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I installed the game 4 days ago, ######### MATCHMAKING???!!!!!!

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  • EmealEmeal Member Posts: 1,436

    Dont worry about it, you will get better in time. Observe, Adapt, Improve, Conquer.

    It takes like 1 game to get enough blood to get perks on a character.

  • SnakeSound222SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467
    edited August 2020

    Yeah, the new matchmaking is utter garbage and the devs seem to be scared of admitting that. I wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to quit the game. The new player experience is horrible (the massive grind and terrible matchmaking are the worst offenders) and many others feel the same.

    Also if you’re on console I’d just try to switch to PC, this game has been very poorly optimized for years.

  • EmealEmeal Member Posts: 1,436

    No thanks, I like the new matchmaking system. Im getting evenly skilled players vs me.

    But I also play a lot, so i'm probably better matched. How much have you played?

  • Spirit12B4Spirit12B4 Member Posts: 5

    I don't know if it's just me, but as a solo queue survivor I've lately had the easiest matches of my life. I keep getting killers who I absolutely demolish from rank 12-20 killers as a rank 1. So I would say the system is completely broken, but hey at least I don't have to sweat to complete challenges and earn bloodpoints. ;)

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 5,106
    edited August 2020

    We're not told how it's calculated, we're not allowed to see what it is, we're not shown MMR results after the match, and there are dozens upon dozens of people reporting little to no change in matchmaking well after the supposed 10 game threshold. This would be called an obvious scam if it was any other product. The QA specifically mentioned there were protections for new players when that's a blatant, obvious, lie. Intentional or not, it's simply not true.

  • Madahala_Madahala_ Member Posts: 10

    gonna take back what i said. ive been getting some rank 5-1 killers and looping them fair and square, escaping, and etc. it's working much better than the rank system. i've been told many times that the only reason i'm not rank 1 is that i've got no time for the game, and can only play in packs of 3-4 matches per day. that way, ranking from 15 to red ranks is very hard, now i get it. the mmr is indeed super fair. thank you bhvr, for the nice work you're doing. PRANKED YA!!! my rank 20 friend who dies in the first 5 seconds of matches is being matched against rank 1's. why, if he's not swf'ing with high-ranks? explain yourselves, mods.

  • KaitsjaKaitsja Member Posts: 571

    Inb4: "But how did the match feel? Rank doesn't matter."

  • BaldursGate2BaldursGate2 Member Posts: 994

    Now you have to do something the first time, instead of just pressing m1 and bully the killer. Carry the other ppl if you are so good or get rekt.

  • KaitsjaKaitsja Member Posts: 571

    We were told it ran in the background for months prior to this update and that it would take 10 matches for the system to find your average skill level. Gameplay suggests that this definitely is not the case.

  • KiPiKiPi Member Posts: 43

    Survivor were supposed to need only 10 matches (if they are new or haven't played in a while) because they were collecting data beforehand.

    For killer it is 10 matches for each individual killer. But same as above, if you have played recently with a specific killer the system should have learned already about that.

    That's where most of the frustration comes from. They said that data was collected but people (especially streamer) who play a lot...like really a lot, should have quite the accurate rating, but the matching isn't accurate at all. That gives the impression that we got lied to - which set's people off. Additionally many have no fun playing because it's either too easy or too hard. I read a few exceptions where it seems to work, but well...overall it seems to be the minority by far.


    I read in a different thread, that the system is being looked at. Nothing more known currently, so all we can do is wait sadly.

  • xiangsuxiangsu Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2020

    I've been playing on ps4 for about 2 months now, and decided to get the game on pc to play with some friends. eventually i decided to play some killer and see if i could get up to where i was on ps4, where i'm currently rank 10. after 2 expectingly boring games, i figured maybe i'd start playing against somewhat higher ranks, like somewhere from 15-10. I hadn't even been playing that well so this just didn't make sense to me. After looking at their profiles, this was a 4 man swf, all with at least 1,000 hours in the game, one with 3,000. there is no reason a killer on their third game, after playing average games against people who just started playing, should be matched with this. Before this happened I believed, despite all of the other posts about all of the unbalanced games, that it could work at least most of the time. But after this, i'm not so sure.

