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Why did DBD ruin one of their first DLC characters? AKA the nurse

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  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 1,254

    Entitled survivors couldn't bully the original nurse, fact! That's a big no-no. The new iteration can be genrushed if you play by the game rules. She can be abused. We're talking DBD, a game the devs balance for brown rank survivors against red rank killers.

    Instead of addressing why killers were forced to pick nurse when they saw legacy Jakes in the lobby, they were all told to go to hell while giving survivors a thumbs up.

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 2,629

    As a Nurse main, it's mainly a bug and add on flexibility thing for me. I have no issue with her power level, and she's the most fun killer to me when she functions as intended. Base recharge is slightly too long relative to base distance against edge case 3k+ hr survivors that can really manipulate LOS+Distance and turn every 2nd blink into a max range guessing game, but those survivors pop up like once every 10th game, and I just use add ons to mitigate that, which puts her in line with every other killer re: add ons

  • BigBrainMegMainBigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    I can bet money on the fact that anyone and everyone who says "she's still the best killer" has hardly put any thought or work into her after her nerf.

    She has visual and sound bugs that haven't been acknowledged. She can't use her second blink many times. She still has a double fatigue stun, she can't port through many walls. Dedicated servers messed with her as well since she needs her blinks to be accurate.

    She's been over nerfed and it's unfair what they did to my favorite killer and the neglect she's going through.

  • siren_sorceresssiren_sorceress Member Posts: 270

    "This story gets old." You mean the truth got old? Shes was incrediblely overpowered. Theres no excuse for whatever bugs she has but those are obviously not intended so to complain as if they were is just plain silly.

  • siren_sorceresssiren_sorceress Member Posts: 270

    Her kill rate was low bc most players didnt play her optimaly. She was god tier broken in the right hands and any experienced dbd player who isnt drowning in bias knew this.

  • UpsettingDruid0UpsettingDruid0 Member Posts: 20

    Nurse has been a controversial killer since her inception, most people forget that her base kit used to be three blinks, she's been one of the killers with the most changes. Her add-ons were always something that I think caused issues but I didn't think her base kit was to strong, I do play both sides btw. I think the biggest problem with Nurse rn is all the bugs that she has, there should be no reason I fully charge a blink and go nowhere, if you don't believe that it happened to me, watch one of Otz's videos and you'll see it happen. I think all her bugs and dedicated server issues need to be fixed before the devs look at her base kit again.

  • RobMeister88RobMeister88 Member Posts: 351

    People didn't know how to loop her. "ignores game mechanics" *can have her entire power negated by doing sharp turns on walls/tires*

    People asked for nerfs because instead of learning the already existing counter play, they just wanted the easy way out.

  • BigBrainMegMainBigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    You mean she was a difficult killer to learn and the payoff was 3-4kills a game after weeks/months of mastering her?

    Oh no, what a plague among the survivor community.

  • siren_sorceresssiren_sorceress Member Posts: 270

    Um lol no, shes the best killer and needs the best players to play her. I'm guessing you never played her well or played against the old blinkybill or swift.

  • DexyIVDexyIV Member Posts: 500

    I don't understand these people that actually think Nurse is ruined by the changes they did to her, when the only thing that was changed was her addons that she didn't really need anyway and the fact they added an extra second of wait time after fatiguing. Seems like a slap on the wrist compared to what they could have done. But I don't see her as much anymore so I guess I shouldn't complain too much

  • BigBrainMegMainBigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    They gave a red bar to her blinks. They made her addons from bad to wtf.

    She still has Omega Blink. Changes to her Basekit were unnecessary and she is riddled with bugs that the devs refuse to acknowledge.

    She can't port through some walls, she can lose her second blink at random.

    A decent team running Dead Hard is a gg.

  • Malik1178Malik1178 Member Posts: 34

    The nurse is still the best killer. Just because shes harder to use doesnt mean she isnt good anymore you just have to learn to get used to the new nurse. I get ez 2k-4ks with her and im on console. If that doesnt say anything then idk what does

  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 2,246

    Dafuq? Read what he/she/x wrote and read my reply to it again if it confuses you. I didn't make any statement about what nurse was but many people already told the devs that they were fine with an addon rework which I am too.

