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Ghostface is too powerful.


Here is my thoughts on Ghostface that I believe something needs to be done about him. Many other players and I who play this game often agree that Ghostface is a super unfair killer to play against as a survivor. I do understand he is a stealth killer like Pig, Myers, and Wraith but trying to play against him is miserable than all the killers. Mainly because of two reasons. When a survivor looks at Ghostface from a distance and he doesn't notice you, there is a sound that will alert him and that killer will search around the area and since killers are much faster than survivors they will be found and a chase will ensure.

When Ghostface stalking a survivor and the same person is staring him in the face they still get exposure on and it's an instant one shot. They even do this mid chase, they go into stalk mode, look at a character for a second and bam instant kill! This happens so often it's not even funny. Combine this with All Ears, Ruin, and Barbeque and Chilli and it's a shutdown, no win for survivors, no chance, hopefully, you can find a hatch at best.

Please make some changes to Ghostface nerf him, please. Killer Players often run Ghostface instead of other killers. Ghostface is constantly in matches cause he basically can't lose. It's even worse if you run into one who camps and teabags you. I even spoked to a few Ghostface players they even say he's super strong and basically a can not lose killer. This happens all the time on the Playstation 4 console of the game even till this day.

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  • PlaquerPlaquer Member Posts: 178

    Assuming this isn't a bait, Ghostface isn't OP, you just don't know how to play against him, if you know how to win chases as survivor you can outlast the exposed effect and staying vigilant will keep you one step ahead of ghostface, if you really need help, run spine chill, it will give you an early waning to when he is coming and increases your vaulting speed

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9

    You're right about this topic isn't bait. It's my very first time making a post in this forum and I've seen what this forum is like over the months on various topics on killers. Which is normally in the favor of the killer for whatever reason.

    Plaquer, personally when it comes to me I always have on Spine Chill lv 3 at all times in my build. I do use it to get a heads up on the killer and plan my moves in advance to evade. But let me tell you. Ghostface killers on the Playstation 4 Mostly snowball survivors constantly and lets be honest the hit range of killer weapons during lunges is pretty long regardless if they are using daggers or short weapons. From my experience Ghostface will end chases in a 1 shot, they do not hit twice, in fact all of them will stalk midchase and bam 1 shot. So trying to prolong a chase is a no go.

    They will run I'm all Ears, Barbeque and Chilli, Ruin (Everyone runs this) and the fourth one could be whatever sometimes nurse's calling, corrupt intervention or whatever. They are rampant in PS4 console more than any other killer by far. I ran into four different Ghostface matches in a row. Each game was a hatch game except for one, that particular match Ghostface wanted to Teabag a poor Steve in a sailor outfit by using camping and tunneling tactics.

    And if that wasn't bad enough. I discovered that Ghostface can put exposure on multiple survivors at once. And it happened when two survivors went to go make a save on a hook survivor and well a Ghostface was camping nearby. After during the unhooking the two survivors both had that target sign on them. To summarize everyone died and there was only one gen left.

    This killer is frankly too powerful. Which is why I created this topic.

  • AhoyWolfAhoyWolf Member Posts: 894

    Ghost Face is the easiest Killer to loop, he doesn't have any map pressure, he only does have his Night Shroud, which can be really good if Survivors don't pay attention.

    But if they do or you just got the most opened map possible it sucks.

    His reveal mechanic is broken for both sides, I agree, you can just look at him from 8 meters away and he doesn't get revealed, and as a Ghostface they can reveal you through walls sometimes.

    It sucks for both sides, just pay extra attention when playing against Ghostface and you'll be fine.

    Also, I would like to mention that your player model blocks the revealing for some reason.

  • PlaquerPlaquer Member Posts: 178

    Its just practice, you need to work on having good chases, if you can play well, then his exposed effect won't even matter, since he won't hit you in the first place. He can be very frustrating to play against, but a nerf is unnecessary, you just need more experience as a player, work on improving yourself and play around his weaknesses. If something is difficult, practice first, if you're stuck, ask for help, once you have understood how to play around it then make suggestions about changes.