  • Reaver_RazielReaver_Raziel Member Posts: 400

    Dont know if anyone has said this, but unfortunately its not just your mmr at play here. You also have the killers and the other survivors. Some assumptions here, but maybe the game takes the killers mmr, and tries to build a team that would be fair to play against. That would be my guess. So unfortunately its not entirely up to you, its up to everyone to play enough to get proper "mmr". I believe it takes at least a week if not more before we get more "balanced" matches. They claim the program have been running but considering it hasnt been trying to matchmake teams I believe thats where some of the weirder matches comes from.

    Again this is just speculation on my part. I cant recall having played a game that tried to implement mmr into its 4 year old game so for all I know this might be perfectly normale for the first while. And I would guess you not knowing the rankings of your team mates and the killer, would remove a lot of frustration from a lot of people. As some have said it seems to have been an ok match. I got a lot of similar results before the MMR so all I can say is, its not worse. Its just different xD.

  • Ghouled_MojoGhouled_Mojo Member Posts: 1,704

    I don’t see how this is supposed to work when I keep getting teamed up with idiots and ppl so new they won’t do anything other than hide on lockers until the birds come or stay still enough to attract the birds. Then they decide to follow you while you’re trying to disarm traps. I’m sure my MMR score sucks.

  • SocialDistomancySocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319

    lmao

    man it must be a fun time to be the killer

    I think I'm gonna put the horizon port on hold and enjoy some day time killer queue and then swap back to horizon or survivor in a few hours before the non potato swf hit the queues

  • KilmeranKilmeran Member Posts: 3,121

    I'd recommend on holding off on the Horizon PC port anyway. Reviews are not kind to it right now. Apparently, it is having major performance issues.

  • PawcelotPawcelot Member Posts: 985

    All my survivor games since the MMR system introduction have been me (green rank) + grey ranks vs a red rank killer who stomps the entire team because I cannot do everything alone. Its not fun.

  • MikeasaurusMikeasaurus Member Posts: 2,315

    Same here. Maybe 1/5 matches gives me fantastic teammates, but the other 4/5 are newbies, or players who belong in newb levels just crouching in the most obvious hiding spots, or locker hopping, too afraid to even try save someone. I've had to completely redo my perks just to even have a chance to survive and as you say, there's only so much you can do alone before you're screwed over.

  • PawcelotPawcelot Member Posts: 985

    My very first game of the new MMR system was me dying on my first hook while everyone else crouched around the edges, scared for their life.

  • SocialDistomancySocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited August 2020

    last night that started changing me, purple rank here, the matches started having some a bit closer together as well as the killers becoming purple and green mixes in ranks. I still got some reds though, but even earlier int he week the red kilelrs weren't always a death sentence. though those times they snowballed early off a couple people trying to save each other it usually was a 1 or 2 rank killer I think. The funny thing is rank never really meant a lot anyways before this week, although to some degree it's still not something to excuse some of the blatantly whack matchmaking recently. had some matches with a red or two, and a 20 or 2 myself recently on the team. It was weird, and ironically, sometimes the red was being tunneled first. Maybe the red killers recognized them and singled them out or something as a strategy. I dunno. I would have in their shoes to make it an easy game, so I don't blame them.

    once in a while I got the last gen or an exit gate from killers when I was the last alive, and got a hatch last night too from one. That helps keep you motivated lol. I feel sorry for some of the low ranking killers with just a perk or two that I've also seen lately though... if I had known some of those guys were gonna suddenly be so low I wouldn't have done some of the ######### I did like killing all the hooks in one game that turned out to be against a rank 20 with a souped up toolbox with sabo addons and the sabo perk. I've been doing some odd stuff after becoming bored or losing a couple or few games too badly in a row like even trying no mither injured builds and stuff. Keeps it fun still. Also, spine chill is your friend these days. Lots of meyers, spirits, and even at least a couple of ghost faces as well as some wraiths.

