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DBD has become extremely Pay to Win. We need more ways to earn shards...

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  • DragonshensiDragonshensi Member Posts: 1,516

    The grind is terrible and I play nonstop and still trying to get perks and such.

  • FIEND8LOODEDFIEND8LOODED Member Posts: 334
    edited April 2021

    Just how much this game and its DLC costs sucks for new players and veterans alike. Personally I like making builds centered around specific things. A build made to make the exit gates as hard to open as possible, a slugged build, a chest build, flavorful killer and survivor builds, and it sucks to have to buy every new release just to get perks for these builds. I don't like shelling out more and more and more money on this game just so I can continue to enjoy it.

    And I sure as hell can't recommend this game to my friends because of that obscene hidden price tag.

  • FIEND8LOODEDFIEND8LOODED Member Posts: 334

    And what, that makes it okay? That makes it okay to hide the majority of the game's content behind paywalls or obscene grinds? Because the best killers and survivor perks are free?

  • SuperyoshieggSuperyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,375

    The game is not Pay2Win. That's what my comment was refuting. You seemed to have not read it properly, though I'll answer your unrelated question anyway.

    Yes, actually.

    We are coming to the game's fifth anniversary. The game is like $30. It would not be sustainable to have the game funded purely off initial purchases.

    The game needs to be funded somehow, and that somehow is by making new DLC expansions quarterly.

    Anyone who plays the game regularly will be able to make enough Shards to pick up the new Characters. It's 18,000 Shards every three months. Failing that, the DLCs themselves are like $10.

    So yes, I think it's okay that a lot of the Killers and Perks are behind paywalls/grind walls, because it keeps the game alive. The game is not Pay2Win.

  • SluzzySluzzy Member Posts: 3,131

    There is a lot of favoritism for killers. It's pay to win for killers. All you have to do is look at Leatherface, Freddy, and now they plan to buff Demogorgon when he doesn't even need it. BBQ has been PTW and never having any nerfs, with how broken the aura reading is. It's obvious how broken the perk is on a killer that is high mobility.  

    For Survivors it is Bait and Switch. After everyone bought Laurie and Ash, they nerfed their perks into uselessness.  Only killers should buy licensed chapters because they get what they need. RE will be another PTW chapter for killers. 

  • shiffpup2shiffpup2 Member Posts: 102

    One of the biggest problems is the player level that resets after 100 levels. Since that's how you earn shards, and the amount resets when your level does. It's only purpose is to extend grinding and make microtransactions more enticing.

  • D3spairD3spair Member Posts: 651

    May I introduce you to Perks are highly required in high skill trials that are super rare in Shrine and behind a paywall?

    BBQ and Chili

    Hex: Ruin

    Pop goes the Weasel

    Corrupt Intervention

    Hex: Undying

    Detectives Hunch

    Decisive Strike

    Soul Guard

    Lucky Break (Next patch)

    Old OP Mettle of Man

    This also proves that Killer is Pay2Win and Survivor gets all their powerful crap for free.

  • hikenhiken Member Posts: 896

    not even close from being pay to win,, as survivor the best perks are totally free except for DS wich is not amazing anymore but decent and was on the sanctuary recently. the perks for killers the best ones are free with some exceptions, and are from free killers aswell, Ruin, Corrupt, Pop, come with free dlc characterrs, then survivors are just skins wich arent worth most of them except for very especific perks on some.

  • SpillSpill Member Posts: 198

    I do think they should raise the limit of earnable blood points in a match.

    10K for each category so a total of 40K can be earned.

    It just doesn't make sense that I've put over 1K hours into this game and still don't have all the teachables yet.

    Its rather insane when you put it that way. 1,000 hours...

  • Killerdonut80Killerdonut80 Member Posts: 87

    Your title cracked me up. I can win any match without a single perk being used. Skill trumps perks all day any day. Also you don’t have to buy everything all it once, dlc is like $10 each cheaper in sales, get it bit by bit. This is like the only game I’ve ever spent money on DLC for and its worth it.


  • Dito175Dito175 Member Posts: 1,323

    Demo definitely needed a buff no one played him and bbq it's not even strong, this is coming from someone who only plays killer for challenges.

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 10,936

    Those are or were strong perks, but definitely not pay2win..

    especially not the killer perks: BBQ is only used to lessen the grind as almost all killer players agree, Ruin and Undying are RNG based and if you don’t get the survs off the Gens they do nothing, you gotta play the game to win and the perks just give you an advantage, Pop and Corrupt both just lengthen the game.


    as you Said yourself. skill is required in high ranks. Many people have demonstrated that you can perform great without any perks.

  • D3spairD3spair Member Posts: 651

    If it isn't pay2win then why do majority of people buy these perks and bring them in high skill trials? I got tons of friends in DBD and I assure you none of them thinks that this is fair.

    "BBQ is only used to lessen the grind as almost all killer players agree, Ruin and Undying are RNG based and if you don’t get the survs off the Gens they do nothing, you gotta play the game to win and the perks just give you an advantage, Pop and Corrupt both just lengthen the game."

    BBQ is to lessen the grind, true but why is it behind a DLC character not made is base game? WGLF is free for survivor but Killers needs to buy Bubba so they can get a lesser grind?

    I must have missed the reason for Ruin and Undying being nerfed because when it released didn't majority of the survivors that it won Killers too many games?

    Pop and Corrupt both just lengthen the game. Of course they lengthen the game! That's the goal of Killer so they can win! If Killers didn't bring any Gen regression perk the trial would be over in less than 7 minutes with how fast Generators fly with decent survivors.


    Killer is Pay2Win and that's a fact!

  • MooksMooks Member Posts: 10,936

    Without any skill all those perks are useless. With skill those perks are not needed but can make your matches easier.

    it’s not pay2win. It gives viable but not necessary options. If perks/chars that can be bought would be weaker you would argue that purchasing these doesn’t have any use.

    it’s a lose/lose scenario for BHVR.



    but again. Viable options/additions does not equal pay2win.

    also don’t directly compare survivor and killer like that. Killers get way more BP per match than survivors (generally), even without any perks. WGLF also isn’t as easy to get stacks with as BBQ. This is an asymmetrical game. Judge it like one.

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