We were never talking about gameplay changes. We were talking about current, extant tactics. That's what you opened this with.
Not that I disagree, bigger maps (not gen times) are problems on killers with slow early game mobility, but I think you could be exaggerating the times. Just a little bit.
^This. There are a lot of things in DBD that can ruin everyone's fun. The complaints that survivors have for killers and vice versa are all pretty much legit. The way to get around this is to not care about the outcome of your matches. Learning not to care about ranks or pipping can make a world of difference. I realize that with some people that's easier said than done, but if you stop looking at DBD as a competitive game, that will make everything significantly better for you.
I am a Myers main and believe me corrupt is your best friend on him for his stalk build up in early game.
A mistake a lot of corrupt users make is going to the corrupt gens looking for survivors because they think they likely spawned there. That is often true but your corrupt gens are not what you need to be going to. They are safe for the time being.
Unless you are facing potatoes the actual good survivors will go to the non corrupt gens. That's where you need to head to apply your pressure, and if you are playing Mikey get your stalk too.
Gen times aren't the problem, it's bigger maps with slow mobility killers. Streamer who demolish or get demolished don't prove anything.
Not to be that guy but that’s not gen rush you just didn’t pressure gens you can’t call gen rush if you only went to two people within that time letting the rest do gens freely as there isn’t much else for them to do if you aren’t chasing or pressuring them
A true gen rush is if they do gens and let their team die but that almost never happens
Then the fault is yours, because your opening statement was just as applicable to the OP and them not wanting to learn.
You ain't kidding, survivors have second chance perks out the yin yang! But what can ruin games for survivors is being matched against a killer that is far outside their skill level. With the MMR off the game is back to matching players by ranks, and since ranks aren't an adequate representation of skill, you could be matched against a killer that is far better than their rank indicates, and that's usually because the player stopped playing for a while or purposefully deranked. That's also not to say that newer players still aren't being matched against red rank killers as that continues to happen far too often.
There's plenty of frustration to be had in DBD, but there's a lot of fun to be had too, which is why it pays to not care about the outcome of matches.
"most Survivors become fixated on the Gen they fingered, and won't often go look for the one they haven't touched yet"
That actually made me laugh wayyy more than it should have.Very true, tho! I'm not leaving that gen once I touch it with my dirty survivor hands! 😈
thing is it hard to get survivors when they 4 of them only 1 of you how the game is.
corrupt, early downs, slugging.
the only time i would say its completely impossible to stop an early game genrush is strong tiles you can chain together
@azame can you explain this to the brainlets, im going to bed
Sure, but what about the times when they conquer survivors at 5 gens? Is that proof that survivors need a buff?
Well 2 30 second chases at the start of a match means 2 or even 3 gens are close to popping or pop before you even down and hook them. Eg if you chase a bunch of survivors off a gen and then only commit to that 1 survivor the others are just gonna come back and finish the gen because you've basically told them that you don't care about the gen popping and you'd rather chase that 1 guy. Then 1 big mistake in another chase, maybe you get screwed by the game or autoaim or hitboxes or whatever, and if they're an efficient team it'll likely cost you the game. There is a big RNG element to DbD but a lot of it is on you and your killer/build/playstyle. It takes practice and you can't really play nice anymore so slugging is one of the best things you can do to help give you pressure. And once you chase survivors off gens make sure they actually stay off them.
I really like this explanation. As I have said many times before, the killer is the victim, and survivors are the toxic aggressors.
What is going on brief me real quick.
its not about rank or depiping for me l just want games to last longer
complained about genrushing, while playin a low tier killer
If the killer isxlow tier run corrupt to buy time. As much as it sucks to say multiple slowdowns is understandable. Also extremely sketch to say 4 gens in 2 minutes is a problem you caused.
If you let 4 gens go off in 2 minutes then you really should look at your play style, you sure you wasn’t afk?
I genuinely love how you wrote this
Lol brilliant post and totally true on how it is. To quote someone, “you’re not locked in here with me, I’m locked in here with YOU!”
Bring Sloppy and spread the damage. Depending on your playstyle, you may be better trying to sneak in for a cheap hit and pushing them off their gen, but don't be afraid to rotate targets.
Depending on the caliber of survivor you're against, they'll either heal (aka, not gen rushing you) or stay injured (yay, instadowns)
Might I also suggest being more territorial. Winning the game doesn't mean 5 gens left. Don't be afraid to let a super far gen die off. Plot out your end game, and find 3-4 gens to protect for later on, and be relentless about smacking em if they get any ideas about touching them.
Good luck with your games 😁
Assuming you're saying 4 gens popped, and the timer starts at the beginning of the match, I have to say that's literally impossible; since gens take 80 seconds to complete, and 44 (without Prove Thyself) with 2 survivors
Slugging doesn't work if they are gen rushing, only if they aren't. Corrupt helps them by ensuring no team member makes a mistake and does the far gens. Early downs is... There's so much to unpack with how unreasonable that is.
There's a difference between an average team, and a genrushing team. All of that works against average teams. None of it works against genrusher deathsquads.
Same can be said about being tunneled when actuality it's a basic chase.
You dont play killer much do you?
Yea you at least need either pop or corrupt to stand a chance against most swf in red ranks
I dont do tournament level games but I do well enough in killer red ranks.
The whole point of playing survivors is to repair the gens. I main killer and I know that. There is no "gen rushing" it's literally their objective.