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Killers!! It's time to voice for our RIGHTS!!!

Since last year, there is an improvement in Nightmare BUT...

Legion - Nerf

Nurse - Nerf

Oni - OK, the smooth control during the dash was NOT intended in the test environment

Doctor - Nerf!!!

And even the perk, Ruin, one of the important perk to slow down gen rush.... NERF!!!

I read the NERF topic and the underlying ground for NERF of the Ruin is something like it is NO GOOD to NEW SURVIVORS! Seriously!? Would there be MANY NEW SURVIVORS when the game is 3-year-old? I wouldn't say there is nil but it shouldn't be many, right?

This action is seriously hurting the population of the killers, and discouraging player to play as killer. It would have negative effect to the game, you want the survivor to wait for a game for even longer period of time?

KILLERS!! Please voice your opinion!!!!

DEV!!! Please listen to us this time!!!


  • ryanrobotryanrobot Member Posts: 21

    Sadly killers have to fight SO much harder on forums like this to get their voices heard. Even if they listen to us and give us a few buffs, they'll give us twice as many nerfs. They don't need to just listen to us once, they need to understand that their whole plan is currently survivor-sided and they need to start making consistent and long-term changes to hear killers more.

  • ProfessorDunwichProfessorDunwich Member Posts: 787

    I think enough people will stop playing killer that the devs will be forced to listen. The question is, will it be too late?

  • Divinitye9Divinitye9 Member Posts: 392

    I hate this. I really hate that you said it. Sadly... because you're correct.

  • SairekSairek Member Posts: 4,626
    edited January 7

    There's no need to start up a riot.

    I'd suggest trying the changes on the PTB before making the ultimate decision if the ruin/doctor changes are bad or not, but regardless, if you don't like them or think BHVR isn't listening, then don't play the game and don't pay with your wallet.

    That will speak more volumes than any ranting, feedback, outcry or rioting will ever do. They will be more pressured to finally fix the problems killers have if they see killers are no longer playing the game due to said problems.

  • PennosukePennosuke Member Posts: 82

    Looks like you forgot about DS nerf, MoM nerf, Insta heal nerf, Stealth killers buff.

  • OutlandOutland Member Posts: 535

    You are 100% right, if you actually read the legal document you checked I Agree on. You don't actually OWN the copy of the game. You have paid for the right to access and play their game.

    But that being said, If BHVR expects to keep making money from their baby, then at some point they have to start listening to the voices of the killer population, because they are skating a very fine line right now. More and more Killers are becoming so discouraged with the game they are either switching roles, or just switching games.

    And when one side or the other just stops playing its bad news for everyone.

    I'd argue losing a Killer is worse then losing a survivor because of the math involved.

    1 Killer gone makes 4 or 5 more survivors now waiting for fewer Killer lobbies. 4 if the Killer just quits the game and 5 if he switches sides and becomes a survivor.

    Where as if one survivor quits, well they are currently a dime a dozen. And their spot is usually filled in , in seconds.

  • Mister_HoldoutMister_Holdout Member Posts: 2,312
  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    yeah no. we saw what they did to nurse. the devs have no idea what they're doing. have you seen legion???

  • TragicSolitudeTragicSolitude Member Posts: 2,208
    edited January 7

    God, if I could get back the stupid amount of money I put into this game and all its DLC... The sad thing is that yeah, buying an online game the customer has no rights and no guarantees. Doesn't matter if the player spends $5 or $500. It's the exact reason I usually don't put money into online games, and DbD has only reinforced that.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 1,030

    Ds nerf was necessary

    MOM was OP before the nerf. if you dont believe so then you're severely bias.

    Instaheals were unhealthy just like moris. right now they are balanced.

    stealth killer "buff" was a needed thing, playing wraith and going against a object of obsession user was a GG on you.

  • ShrekIsHotShrekIsHot Member Posts: 3,130

    You tell me to voice my opinion like it’ll matter or change anything lol.

  • JoekilluJoekillu Member Posts: 164

    They are going to change it no matter if both sides have a negative comment about it. That's their level of ego. What I've seen in the past few years is they believe that we need them. They seem to not get we dont. There's tons of games out there...they will just keep pissing us all off ( both sides)till the game dies.

  • PriskaPriska Member Posts: 3

    This . . . They focus on the experience of the new survivor but not on the experience of the new killer.

  • SairekSairek Member Posts: 4,626

    Yes, I also saw how long it took them to effectively remove MoM, despite the fact there was massive outcry about the perk before it even got into the PTB when it was leaked -- let alone when it actually was on the PTB and even more when it actually hit live servers and it still took them a while to gut the perk after indirectly buffing it.

    The bottom line is that companies do whatever they do to make money. That's the bottom line. So doing something to impact that bottom line, like no longer playing and supporting the game due to bad decisions, is the best way to get a company to take responsibility and listen.

    That aside, if you don't enjoy the game anymore, then it is in your best interest mentally to not play it anyway. A video game is not worth stressing out and getting angry about.

    BHVR will either start to listen due to the bleeding of players, or not and pay the price for it. The game is their responsibility; do not make it yours.

  • Herman_CMHHerman_CMH Member Posts: 181

    Killers: We want our human rights!!!!

    Opps, sorry Demo......

  • SylorknagSylorknag Member Posts: 410

    The justifications they gave for nerfing doc and ruin are so [BAD WORD] is beyond believe.

    "New players get in the way of veterans because they can't hit skillchecks"...


    "Rank 15 can't hit snap out of it....."

    Have you ever heard of LEARNING SOMETHING?

    THESE are the worst devs I've ever seen in a video game. Jesus.

  • Chaotic_RiddleChaotic_Riddle Member Posts: 1,861

    Buff Legion.


  • MrsGhostfaceMrsGhostface Member Posts: 350

    Killers have been leaving and it’ll just get worst. Survivors will have even longer wait times, killers will find lobbies and will be going against survivors that aren’t even their rank. Right now I find lobbies instantly as killer, but the catch is I’m green rank going against purple-red ranks. I never see a green rank. As survivor I wait 10 minutes on average for a game. They better start giving killers positive attention or their game will die.

  • BastardKingBastardKing Member Posts: 208

    Lets also not forget that almost anything that gets 'nerfed' gets a compensatory buff. Balanced Landing doesn't give the reduction while exhausted, but you don't make the noise! Syptic Agent isn't a free instant heal, but now it is a mini borrowed time!

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