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Why is Deathslinger a better stealth killer than Pig?

NebulaNebula Member Posts: 452

I really don't understand this, man with gun has an easier time sneaking up on you than the assassin type character does. They really need to update Pig in my opinion.


  • MarcoPoloYoloMarcoPoloYolo Member Posts: 493

    Because muh statistics. Pig has the misfortune of being a pub stomper that's near worthless against good teams, so BHVR's probably not inclined to change her.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 6,902

    i mean, it does make sense that the guy with a ranged attack and a small TR has an easier time than the girl that wears bright red clothing and has to literally slowly walk straight up to people.

    Daddy Slinger can round a corner and shoot immediately, Miss Piggy has to round the corner and then slowly and awkwardly walk over to the Survivor, giving them plenty of reaction time.

    the only way of really addressing this would be to buff her ambush to allow her to attack from significant distances

  • Exerath1992Exerath1992 Member Posts: 1,035

    This, 100%. I just think her crouch speed should be faster and the undetectable should be instant, so she could sneak up better.

    The fact that they have the same TR but deathslingy can snag someone at the edge of his TR leaves less reaction time, as you said. Plus, he has less worries about spinechill for the same reason.

  • VexTheHexVexTheHex Member Posts: 954

    Not sure this is really a Pig issue though. It's more of why is Deathslinger part stealth issue.

    Pig is better compared to Wraith or Spirit. Two stealth killers that require little effort and have huge rewards for their simple game play. Myers, Ghostface, and Pig are really outshined by these two.

  • Aven_FallenAven_Fallen Member Posts: 10,421

    This is not really anything about Pig IMO. I would also not compare Pig and Deathslinger.

    But I dont really understand why Huntress gets a big Lullaby and Deathslinger is basically the stealthiest guy ever. It is not only his low TR which pairs with M&A and results in a Terror Radius lower than his shooting range, but also that his Terror Radius is so weird that he probably gets an extra 2-4 meters of Stealth.

  • OriginalNameOriginalName Member Posts: 40

    Spirit I understand but how does Wraith require little effort when he has next to no chasing power? If you mean little effort to stealth that kinda makes sense? But you still have to approach from odd angles and use cover just like pig, the only thing is he's faster than Pig when she stealths.

  • ReinamiReinami Member Posts: 2,286

    They don't have the same terror radius. Pig is default 32 meters.

  • VexTheHexVexTheHex Member Posts: 954

    Pig moves slower to go into position to charge her lunge dash. Wraith moves faster, slows down briefly which basically ='s Pig's charge and roar , and then gets his lunge dash. Then if the a chase happens, Pig has to be out of stealth and move normally while Wraith can go back into his to quickly and easily surpass a Survivor. Overall he has far superior stealth, far superior chase, and far superior mobility.

    Then Ghostface either gets a stealth hit (no super lunge) or charges his 1 shot. Both of these require a bit more thought than Wraith's since he is more noticeable. In the time he charges his one shot, Wraith could of already secured that first hit and put the survivor into the state of being downed on next hit. Overall Wraith has better stealth, better chase, and far superior mobility.

  • NebulaNebula Member Posts: 452

    Yeah pretty much this. I just compared the two because I think it's perplexing that a killer that's supposed to be oriented around stealth and game delay sucks at stealth when compared to a killer that's supposed to excel in chase.

  • GrimReaperJr1232GrimReaperJr1232 Member Posts: 730

    Allow me to explain (not agree, just explain).

    For starters, Pig is 4.6 while Slinger is 4.4. Because of this, they have differing Terror Radii of 32m and 24m respectively.

    Slinger is 4.4 meaning he NEEDS to use his power. Despite being a ranged killer, he's the only one with a range limit of 18m, so he needs to get close. This is why he lacks a lullaby like Trickster and Huntress.

    Pig has 3 powers. Her stealth, ambush, and RBTs. She's not meant to be the best in particularly any area but is meant to have a bit of many things. She has stealth, but it comes with a steep penalty since she's not specialized in Stealth like Ghosty, Myers, or Wraith.

    Plus, statistically, Pig is broken strong. I blame this on Tampered Timer along with her slowdown stacking with typical slowdown perks.

  • RenAmamiyaRenAmamiya Member Posts: 646

    I think the best comparison is to Myers. Why Myers can have a 16m TR in T2 (while having a 99 T3 btw) but Pig can't have at least her old 28m?

  • GrimReaperJr1232GrimReaperJr1232 Member Posts: 730

    I said statistically. I even explained WHY the stats favor her. I'm well aware how underwhelming she actually is.

  • Exerath1992Exerath1992 Member Posts: 1,035
  • neonblushneonblush Member Posts: 66

    Lol that’s so funny but true. I really don’t get why Ghostface can crouch at full speed but Pig slows down to be slower than running survivors.

  • TicTacTicTac Member Posts: 2,175
    edited June 12

    Ghost face cant crouch at full speed. Its 3.6m/s without addons, same as Pig. But you can switch your stance a lot faster.

  • neonblushneonblush Member Posts: 66

    ohh i see. so that’s why it feels so different. the animation is horrible for piggy

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