  • SurvJoeSurvJoe Member Posts: 36

    I agree that revealing ghostface is broken bugged and i would also remove indication who revealed you because it's kinda unfair killer gets unearned info

  • thefallenloserthefallenloser Member Posts: 250

    You get to remove the killer's power in less than 2 seconds for like 35 seconds.

    "Unearned info" lol.

    To address the OP, no. Ghostie is nowhere near OP. He's just okay. He's easy to loop when his power's disabled, has no map pressure, and his power is easily disabled. You can disable his power while running away and after that, he's pretty easy to go against, as he has nothing for the next 35 seconds to use against you.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456

    I agree he is awful. He's the only killer that makes me not want to play survivor. I will type up my own arguments in the future but for now I fully support changes to Ghostface. He feels very "cheap". I wouldn't say he's straight up overpowered, he just feels unfair and unfun to face like old Freddy did.

  • RobMeister88RobMeister88 Member Posts: 172
    edited January 14

    Ah I see what's going on here, you want an Ochido simulator where you go against potato killers who can be juked and easily mind gamed and bullied. Tell you what, how about we all just ask the devs to nerf not just Ghostface, but all killers to the point where they're

    -Slower than survivors

    -Take 3 hits to down someone

    -One shot weapons and exposed status takes 2 hits to down someone

    -Completely remove the ability to even stalk

    Posts like these are why the devs nerfed ruin and changed doc (for better or worse), whiny survivors who would rather be boosted by the devs instead of using the plethora of existing counterplay to survive.

  • orangegoblinorangegoblin Member Posts: 34
  • PlaquerPlaquer Member Posts: 178

    You are really understating Ghostface's power, he is actually a very good killer, but that doesn't make him OP

    idk wtf you're talking about, old Freddy was a joke to play against, he wasn't threatening in the slightest and most of the things survivors deem to be "scummy" didn't even work with him i.e. face camping, slugging. Ghostface is NOT old freddy, he is in a good spot atm and you need to understand that just because you aren't doing well against him doesn't mean he needs a nerf, it means you should improve as a player rather than beg the devs to make it easier for you

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456

    You could try reading what I wrote instead of going on the defensive.

    Old Freddy wasn't the strongest yet everyone hated him. Why? because although he was not OP he was not fun to go against due to his power.

    I specifically said Ghostface isn't the most OP killer, nor is he straight up overpowered. He just feels cheap and not fun to face. So taking the usual defensive approach of "git gud" really doesn't work.

    People know how to play against Ghostface, they just don't like how he plays. In the same way that people knew how to play against old freddy but nobody found him fun to play against.

    That said there is ample evidence that at the moment you CAN'T play against Ghostface correctly as half the time you can't even reveal him.

    What you typed just comes off as saying "don't nerf my killer, i like them strong with easy hits that the survivor can do little about". Perhaps I should ask for you to try playing other killers and getting better at getting hits so that you don't need a killer with zero terror radius, zero slowdown, and zero attack delay while cloaked.

  • orangegoblinorangegoblin Member Posts: 34

    "I like them strong with easy hits that the survivor can do little about" That is what stealth killers are meant to do, Tier 1 Myers, GF, get the jump on them, surprise them, "Sounds like Orc mischief to me! They come with fire! They come with axes! Gnawing, biting, breaking, hacking, burning!! Destroyers and usurpers, CURSE THEM!!" If anything, Pig, and Wraith needs some love and attention to do the same, the growl/bell kinda kills it for em. Hell if they gave Ghostface permo stealth and got rid of his ability to expose survivors or made it an add-on I wouldn't care less because jump scaring people is what makes him and Tier 1 Myers so much more fun than Pig or Wraith.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456

    But Myers has a 16m terror radius....like GF was meant to have a 16m warning. When myers is in tier 3, he gets instadowns but you get a 32m radius.

