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Remove all NEGATIVE effects in addons (Some addons will be needed negative thinks)

JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207
edited August 2018 in General Discussions

Like trapper and hag... the others killers deserve that, as u know a lot of addons brown to purple have downsides, that was i guess really unfair because a lot of addons (survivor and killer) don't have any negative effect

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  • azazerazazer Member Posts: 446
    Seconded. 
  • DelfadorDelfador Member Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2018

    Yes some killers have unnecessary nerfs for their addons and powers. For example, as if wraith is not weak enough, when he is coming out of cloak, he can get stunned because of flashlights. Again as if freddy is not weak enough, he has debuffs in his dream world like fog and dark layout.

    Fatigue for nurse and negative features of her addons, hatch reload for huntress make sense but having debuffs with obvious weak killers is just dumb.

    edit; forget to use and :/

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @Delfador said:
    Yes some killers have unnecessary nerfs for their addons and powers. For example, as if wraith is not weak enough, when he is coming out of cloak, he can get stunned because of flashlights. Again as if freddy is not weak enough, he has debuffs in his dream world like fog and dark layout.

    Fatigue for nurse and negative features of her addons, hatch reload for huntress make sense but having debuffs with obvious weak killers is just dumb.

    edit; forget to use and :/

    totally agree, the wraith have more negative effects in every addon, like the nurse

  • ShadoureonShadoureon Member Posts: 493

    Removing these would put killers in a better state. I even think there should be a 25% chance your addons wont be depleted after the match for every kill you make. As a survivor main as long as I escape I pretty much have my items and addons forever.

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @Shadoureon said:
    Removing these would put killers in a better state. I even think there should be a 25% chance your addons wont be depleted after the match for every kill you make. As a survivor main as long as I escape I pretty much have my items and addons forever.

    i forgot that, the survivor can have infinite toolbox or med... etc until they die

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    I'd also be quite pleased if they removed the "increase the dark mist" addons from the dark web. Useless to a killer and would leave more room for actually usable addons.

    yeah me too hope the devs read this

  • VisionmakerVisionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️
  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @Visionmaker said:
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
    it scares you?

  • VisionmakerVisionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited August 2018
    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    i say for all killer no only for nurse... so
    it scares you?

    90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.

    Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.
  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @Visionmaker said:
    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    i say for all killer no only for nurse... so

    it scares you?

    90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.

    Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.

    nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Nurse needs a rebalancing altogether, IMO. She has a high skill cap but once you achieve it she becomes a murder machine.

    rebalancing? in movement speed i guess

  • VisionmakerVisionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited August 2018
    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    i say for all killer no only for nurse... so

    it scares you?

    90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.

    Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.

    nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here

    Lol. Pack it up people, leave the balancing to this guy. 

    Devs, hire this man.
  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @Visionmaker said:
    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    JAZC_CR said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    

    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️



    i say for all killer no only for nurse... so

    it scares you?



    90% of high rank games being 4 Blink Nurses with zero change in skill floor? I'm overjoyed.

    Plus Waterlogged Shoe and Scarred Hand Hag would be cancerous.

    nurse is ez too dodge i don't know why people can't dodge here

    Lol. Pack it up people, leave the balancing to this guy. 

    Devs, hire this man.

    i guess u have problems with her, but me and my friends play normally against vs her

  • ASpazNamedSteveASpazNamedSteve Member Posts: 1,783

    Terrible idea. Some addons would be WAY too strong. Especially for the Nurse and her addons, that would be completely ridiculous.

  • Dr_doom_j2Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
    Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
    Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
    Stop being so dense
  • Dr_doom_j2Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    edited August 2018
    Granted, iri hatchet were a big issue if I remember correctly. Buuuuut huntress has been getting nerfed left and right and there is a lot of discussion on whether or not she is even top 3 anymore (especially because hag is VERY strong right now if you play her with equal dedication, but is also a lot more fun and balanced)
  • VisionmakerVisionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
    Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
    Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
    Stop being so dense
    Maybe they should be tailoring changes for each killer instead of callously getting rid of checks and balances across the board.

    Stop being so dense.
  • Grey87Grey87 Member Posts: 346
    edited August 2018

    Some need negatives so that their addons wont be too strong.
    Sure , remove the negatives but then don't forget to nerf some of the positives.

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    I think it's mostly her add ons. A good nurse with 4 blinks? Forget about it. She's the one killer where killer skill trumps survivor skill. Which is okay but she does it to an unfun level.

    i agree but the other addons, remove the negarive effects

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207

    @ZombieGenesis said:
    Yup, killers can't get anything positive without negatives, remember that. That's only for survivors.

    i forgot that for one moment, every survivor addon aonly have possitive thinks.... only 3 or 4 have negative thinks

  • JAZC_CRJAZC_CR Member Posts: 207
    edited August 2018

    @Grey87 said:
    Some need negatives so that their addons wont be too strong.
    Sure , remove the negatives but then don't forget to nerf some of the positives.

    i agree, but not all, just look wraith all have negatives

  • Dr_doom_j2Dr_doom_j2 Member Posts: 869
    Because Nurse needs to be any stronger. 🤦‍♂️

    Well obviously the nurse doesn't need buffs, but if they got
    Rid of the devices, they could actually work to balance the
    Base kits of all killers in game, including nurse (i.e. possible nerfs)
    Stop being so dense
    Maybe they should be tailoring changes for each killer instead of callously getting rid of checks and balances across the board.

    Stop being so dense.
    You really are dense, you can't help it my though, I get it. Did that have to be explicitly implied for you to get it, because that's pretty much what I said yet you still missed it. 

    If you gonna respond on that child's level, keep my name out of it please
  • thesuicidefoxthesuicidefox Member Posts: 8,227

    Freddy's add-ons definitely need the drawbacks removed. It makes most of his yellow and white add-ons pointless. White block should be -1s, yellow -1.5, green -2, and purple -2.5. Claws/Rake/Paint Thinner need a rework too (maybe it makes DW darker for survivors or something). Dresses shouldn't increase transition at all.

    However some add-ons are REALLY strong so they need drawbacks. Class Photo is super powerful, so it should have a drawback to using it. +2s transition is a lot, maybe drop it to +1s transition (which in this case isn't a complete nerf since it's also giving you more time that you can see the others since it lasts the duration of transition). Red Pain Brush is strong too, but instead of drawbacks I would just rather it only affects his terror radius in dream world and nothing else (no reduced movement and no reduced transition).

    Wraiths new add-ons don't have drawbacks IIRC. I think Wraith will be in a good spot once his update comes out.

    Myers is another one where drawbacks are important. Judith's Tombstone is probably among the top 5 strongest add-ons in the game (along with tuft of hair) so it should slow you down considering you can just instant-kill someone.

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