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So Nurse is getting buffed?

They said the reason Freddy got nerfed is because he had the highest kill rate but Nurse has the lowest so a Nurse buff should be coming soon? Or are they just gonna pick and choose what to change

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  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,606

    Average killrate devs are going for is 2k. Nurse already complies to the 2k. This argument is invalid in this case.

    I agree where you're coming from, but it needs to be an actual valid angle for this to work.

  • nursewannabenursewannabe Member Posts: 1,075

    Haha what an argument never heard this before 😂😂👌👌

  • ShadowRainShadowRain Member Posts: 607

    Wrong. Her killrate isn’t even a 2k its 40%. Nurse buffs needed or devs only pick and choose what they wanna change

  • Nurse will get buffed when her bugs get fixed...which is most likely never.

  • Mr_KMr_K Member Posts: 7,704

    Its not kill rate.

    Its complaints. Everyone knows that.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,229
    edited April 2021

    Freddy was fine strength wise where he was, the problem is no matter how bad you were or how little effort you put into him, he was so easy that everyone was playing him as close to his peak potential as they could compared to any other killer.

    However fixing that requires actual effort; nerfing the killer overall with some number changes is much much easier so of course BHVR is going to take the easiest option, since it benefits all survivors and only really bothers people who play one killer.

    Lastly, since many people complained verbally, they know there will be a stronger verbal approval of their decisions than negative ones, because more people play against freddy than people play as him.....


    Not a way to go with the actual game's integrity in mind, but from a cold logic standpoint it makes sense. I guess I can't blame them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • TripleStealTripleSteal Member Posts: 1,298
    edited April 2021

    The principle "to ignore nurse at all cost" is a whole tier above of "unsorted data pivot=>nerf" concept in devs' priorities.

    Jokes aside, I actually think your argument for this particular case is valid (despite being completely irrelevant in most discussions it is brought up to), because freddy performs average to poorly against high tier players, being the exact opposite of nurse in these terms.

  • ShamelessPigMainShamelessPigMain Member Posts: 1,843

    I doubt they based changes on said statistics, but you usually use those statistics to further bolster a position you already have. The amount of complaining about Freddy was inescapable, some of which was deserved, some of which was not.

  • PredatedPredated Member Posts: 2,606

    They based it on red rank stats tho. Nurse has a 57% killrate in red ranks. Freddy has a 3k average only on red rank stats.

  • EvilJoshyEvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,296

    I think the only reason her kill rate is low is her pick rate is low. That's because 1:she has a high ass skill ceiling and 2: her bugs. If they just fixed her bugs more people would play her, git gud and her kill rate would go up.

  • ReinamiReinami Member Posts: 2,443

    They literally did though. They said freddy had the highest kill rate at nearly 3 kill average. So they nerfed him. Every other killer has at least a 50% kill rate. Except for nurse, her kill rate is at 40%.

  • ShamelessPigMainShamelessPigMain Member Posts: 1,843

    Right, that's what they're going to say because it sounds better than "people hated Freddy like hell."

    Be sure not to extrapolate too much from statistics. What the statistics reveal is that, with Freddy, you can do very, very well. Much better than other killers. It doesn't speak to Freddy's basekit or his playerbase, it just says that you can play him and get good results. You can't tell how bad he is, and the same applies with other killers. You can only tell how far his potential reaches.

  • AceconklinAceconklin Member Posts: 1

    Ever consider maybe they looked at kill rates across all ranks and not just one? Nurse is strong at higher ranks meaning her skillcap is high and low rank players are bad with her. Freddy was easy at all ranks meaning his skillcap was low and all players could be good with him.

  • ShadowRainShadowRain Member Posts: 607

    So why don’t they say he was nerfed due to complaints and not the stats..

  • UnifallUnifall Member Posts: 749

    That doesn't matter though they said kill rates nothing about what ranks. If they're gonna nerf killers for high kill rates then it would make sense to buff low kill rate killers. They should never look at kill rates to nerf or buff a killer tbh. Because it should go both ways if they're gonna buff/nerf a killer

  • Psycho_Psycho_ Member Posts: 351

    I've never fallen asleep against a 4 regression perk, swing chains, paint brush Freddy.

    The only thing different about fred is the addons, which needed to go away.

    Nurse is just as boring to play against if they are good, with little counter play, but deadhard.

    However I can accept the skill now.


    Good meme though.

  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 2,958

    The issue is that it is too easy to win with Freddy so then the best Freddys had insanely high killrates, the better Freddy players probably still killed as much or more than Nurse which is much harder to do.

  • Devil_hit11Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 1,886

    It is not what is written

    "We’re back with another Developer Update, a series of posts going over the biggest changes coming to Dead by Daylight. This time around, we’ll cover a long list of Killer, perk, and quality of life updates that’ll appear in the upcoming Player Test Build (PTB).

    Killer Updates

    The Nightmare

    For some time, The Nightmare has stood out from the crowd with a particularly high kill rate, averaging roughly 3 kills per match. With that in mind, we’ve made some slight tweaks to bring him closer in line with the rest of the roster."

    I mean your either balancing off kill rate or NOT balancing off kill rate. I wonder what patch Nurse will receive 3 blinks base-kit. She only has 40% killrate, right devs? wink wink

  • ClownIsUnderratedClownIsUnderrated Member Posts: 1,031

    Since Freddy had such a high kill rate, so does Pig as well. Therefore I think a nerf should be coming to her soon as well

  • DoomedMindDoomedMind Member Posts: 793

    Nice joke, it made my day.

  • GoodBoyKaruGoodBoyKaru Member Posts: 19,883

    Best part is that this has already been answered :D

    Let me highlight:

    Some things may not be exactly where expected. For example, Nurse has a 40% killrate but she's arguably the strongest killer in DBD.

    Source

  • Mat_SellaMat_Sella Member Posts: 3,095

    Freddy = low skill ceiling, yet also extraordinarily high power, including one passively, and the ability to travel across the map in a few measly seconds. Yes of Couse he would get nerfed.

    Nurse = high skill ceiling and skill floor, therefore a portion will fail to perform as they are learning, but still, the killer ignores nearly every survivor safeguard there is outside of perks while having mobility. Also as seen above red rank nurses still kill on average over 2 survivors. No, of course Nurse does not need a buff. Bug fixes are welcome though :)

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