    GF has none. Fail to spot him and you're exposed too. It's an awful feeling, especially if he has you at 99% stalk,pops his head around and you're screwed.

  • HuntarHuntar Member Posts: 685

    Any time I see people complain that it's too hard to break GF out of his shroud, I know I can safely discard what they have to say about him. Every single time so far, it's always been people that didn't understand how breaking him out worked, and are just upset that simply having him on screen doesn't count as revealing him.

  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 1,515
    edited January 14

    GF is literally one of the killers that i follow because i want to take his power away. There is not much more to in this game possible to show that you disrespect a killer so much. That is funny because afterwards you can loop for days like any other 115 killer.

    I don't know what bad survivor you are but get good, learn anything or play tetris.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456

    Well thanks for the toxic response.

    GF seems quite well hated among the community so I guess we all need to get better and learn what fun is.

  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 1,515

    Yeah you do because the noobs and potatoes in this game, rob any skilled player of any challenge and you make the game dull and boring because you struggle with the most basic aspects of this game.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9


    That is the biggest problem I have with Ghostface. If they can fix that issue where Ghostface doesn't some type of notification that someone is looking at him even if it's for a second it makes the game better. But with that stupid notification is just insanely powerful, it needs to go.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9


    The guy is very powerful, he is by far the most popular killer on the PlayStation 4 next to Myers and Spirit killers. I see Ghostface far more than any other killer even the Oni and Hilbilly takes a backseat when it comes to Ghostface. And these guys are running very similar builds like 90% of the time. And like I stated before each game is a hatch game except for when they wanna tunnel and camp one survivor just to teabag them.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9

    Even the killers who play Ghostface tells me he is the cheapest killer to play as. He's basically the You can't Lose the deus ex machina of Dead By Daylight killers.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9


    It's not just me who wants him to get nerfed or change some functions of his. I don't even have to search the forums to find topics on Ghostface being too OP, needs a nerf, etc, I'm sure there are quite a few complaints there about him. And majority of the players I do end up talking to in Dead By Daylight agrees he is OP, and some who actually knows about the existence of this forum and they don't wanna deal with this forum because of the heavily biased opinions on defending killers and nerfing survivor perks to the ground and buff killer perks.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9

    It seems your missing the big picture. I don't care about the other killers, they are fine and sometimes fun to go against espeically Ms.Piggy. Ghostface is one a whole different story of BS. And lets be real, players will always go for what the Meta is to get easy wins, before it was Spirit and there was tons of them before the nerf. Since then it's now Ghostface 90% of the time. I don't even remember the last time I seen a Nurse, Doctor, Hillbilly or even a Clown.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9

    Myers is fair and I'm okay with that. But you know exactly what I'm dealing with when it comes to Ghostface. It happens in all my games and people just get snowball, some players are so tired of seeing Ghostface they just dc. They just say screw it.

  • MaticMatic Member Posts: 9

    Have him in the center of the screen while looking at him right?

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456
    edited January 15

    You know its weird how Myers and Gf share similar mechanics, yet a number of people on here (myself included) listed Myers as the most fun killer and Ghostface as the least fun killer.

    I see many games where GF gets an instadown or a gen grab right at the start like 15 seconds into the game and its that which always causes the dc. People feel its cheap and bs. Myers can get gen grabs too but its rare and also he moves slow and his breathing is louder than Ghostfaces cloak so I’m guessing thats why they don’t care. Also they know that Myers will lose that kind of stealth soon enough.

  • thefallenloserthefallenloser Member Posts: 250

    Ghostie is a popular killer, but he's not even close to red rank material. He's very popular in the green rank territory, but as a red rank survivor and killer, and Ghostie main, he's not red rank material and I see the typical Spirit and Billy way more often.

    You cannot apply your experience to the game as a whole.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,456

    Ghostface is easily red rank material. His ability to get free hits and the fact that survivors have no idea where he is often wins me games easily. It's not just my experience I watch a number of streamers who all have the same experience.

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