  • cyniChriscyniChris Member Posts: 172

    The new matchmaking is atrocious. I have over 1800 hours in-game and was matched with someone who had less than an hour in-game the other day. I'm absolutely steamrolling new players and it's just not fun. Hopefully they fix the matchmaking system because right now there's a lot of problems with it. It was far from perfect before, but it was better than this mess.

    All I can say is give it time to be fixed, or push through that initial "trial by fire". It sucks, I know. The new player experience has been awful since launch, to be honest. The game needs proper tutorials and to give players information on how perks/addons are affecting them, etc.

    Don't give up, though. DBD can be a fun experience when things actually work!


    Also, ignore any trolls telling you the matchmaking is working. It's not. It's very clearly busted.

  • BaschFonRonsenburgBaschFonRonsenburg Member Posts: 234

    Returning to Xbox, it’s been hell. Nothing but potato survivors. If you enjoy stomping survivors not even having to utilize your powers or even mind game because all they do is hold w and self care in the corner of the map, then sure, but it’s just so sad seeing a poor little meg running away passing 5 pallets.

  • DeshDesh Member Posts: 1,118

    You know. You can still get your point across and not pretend to be a brand new player. You're about as bad as parents who pretend their children said something wise and intelligent when 99% of the time, they didn't.

  • MikeasaurusMikeasaurus Member Posts: 2,315

    My first match was pretty much the same, but thankfully I had Deliverance so I somehow managed to escape, but they all still did nothing. Ended up doing 3 Gens solo. I don't blame them of course. New players don't understand the game at all, so I hold nothing against them. I even tried to signal them to come help but they just wouldn't move. First match I did as killer I was GF and the whole team just hid in a single corner together. It got so bad I had to message them to ask them to at least do gens. It's just lose/lose right now because if you let the new players win, they go against stronger killers, but make them lose and you're just stomping them so hard into the ground they don't understand how to counter anything.

  • C_FrankC_Frank Member Posts: 179

    Today was generally a fairly even day with the new MMR. But there were 2 game as the picture shows. New killers against 3 red rank that finished in DC after 3/4 gen done. No hooks.

  • MagnafiendMagnafiend Member Posts: 20

    If you like the basic concept of the game, it's worth pushing through the god awful new player experience in the end. It's going to suck, but eventually you'll start to get the hang of it. Just know you're probably going to lose..... a lot.... especially with matchmaking the way it is. If you're playing on PC, get some friends together, do some customs to just mess about on the maps, or if you like playing survivor just jump into a lobby with a 3 or 4 man group and just experiment and try to learn.

    Also check out some youtube videos and how-to's for beginners (PainReliever has some REALLY good tutorials and in depth breakdowns). The game's learning curve is steep (almost vertical honestly) but if you don't really care much about being 'good' and can have a good time even when things are looking grim, just keep at it and you'll get there.

  • SocialDistomancySocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited August 2020

    I'd rather deal witht hat than sweat squads honestly. It would bore me after a while, but I'd have some fun with it for a little while at least. And feel motivated to get some rift challenges done with them being realistically achievable in reasonable amounts of time and/or effort. I'm afraid to destroy mmr tooe arly though, before the rest of the rift is released. But I'm also afraid to wait too long, in case they screwed something up and fix it without ever telling us about it losing my opportunity at fun matches and easy rift challenges even if I don't play killers much until the rest of the rift is available to breeze through on probably the last rift I'll buy.

  • BaschFonRonsenburgBaschFonRonsenburg Member Posts: 234

    Yeah it was laughable at first. I played three matches yesterday as legion and didn’t feral frenzy a single time, still gave hatch to the last guy and they never finished a single gen. They just don’t know how to play, and if I was a betting man I’d say half of them don’t even know about the tutorial.

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