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So since Dev's have decided slowing the game down is bad...

When are we going to see Gen speeds, and tool box speeds looked at?
Base Repairtime should be increased period.
Toolbox add-ons that increase base speed need to be tweaked, tuned down.
Why is it bad and unhealthy for the Killer to slow the game down, but perfectly fine for survivors to rush through the game like a meth addled track star?
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How dare you not support the gen rushing SWF shame on you jk but i get it man but you will get attacked by the gen rushing clown show so get ready.
Because survivors are more and if they don't find the game fun, BHVR will lose money
I like how people complain about the person that gen rush, like what do you expect people to do? just stand still in the corner of the map? It's literallythe only objective in the game.
You're missing the entire point.
No one is saying they shouldn't do gens as fast as possible. They are saying the gens shouldn't be ABLE to be done as fast as they currently are. Those are 2 very different things.
"you will get attacked by the gen rushing clown show so get ready." ?
As in the people who think gens should go as fast as they currently do.
This is the problem. Why would I do dull totems if I can just do gens and get out? Why search chests when I have better items in the Bloodweb? Survivors need a second objective so they have something else to do besides gens.
I know im sorry freddy is not making things fun for surv mains :( i will make sure to show you all my totems and hold your hand and escort you to the exit gates to make sure you have a fun gaming experience
Without Killers there is no game, just wait till the game gets so bad that all the killers switch to survivor and the queue times for survivor Triple then only will BHVR realise they ######### up.
Meh nothing new man the talk about who was next on the nerf list was clear but i promise you people will still complain about freddy that i promise you. i dont even use slow down freddy and people still DC on me for any reason they can find so ......
Well it’s not fun for survivors. Simply don’t care if you are having a good time as a killer. Survivors having fun are a priority. Even if it means u just got stomped on by SWF on voice coms. So SHAME ON U IF U WANT TO HAVE FUN AS A KILLER. Your totum will continue to spawn in the open, and or by a gen.
no one said you couldnt slow game down, you're complaining about the people that just do gens instead of going around doing nothing just to spend some more quality time with the killer
Tool box addons need looked at, toolboxes are too strong especially with some addons.
Personally I dont think the best tool box should remove more than 15s and the addons should be more about keeping the toolbox for longer periods and having easier skill checks to help with the likes of Ruin. it should be something to give you a little but they do give way too much atm.
If you increase gen times it's an automatic win for every killer that decides to facecamp first hook. The devs know that so they can't straight up increase gen times unless they come up with a smart solution to nerf camping in return.
Would you play the game as survivor if you knew the killer can win 100% if they camp first hook? I doubt it.
I wouldn't mind 90 second gens. That's what I thought it already was. 80 seconds is definitely too fast.
Ngl, I don't really think anyone likes doing nothing other than holding a button and pressing another occasionally for 80 seconds straight. Freddy with slowdown add-ons and dying light could make a gen take over 100 seconds to complete. Does that sound fun to you? Because it won't to the majority of players. I agree that gens can go too fast sometimes but making them take longer by default is a bad approach to take.
Seriously, what the hell is going on here?
It’s simple. In every match you have five people. That’s five potential buyers of skins, rift passes, DLC, etc. One side has four potential customers. One side has only one. Why would they cater anything for the side with one customer? The meta will forever be SWF focused.
Yes this is why they buffed Freddy and introduced Demogorgon. Catering to those survivor mains as always.
True but devs won't settle for adding another survivor objective.
Because of NOED and Points? I play Survivor too and always doing dull totems(red ranks btw) Seriously if Survivor are only doing Gen's then they shouldn't cry about NOED.
BtT: I agree. Gen's shouldn't go that fast. It is a joke how fast they are. Should I double myself to hunt AND protecting Gen's?!
Red rank as survivor is nothing. You're obviously pretending so you can get people on your side. It's sad that this is what the forum has come to.
It is sad that people try to build a mind about others and doesn't understand what they're meaning.
I mean with "red rank btw" that I am experienced because to counter those who will say "You're green rank obviously" or something like that.
Gen time being increased I don't think will fix this problem, nor nerfing toolboxes. Increasing gen speed is only gonna make it easier for Killers to camp. What Survivors need is a second objective. Dull totems are not enough, also I feel like until people can actually come up with potential ideas to pitch that will fix these problems your complaining just looks like whining. Be productive in your arguments and complaints.
People on the forums always come with this complaint and even say things like "killers quitting playing killer is going to be bad for the game!" Wrong. Four people have to pick survivor for every one person who picks killer in order for matchmaking to go quickly. If anything BHVR should look at removing things that are frustrating for survivors, like being camped or tunneled. The survivors are the life blood of the game, not the killers.
I don't know why people think survivors want to sit and hold m1 for even LONGER in order to finish a game. If anything gens should go faster since they are the most boring objective of all. The survivors should be rewarded more for interacting with the killer, since that's the most interesting part of the game for everyone.
PS4 has already seen a HUGE dip in Killers in the passed few months.Its takes ages to get into a game as survivor but your lobby fills instantly as a Killer.
But I guess this is fine. :|
People can complain if they want, with our without a comprehensive argument to back it up. Complaining is often what leads to change, not accepting things as they are is an important step to growth and improvement.
Increase how long survivors last on hook at the same time. Problem solved
I've never said anybody has to accept anything as it is, I don't know why you're telling me this. Making suggestions and sprouting ideas is growth and improvement. If you have an issue with me giving advice to people that just complain and get upset without giving constructive brainstorming then I don't know what to tell you. My advice is far from toxic and very healthy in all aspects, in or out of the game. Sorry, not sorry.
Increasing the gen time is not really the answer
I feel there should be something more at the end game
Something between the gens getting powered and opening the exit gates