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Chapter 19 Delayed?



  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited March 2021

    Even when they say something, people are "led to believe whatever". And if something gets delayed, well, that's borderline apocalyptic. Maybe it's just time to stop assuming stuff in the absence of information.

  • BravescorpioBravescorpio Member Posts: 138
    edited March 2021

    People complain every killer "why did they release the killer in this state!"

    Maybe they listened to feedback and are balancing him more.

    People complain that the devs use to put up release dates, and then they had to miss those release dates because of certification issues outside of their control with sony and microsoft.

    People complained that some systems get DLC before other systems so they tried their best to stop doing that which lead to the above.

    People are just never happy

    Let me say this really loud for the people in the back:


  • ClownIsUnderratedClownIsUnderrated Member Posts: 1,031

    Is BHVR actually finally learning from their mistakes!? Guess we'll know know in another week, expectations are gonna remain very low though.

  • Zarr0chZarr0ch Member Posts: 591

    How can it be "Delayed" if they never published at date to begin with?

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    They set the general timeframe themselves and created expectation, it's on them if they want to address that or leave it be, but in either situation they are responsible for the outcome and reception that entails.

    They also finally did give information, but put it through a fog whisperer where I mean it could be a joke and we wouldn't know, because of their lack of any official word. This only exacerbates the situation further.

    So it's the devs' fault that people hype themselves up and then get disappointed when their 100% self-made expectations are shattered, despite the devs never saying anything, but at the same time any info the devs give through established channels (and yes, that includes FWs) is suspect and unreliable. And if they do say something, they're still to blame if people misunderstand (or blatantly misrepresent) what they said and get hyped. Sounds like catch-22.

    Just for the record, you (or the devs, in this case) are not responsible for other people's fabrications in the absence of information. The devs created no expectations because they literally confirmed nothing regarding release dates, that was all on the forumgoers. It's not the devs' responsibility to shoot down every fabricated story, especially when doing so will create the notion that any story they don't shoot down must be real.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    Because people had expectations (based on no information), and thus it's the devs' fault for... something.

  • Zarr0chZarr0ch Member Posts: 591

    I have to agree, not the DEVs fault for your expectations ( and I'm usually quite negative to the dev's)

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    Who used the word "delayed", though? The FW didn't use it. The devs didn't use it. It was OP. All the FW said was "it's not coming out tomorrow".

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    And that's why the devs no longer communicate with us as much as they did when the game was released. We used to have weekly streams where we got to shoot the ######### with them and people complained. Now they only give out release dates and such when they're a certainty, and people still complain. Worse, they try to make them out to be the bad guys because they can't control their own imaginations.

    I mean, if people are going to complain whether you do something or not, then you might as well do nothing, save yourself the trouble. They're gonna complain either way, but you get more free time that way.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675
    edited March 2021

    Nobody forced the FW to say anything, though. The FW asked if they could say it, and the devs said yes. You're reading too much into it, like the devs specifically ordered this FW to tweet this.

    No release date given, just heavily implied that tomorrow would've been the release date anyway. And people would still complain, because they'd still perceive it as a delay (for proof, see this entire thread).

    It's not even leaking really it's them giving someone else the go ahead to tell people....maybe...I mean did they? We don't know, we can't know for sure. It's not first hand; but apparently they are able to actually say something themselves but still are not? Why is that? It's just so unnecessarily confusing for no real reason.

    The fact that you don't know isn't what's causing your confusion, it's the fact that you're trying to guess what you don't know instead of focusing on the data that is actually available.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    CP2077 was rushed, though. The devs (not the people in charge of PR, but the actual coders and such) said so themselves. And it's still a great game.

  • Zucker_SchockZucker_Schock Member Posts: 527

    Community interaction and information is part of their job as a big modern gaming company. That they dont give any information or release dates in advance is a flaw in itself and originales from bad time management. If they would know what they are doing, they could give valuable information a week in advance. Like for example no release next week because of ... or estimated release on... before that.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    They used to do that, and people complained when those releases were delayed. When they weren't delayed, people complained about the quality of the releases. Now, without the devs saying anything, people still hype themselves up and blame the devs because their completely self-made expectations aren't met.

    There's no winning this. I don't blame the devs for shutting down most communication when people complain every single time. They might as well save themselves the trouble and do nothing, it's easier on the nerves.

  • Zucker_SchockZucker_Schock Member Posts: 527

    Yeah i know that. But in my oppinion, werent they great on informing us back in the day either. In my oppinion information can not be a bad thing, if the individual has a problem with it, its his/her own fault. Its better to do the right thing and piss people off instead of doing the wrong thing and piss people off. You will always make people mad, no matter what you do thats just how it is. It just depends on the number of people and how mad you make them.

  • MoxieMoxie Member Posts: 624

    Yes, a game that needed another year of polish, was released early for big 2020 Christmas sales. Look what happened.

    My point stands: Delay the release until it is ready.

  • DBD78DBD78 Member Posts: 2,835

    I think this is good news.

  • AlionisAlionis Member Posts: 700

    Better than having another buggy mess like chapter 18 (hopefully).

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