Some data on Legion's performance since the Oni update
Hi!
We've got enough data since the Oni release to make some comments on Legion's performance after the speed update.
For all platforms, all maps and all ranks, from Nov 2 2019 to Dec 2 2019, the Legion's average killrate was 61.99%, ranking him 12/17 in killrate. For reference, Nurse is at the bottom with 43.9% and The Nightmare is at the top with 70.83%.
In the same period but just looking at ranks 1-4, Legion is ranked 13/17 for kill rate. It's still Nurse at the bottom and Nightmare at the top.
If I switch to all platforms, all maps and all ranks from Dec 3 to Dec 19 (The Oni released on Dec 3), Legion's killrate is 62.5%, but that ranks them at 10/18 for killrate.
Just looking at ranks 1-4, the killrate is 71.2%, ranked at 12/18.
These are not massive changes, but they are noticable in a statistical sense given the sample size in terms of number of games played. We can conclude that the Deep Wound change (running stops the timer instead of TR) combined with the speed change (restored vault speeds and 5.0 m/s -> 5.2 m/s Frenzy run speed) were a net buff to Legion, both in terms of raw kill efficiency and in relation to the other Killers.
EDIT: Typo. It's out of 17 Killers the first month, then out of 18 after the Oni release. Apologies.
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sigh I'm really hoping the cooldown gets looked at its the number 1 thing that kills legion for me
Rip nurse
I thought the data would show something like that. They are still not that good, but a bit better than before.
Can we have the same data update for Oni, Spirit and Nurse please? They all got changed aswell recently and some data would be quite interesting :)
sad to see nurse went from highest kill rate killer to lowest kill rate killer , no plans for her changes??
I typically do ok with Legion at red ranks. You have to be really solid in the fundamentals though because Legion has very little to help with actually downing people. But they give decent stall and very good map awareness due to killer instinct in Feral Frenzy.
Can even be balanced for you. But is very boring to play against and as in terms of efficency and map control
Good to see Legion’s in a better place than we thought.
...what about Nurse though? Her rework was out in November, surely there’s enough stats to show if she was impacted as severely as many Nurse players have said. Specifically I’m extremely interested in her pick rate before and after rework...if I’m not wrong, I’m expecting her pick rate to have dropped significantly.
Pretty sure she was always at the bottom, given that these statistics are for all platforms, including console.
Of course they're good
still she is the most unfun killer to play as
Not the point I was making.
Stop misleading people. Your obsession with insisting Legion is good is just defying logic at this point. The stats say they are 10/16. That is in the bottom 50%. That isn't good.
I also think this is inflated from the rank reset.
Rank 1-4... you would imagine not a lot of console players would pick her at that rank unless they were good. I don't even remember that last time I saw her... :p
This doesn't excuse the fact there still bad
Return the nurse. The adjustment was a failure.
Would I imagine that? That seems like an assumption to me. :P
Without other numbers we can't really come to the conclusion you provide us with: that it was a net buff.
Taking a month and comparing it to half a year of data and saying they are completely comparable is questionable, at best.
Not only that but you didn't provide the "popularity" numbers. So you gave us half the stats, but state that it is enough to conclude it was a net buff? I'm not so sure about that.
Maybe I'm too cynical. 🤷
I wasn't saying you in particular...just more of a common sense type of deal.
I hope this doesn't mean that the Legion will never get buffed. We can't base everything from the stats, right?
Is it common sense, though? Again, assumption.
I don't like to be the guy that is like "The data is wrong" but I think it is possible that when you only had a month maybe less of data that it isn't able to come to an actual conclusion if Legion was buffed.
Imo, it is not only the question of viability that matters, it is also the question if something makes sense and if it "feels good".
If I think on frenzy in movies - it supports often the picture of a "unstoppable force".
You see this "effect" by many hero, or villan characters, before they going rampage.
And I would like to have the same picture again by the Legion.
While frenzy itself deals no damage is it itself just a very fundamental ability to feel "unstoppable" as the guys from the movies and as such, some of the restrictions on it need to go.
Frenzy need not just be fast, frenzy need also to give the player the feeling that he is "free" and if we look at the moment at frenzy, you don't feel free.
There are still some restrictions on frenzy that should be go. Imo, that would also not cause real balance issuses. Sure, the Legion would be a bit stronger with more changes by the frenzy ability, but after all - frenzy is a non-damage-dealing-abilitiy.
So the impact of taking more frenzy penaltys away would be little for survivors, while it in return would rise the fun for Legion players on a big level, imo.
That is just my opinion to it.
But thanks for the information @Almo . Personally I hope for 1-2 more small Legion patches that contain at least this.
I think it is...I could be wrong.🤷♂️
3k is required. To maintain the red rank. Not a buff. Inevitably.
Comparing one month of data to 3 months of data is not a good comparison.
Huh?
The last stats they used where 3 months of data. This one is only one month of data. It is not equal, therefore it is not truly comparative.
Being worse than other killers doesnt make them bad,lol.
But go on, keep crying, I'll keep playin Legion because ,you know, I actually know how to play them.
Ow nurse how the mighty have fallen
These stats say he's in the bottom half of killers so maybe a slight buff? :3