People who say dead hard has no counter…
WexlerWendigo
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Are you also advocating for tinkerer to be changed, as there is no way to avoid it being activated? Compared to other information perks such as BBQ, discordance, etc there is no workaround, and thus zero counterplay. You can’t advocate for DH to be changed because of lacking counter if you don’t hold the same standards for tinkerer.
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Dead hard does have a counter - the servers.
Those two perks don't even function the same way.
Spine Chill counters Tinkerer fine. SWF counters it even better.
Doesn’t matter, the argument for changing DH is that it has no counter, neither does tinkerer.
Yeah this is why I never use it
I mean you can still see the killer(If the killer is on an open map), hear them(oni, demo, myers, pyramid head, etc.), and spine chill exists.
Okay so killers should just start using coup to counter dead hard then, problem solved! You can’t call psychic prediction of what perks someone is going to use counter.
Coup de grace also exists, why don’t killers use it to counter dead hard then? Gens more often than not are in a building, behind a T&L wall, etc.
The Undetectable isn't the good part of Tinkerer, it's the information.
Yeah, exactly. It gives that on top of arguably better info than BBQ and discordance give, and that’s all they give.
People who say there is a counter to Dead Hard.....You are right.
People who say there is a counter to Tinkerer.....You are right.
Sooooo what's the problem?
Let’s hear this magical way to counter tinkerer activating like there is for BBQ and discordance. Not doing gens?
You can tell how biased people are on here, people saying spine chill is a counter to DH get upvotes, but me saying coup counters dead hard, nothing lol
Countered by Iron Will?
Just don't injure Survivors lmao.
Because coup can be used only 5 times. Spine chill is always active
Information, huh? Then try to explain how the killer is supposed to counter all the information sharing via comms in SWFs?
Because having 1 gen pop = 1 regular hit but with a longer reach, doesn't seem like a good trade-off. While gens are behind some kind of structure, you can still position yourself (at most places) where you have a better viewpoint.
Whataboutism at its finest.
Though, information sharing isn't anything. Yes it'll make any team coordinated but they need to be decent players alone or else you'll still win, least in my own personal experience.
How do you counter it? Simple, play better and prey on the overaltruism. How do you counter a tournament squad? You don't. You hope BHVR finally buffs solo basekit so they can give killers buffs across the board.
Whataboutism started with comparing an information perk with a several-extra-lives-per-trial perk.
How do you counter Tinkerer? Simple, play better and prey on the killer being too far away.
Tinkerer is only a problem when paired with Ruin and Undying, both of which are Hex perks that can be removed. Afterwards, Tinkerer is hardly a threat.
Meanwhile, DH being used to reach a pallet or window is something that cannot be countered.
Spine chill won’t be active if the killer is smart enough to notice it and look away
couldnt care less as a solo player
Yeah, that’s really helpful against nurse and blight…
Yeah because Freddy and Blight are two easy killers to do that to.
Information perk of Tinkerer being uncountable in solo and information between swf mates has literally zero correlation and if you see there is one please fire your optician with immidiate effect
Way to draw a bad comparison, one is very strong chase perk that gets used in every chase with injured survivor that has it.
Other is semi-stealth ambush perk that is very meh on all killers who don't have extreme mobility.
At that point we can argue how does killer stop deja vu from activating. It's silly and drawing any comparsion between perks that are so far apart is nothing but a strawman.
It really seems like some people are just miserable playing the game and posting on the forums.
I truly feel bad for them.
The people who care the most bleat the loudest. BVHR has had 5 years to fix several glaring issues, and it hasn't been done in that time. Indeed, they seem stuck in a time loop that requires them to take a step back for each step forward. If only my job gave me a 5 year window to fix serious problems, holy #########. That'd be heaven.
Of course, we all know that it doesn't work that way in most places. But hey, that's cool - it's going to take a Blizzard tier wake up for them to do anything, lacking competition and all. It's just a shame it's gotten here.
I mean tinkerer does have a counter.
Doing gens seperatly. If 2 tinkerers proc there is only one place the killer can go.
I'm sure there are examples from the killers perk list you can use but tinkerer really isn't one of them
Is this what you are after with your posts? Upvotes?
I am sure there are some sheep out there that will upvote your insane threads.
I feel like you want to be a Sluzzy/Lord tony so bad.....But fall short.
Coup only gets 5 uses per game. Spine Chill will work all game. That’s why there’s a discrepancy in upvotes.
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