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Attn Survivors: Camping and tunneling =/= baby killer

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  • ThiccBudhhaThiccBudhha Member Posts: 6,988

    I am a baby killer though. So, well, at least they get it right some of the time.

  • brokedownpalacebrokedownpalace Member Posts: 8,263

    Goo goo ga ga?

  • burt0rburt0r Member Posts: 3,175
    edited September 2021

    That's an interesting take but let's imagine the following:

    The killer plays fair for the whole match gets some distributed hooks and boom endgame but no one dead. Now the killer opts to tunnel an injured survivor out and camp them for the kill. The other three come in and save with BT, block the killer after the BT hit and survivor has still the DS/UB combo since there was no tunneling or slugging up until this point. Doors are normally 99% or open at this point normally.

    Now tell what a killer in general is supposed to do in this circumstances which aren't rare given the killer would play fair and distribute his hookings and survivor run preemptively meta perks?

    If the killer only opts to camp/tunnel/slug at that point then they might as well go afk.

    Not that any of that concerns me since I don't even try anything more than aiming for 2 hooks each and 4 escape in general.

  • KillerMain4EverKillerMain4Ever Member Posts: 142

    Gonna go tunnel trap people pinhead now with thrill and the blind perk to torment people

  • VonCrowVonCrow Member Posts: 378

    Camping or tunneling doesn't inmediately means you are a bad killer. Even top tier killers do it sometimes because its necessary.

    If the game is going fast you need to remove a player asap from the game. It's survivors job to exchange hook for the sake of the team.

    About camping...if you camp in the first hook you're probably new or just playing bubba. Good survivors can just do 5 gens in 3 minutes and get out while he is camping. But camping sometimes is logic and necessary, like when there is no gens anymore and the doors are 99%.

  • Johnny_XManJohnny_XMan Member Posts: 6,255

    Of course there are exceptions, that is why I said it depends on the situation.

    I am specifically talking about those killers who opt to Camp and Tunnel and only use that as their strategy. This means they never bothered to engage in a chase (other than focusing on the same survivor), did not kick a single generator as a sign of In your example they aren't doing that, and if it is endgame, at that point anything goes. There is nothing else for the killer to pressure really.

  • The_KrapperThe_Krapper Member Posts: 2,631

    Sounds like a player who is out of his league, I wouldn't call them baby killers but they obviously aren't good enough to pressure the people they're facing when they get in that situation and have to resort to that, which I'm not gonna complain about because it's totally within the rules for them to do so, but let's not pretend that playstyle is skillful

  • ilovedbd123ilovedbd123 Member Posts: 1,961

    Camping and tunneling can both be detrimental depending on who you tunnel (a good survivor will still run you for a ungodly amount of time if your not a good killer, camping against a team that at least two run kindred isn't gonna go well for the killer).

    Skillful in the sense that the counterplay is as easy as the tactic. Tunneling is difficult to do against good players, but against good players they will know how to swap hooks ect. Camping takes minimal skill, but sitting on gens takes minimal skill. Their skill curve is fairly even. This is talking about competent players though, which most aren't. But should we balance around incompetency? I don't think so

    The skill is know when and who to camp/tunnel to get the best results. See a really good survivor in a ######### position? face camp that ######### and make it so that the other 3 potatoes are gonna die if they don't sit on gens right away. See a teammate take an unsafe unhook without BT? Go for that survivor and ensure they die. Again, it's all situational. Saying it, as a blanket statement, takes no skill is very reductionist.

  • justbecausejustbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    Or you know bad Player that made wrong decision to chase one Player most of game when they knew they won't be able to make it what you do after that is covering your mistakes not adapting strategy to circumstances

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    Covering for your mistakes by changing your strategy is a form of adaptation.

    Are you saying someone who made a mistake and is about to lose should keep playing in the same way and just lose? How does that make them a better player than someone who changes their strategy after realizing their mistake and wins?

  • justbecausejustbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    I'm not gonna argue with you they are bad players it's their fault and their mistake and their lack of skills own up to it and lose like a man next time you'll realize your mistakes instead turning on puss* mode and covering it up and this is a fact ppl tend to ignore their mistakes and blame others and say "well I had to camp" no you didn't u lost right there when u decided to chase single person whole match

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 6,082
    edited September 2021

    I think a baby killer is someone who takes a one-size-fits-all approach to strategy regardless of the map or situation. Someone who is adamant about not tunneling or camping is just as much of a baby as a killer who tunnels and camps regardless of context. You have to at least proxy with low mobility killers on maps like Sanctum, Suffo Pit, or Azarov's to beat good players. You're straight up throwing the game if you cross those maps.

  • The_KrapperThe_Krapper Member Posts: 2,631

    You can make whatever type of reasoning you want but the fact of the matter boils down to two things and two things only , either A: You're a low tier killer who is unable to apply enough pressure to stop genrush by design, or B: You're not as good as the people you're against and have to resort to those tactics just to keep up pressure instead of doing it normally. Im not saying Its wrong to do that by any means but the only time people play like that is when they feel helpless and are getting outplayed to begin with

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    ...But they are realizing their mistake, which is why they changed strategies. "Losing like a man" doesn't mean you make one mistake and then immediately surrender without even trying anything else.

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 7,075

    The mental gymnastics in this thread would put the Japan 2021 Olympics to shame.

  • justbecausejustbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    Yeah it is if you made mistakes and it's nobody's fault but your own than own up to it nobody forced them to chase one person you're clearly seeing only one side which is killer side that survivor who gets face camped is punished for the mistakes killer made while they did good but it's dbd I'm not surprised poor plays gets rewarded and good ones punished

  • Lochnload_exeLochnload_exe Member Posts: 1,343

    Not fully true, most killers now (because of streamers and youtubers) think that tunneling and camping is the only way to win, and will do so every match thinking it is the only way. It is not, that streamer or youtuber has to because they are going after strong good survivors where tunneling someone once might be necessary. You camping your first hook after losing 2 gens is you showing you don't know how to pressure or change chases lmao. Stop relying on always camping and tunneling because you don't know how to play a 1v4.

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  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    The survivor isn't being punished, the killer is taking responsibility for their mistake and changing tactics. The survivor's death is the killer's goal.

  • justbecausejustbecause Member Posts: 1,521

    Yes the survivor is being punished because of killers lack of skills does survivor gets rewarded when they do mistake in looping? No they go down and die...

    I have played this game for 3 years both roles and I'm yet to see good killer camping outside endgame (I don't count endgame camping because that's only thing they can do at end and it's justified)

    You can't tell me good killer will willingly let gens fly like crazy and chase one person whole match that's called being bad player

  • EvilJoshyEvilJoshy Member Posts: 5,296
    edited September 2021

    This post smells like a salty survivor main trying to make their opinion sound valid by opening with "from a killer main.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 21,675

    How would that make sense? OP is saying that just because a killer camps/tunnels doesn't make them a "baby killer".

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