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This is pathetic. Quit complaining.
Widowmaker8197
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This is coming from a survivor struggling to stay in rank 1. Stop it. The new ruin changes are needed. Almost every game I play the killer gets 2 or more kills. But no, the killer mains are gonna complain because the devs are starting to realize the game shouldn't be balanced around the killer getting 4 kills every single game. It should be balanced around 2 kills/escaping half your games.
Gen rushing doesn't exist. The survivors are supposed to want to get the gens done as fast as possible it's our OBJECTIVE ffs. The gens already regress pretty fast if they've been kicked but with the new ruin they're going to regress automatically as if they have been kicked. It's like all generators are automatically kicked with the new ruin. Oh, and I haven't even mentioned what it's going to be like if the killer kicks the gens and ruin is up? It probably will regress as fast as one survivor's base repair speed.
TL;DR: We haven't experienced the new ruin in game yet so we shouldn't be complaining right now. Also, gen rushing doesn't exist. Survivors are supposed to want to get the gens done as fast as possible.
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Not to be rude but with the way pip system is right now "struggling to stay in rank 1" translates to "belongs in rank 8". Also Gen rushing is a term typically used to complain about how quickly the gens are allowed to be done and not usually used to complain about survivor actions. It's also a term you're going to be hearing tossed around way more often.
Except the devs said the change is to help survivors hit skill checks. So who really needs to git good?
Agreed.
Agreed.
Semi agreed
If we can't slow the game down, we'll just resort using the same 3 killers over and over, or just resort to slugging and tunneling.
You try hitting greats on console.
As a killer main who uses Dying Light over Ruin... the problem isn't the Ruin nerf, but how the change avoids and ignores the reason so many players were using the perk.
Gen speeds or the ease of Survivor objectives.
The change wouldn't be such a big deal if they also said oh and also survivors have an added objective to ease the speed of matches.
Wrong!
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Now, Chocolate Syrup + Whipped Cream+ Belgian Waffles= Perfection
I played on switch so I think k have a good idea. Try again
The problem with that is poor developer performance. If the Devs have done their jobs properly, most of the bugs wouldn't exist and the game would be much better optimized for all platforms. You don't even need to hit great skill checks for ruin, you progress okay if you hit good skill checks as long as you stop working on the gen for 1-2 seconds.
Only if you share, I'll bring the Caramel Lattes
No u.
If you're struggling to stay at Rank 1, then you shouldn't be in red ranks. First time playing survivor I got there in 2 day's - after being a killer main for 2 months prior. Where I actually had to research, practice and get better at Killer to even make it to Red Ranks. As Survivor I just copied what I've seen most of the survivors play in Red Ranks, and then safe looped to victory.
Survivor is a lot less stressful, and needs less skill to play, just learn how to loop (which is easy), and abuse safe pallets - forcing the killer to break them. Then you get 4 perks that literally ignores 4 of your mistakes off cool down. If the killer stops chasing you, jump immediately on a gen. If all 4 survivors work on gens - 2 surv per gen for 1 minute and 20 seconds combined the gates are powered.
If your doing anything less than that in red ranks as Survivor, then you shouldn't be there and are only there because it's so easy to get points and rank as survivor.
I can hit Ruin skill checks all night. I can nearly hit greats. Honestly thought I don't think Ruin needs to be changed. At the very least it should be changed to be a perk instead of a hex.
No killer wants to 4K every single game. Killers want to not have three gens pop within the first three minutes of the game because they've wound up on Rotten Fields as the Clown. Pre-nerf Ruin gives certain killers a chance because some maps are way too large and survivor-favored, and many killers have no mobility in their base kits to traverse these large maps.
You're screaming, "We're SUPPOSED to do gens! It's our OBJECTIVE!" What do you think the objective of the killer is? 🤔🤔🤔 Imagine if the killer could just kill-rush the survivors within the first 5 minutes of the game every single game with barely any mitigation. That's what it's like if certain killers don't run Ruin against high-rank survivors; gens pop like crazy before any serious pressure is exerted, unless, of course, you're playing a killer that already has high base mobility in their kits, like Nurse or Billy or Spirit.
Every survivor who cries that "gen rush doesn't exist" don't realize that, gone unmitigated, games can finish in literal minutes if survivors bumrush gens, have toolboxes, and a killer doesn't have Ruin. Is that supposed to be fun for both survivors and killers? Holding M1 for three minutes straight on a couple gens, then escaping? Ruin is being nerfed, it's still a Hex and can be destroyed within seconds of the game starting, and nothing is being done to address how fast gens can still be finished.
Remember: Survivors need to have all the ease and fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't complain when you get slugged then
"Almost every game I play the killer gets 2 or more kills. ...balanced around the killer getting 4 kills every single game. It should be balanced around 2 kills/escaping half your games."
Because they need more than two kills to pip/black pip to maintain their ranks. If killers always only get 2 kills, none of them will hit red ranks.
"Gen rushing doesn't exist."
Yes it does. People complaining about gen rushing isn't directed towards survivors, it's toward the unbalanced game design. Eighty seconds per gen sounds like a lot but taking into account several other factors (toolboxes, perks, map size, killer abilities, chase lengths)
And no, gens do not regress faster when kicked compared to the rate of survivors working on said gen. A generator regresses by 0.25 charges per second, taking 320 seconds to fully regress. That's 4 times the amount of time needed for ONE survivor to finish it.
We're all going to keep "complaining", before, during, and after the PTB, until BHVR decides to listen to us and fix the game.
What this post is meant to be: Ruin needed this rework.
What you people are making it into: lol if you are struggling to stay in rank 1 because 1 bad game can take you out of it, then you don't need to be in red ranks.
If people are holding m1 on gens and escaping easily like that then does that not mean there is something wrong with the skill of the killer?
There have been many games for me where the killer kills the team with ease. Just because you don't get quick fast and easy games doesn't mean other killer don't.
Cool! I'll bring unbreakable and tenacity. Don't wanna get tunneled? I'll bring DS. These things have a counter, some of my survivor friends just fail to realize it.
I don't think you understand I don't plan to pick anyone up waste your unbreakable someone else will be down before you pick yourself up I'm not caring about piping at this point
Preach! The changes are perfect. I am absolutely loving all this crying by Killers. It really makes my day. Please keep it up or just quit. 😘🙂
I don't care about piping I'll just down someone else before you unbreakable or you unbreakable oh well I don't plan to hook
you're absolutely right that people should stop the bitching before they see it in game, but see that would be logical and this is a forum for dead by daylight, you can't expect them to act like decent or logical people, because they aren't.
Then maybe the devs should fix the pipping system and make it easier for killers to pip and harder to depip? You killer mains are begging for survivor nerfs when instead you should be begging for the ranking system to get fixed. But no, you guys will always take the easier path: survivor nerfs.
I hope you enjoy the floor because I'm not hooking anyone at this point it takes way too long so I'll just slug you until bleed out
Are you begging for attention or something? I don't get it. But yeah. You do you. Be a trendsetter.
You made this post I'm just saying don't complain if this picks up most games
Honestly just hit skill checks
I feel like the devs don't know what they're doing and they are running out of ideas. I think the company should hire new devs that actually plays the game from both sides of killer and survivors.
K.