if I’m playing GhostFace<_<.

    You shouldn’t look at it as if you were punished. You were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  • StrodeWinsStrodeWins Member Posts: 274
    edited December 2019

    it was a plague. i was NOT running decisive (stupid on my part, but i usually run it to prevent this, as i don’t have it on Yui yet), but i WAS running iron will, BT, dead hard, and breakout.

    no gens got done because she had ruin and thanatophobia, and the sacrifice process goes fast compared to gen progress with these two perks (@AvisDeene)

    the perks i was running has nothing to do with it though. nothing justifies being camped so early on. whatsoever. yes, i should have had decisive, but wanted to play Yui for breakout.

  • Bustanut_ChampionBustanut_Champion Member Posts: 53

    "These options don't always work" is true to anything. If someone just plays better than you then you need to figure out what isn't working and try alternative methods rather than throwing yourself at the problem the same way time and time again to just walk away with a "well this is just overpowered" mentality. People who see ruin, thanataphobia, campers, three gen, etc, often suffer from a defeatist mentality of "there's nothing I can do about this" instead of an actual experienced and good player's "what can I do against this?" There's a lot of possibilities, especially with a SWF. You can avoid being 3 genned when someone cramps easily, even if they are camping someone they'll have to choose between pressuring the nearby gen or watching the person on the hook. If you can't unhook and get away while the killer is briefly away pressuring a generator, it's your and your team's problem. One person likely will end up dying from being camped on hook, but if you keep playing around the camping killer's two possible actions, it's nearly impossible for more than one survivor to die.

  • LushyBunnyLushyBunny Member Posts: 76

    Actually not really. BT is bs for the fact that your terror radius could be 1 meter to close and you hit the hooked survivor off of chance of them running to you, DS is not fair in most situations, and honestly should just be reworked like Moris, ruin, and a few others, and yes most maps have a god loop and every map (with the exception of badham and hawkins) have multiple save loops often close together. I will give you the ruin, yeah, some games it may seem like 5 seconds but it was less then a minute or 2. And yeah, I do go for one survivor to hard, but sometimes you have no choice. Like Ots's video from a week or two ago. He found one survivor, chased them normally and 3 gens were done, then upon hooking them and beginning to look for the fourth, the fourth gen was finished. Even if you're fast with a chase, on average if they can run a loop it'll last about a minute, if not longer.

  • HeHeBoiiHeHeBoii Member Posts: 507
    edited December 2019

    I don’t see why camping or face camping isn’t a strategy. Surely it’s annoying and all that jazz. However, it’s the killers objective to get kills, same thing with gen rushing for survivors. Both not fun for both ends of the spectrum.

  • TalmeerTalmeer Member Posts: 1,520

    Far as I know, many survivors "communicate" that they are getting face camped, or that the killer patrols nearby via their "body language".

    What I mean is, they attempt to struggle with the entity but they not really go so far that it would count as a struggle attempt. And that they make over and over again.

    Have seen it multiple times as survivors and also a few times as killer when I was near by the hooked one, because I was on my way to damage a nearby generator and so on.

    So, next time you are in this situation, try to do the same. I assume, not every survivor knows this part of "survivor-communication" and some survivors will also not care, because they will unhook you at all costs, but imo many survivors understand what it means if a survivor struggles in the described way on a hook.

  • CymerCymer Member Posts: 942

    Ruin isn't that big of a deal if you can hit greats and with a camping killer that totem should be found really fast. As long as she didn't hooked you in the basement with Monstrous Shrine, you have 2 min on the hook, if you struggle. That's plenty of time to get the ruin, get you off the hook and do some gens.

    You know, you can earn BP and level a character without playing them if you want the teachable perks?

    It's faster and easier to farm BP on your main, killer or survivor, and pump the BP into Yui.

    You usually play your favorite survivor skin or your set of killers. Killers are amazing at BP farming, especially with BBQ and take a killer that can max the categories really fast. It doesn't even matter if you get the 4k or not.

    Give it a try and have fun in the fog!

  • Bustanut_ChampionBustanut_Champion Member Posts: 53

    In a nutshell:

    Hahahahahahahaha How The ######### Is Camping 4k Real Hahahaha Bro Just Walk Away From The Hook Like Bro Close Your Eyes Haha

  • KingMyersKingMyers Member Posts: 57

    Yeah guess killers shouldn't have cried about old brand new part should have just let it stay where you press it and it insta fixed the gen or insta heal needles or old flashlight and pallets "just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it's wrong" seriously stfu if you're gonna be one sided and act cool when clearly you're a super butt hurt baby. Either contribute with a non biased point of view and explain yourself like an adult or stay quiet kid, as for face camping yes they are trying to mitigate it but in all the wrong ways, just gotta hold out and see what happens I spose

  • TuckzysGayMengTuckzysGayMeng Member Posts: 72

    Then it just wasn’t meant to be my friend. Set it free!

  • TuckzysGayMengTuckzysGayMeng Member Posts: 72

    It’s already being punished. The closer you are to the hooked survivor. The less bloodpoints you get.

  • HamdaNHamdaN Member Posts: 343

    he started it. this isnt elementary school im not gonna debate how instigating works if you have 0 perception of it

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