    This is now what almost half a year since then and they have not fixed any bugs that they caused with this lazy ass job. The killer is in such a bad state due to various bugs, not all of those do even affect the nurse alone but survivors too. Like there is this one bug which is completely gamebreaking and if more people play nurse and simply abuse this bug, i bet the outcry would lead to a fast fix asap.

    But i kinda think the rest will be left as is. When the game decides you can not use your power and people say "STILL BEST KILLER" cause they have no clue since they obviously never play nurse at all but have the audacity to make statements about it, is pesky. This story and statement gets old because it is not true at all, best killer simply is not one where you can flip a coin whether you will be able to use your power or not be it due to bugs or due to a map filled with deadzones due to lazy ass job again in the creation.

  • TokyoTearsTokyoTears Member Posts: 9
  • TheHippoTheHippo Member Posts: 41

    She is absolutely not the best killer anymore, and the Devs own statistics show as much. Regardless, they went too far with the nerfs. No killer should be knee-capped like that, gradual nerfs and changes should've been the route to go.

  • TokyoTearsTokyoTears Member Posts: 9

    Shape has been pretty strong lately, he can stalk all he wants and it’s pretty overpowered if you don’t have spine chill. Nurse was still slow, and it was very easy to escape from her. If she couldn’t blink she would have normal moving speed anyways.

  • CottenCotten Member Posts: 29

    I agree. As a killer main i tried the nurse after the rework. I can say that after 50+games with her I don't like the rework. She feels clunky to use, blink charge time varies depending on if your blinking in open space, through object, thickness of object so its hard to get the blink alone down. Couple that with only 2 blinks, now she is less aggressive. You have to wait for that second blink to charge back up to do anything offensive which just gives more survivors more time to run. Lets be honest she is easily countered by any good survivor. They just look behind and see you blinking and run back towards you.

    I get she was hard to go up against I do but this was too much. I think doing a combination of the following might make her feel more sold.

    1) Make her base movement speed 4.2 and leave her 2 blinks that she can only blink a set distance ( no charge up just blink.) This will allow Nurse users to use blink in an aggressive and consistent too which is the big thing. You can even increase the recharge rate to balance this out.

    2) Make charging her blink faster. The way it is right now makes it too obvious and easily counter.

    3) Allow us to swing while holding the charge. I don't know why we cant since she swings with the other hand

    4) Allow us to cancel the blink. This will add more mind games during the encounter.

    5) allow the camera angle to determine which way we are moving mid blink. To many times I blink and see a survivor to the right or left mid blink but I can't do nothing cause I have to blink in a straight line.


    Now im not saying add all these or any im just suggesting things. So bring on the Survivors who know nothing about the nurse because they are casual killers and let the flame

  • danielmaster87danielmaster87 Member Posts: 1,305

    Her lunge out of blink is so pathetic. I played with her today and could hardly land any hits. She's a useless killer now.

  • AestheticCharmsAestheticCharms Member Posts: 136

    Doubt you were a good nurse then. I play great 3k sometimes 4k but I'm still playing good.

  • DVD420DVD420 Member Posts: 31

    This really shows you the thought process of the Devs.

    A survivor add-on/Perk/Mechanic is too strong? Suck it up or stop playing the game loser.

    An almost entirely SKILL-BASED KILLER is overperforming? So sorry, we'll fix it right away my dear.

    Their bias is so blatant at this point and yet they still try to deny it.

  • DwinchesterDwinchester Member Posts: 961

    Do you any data to back those statements up? YouTubers, streamers, bhvr stats? I understand that you take the stats with a grain of salt, but she has the lowest pick rate and the lowest kill rate. It would seem to me that if only the skilled played her long term, then her kill rates would be very high.

  • MigrantTheGreatMigrantTheGreat Member Posts: 900

    1. Survivors complained. Unlike a certain entitled survivor main that hated Nurse because they couldn't mindlessly loop her, survivors were complaining because of how strong she was

    2. She was over performing. Not sure we're the devs pulled this idea from, but out of all the killer she had the least amount of kills and was used the least amount.

    3. Her nerf came with even more bugs and ruined her. Granted she still wears her crown, but she's boring af and unfun to use now, and is easily countered by Shift + W

  • snozersnozer Member Posts: 776

    And now she is a unicorn so i guess you are happy.

    You can tell people to buy the game now and only need to DC against spirit.

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