If for you they are good players nobody stops u from thinking that
In my book they are the absolute worst
Kind of players that lack of skills and play badly and than cover up their mistakes by scummy plays and gets rewarded by it and as I already said all players I encountered that are like this are truly bad at their role and that's fine because they will learn once ofc unless they keep being like that and rely on camping
okay, I miss understood the meaning of =/=. I thought that was a smiley face.
To reiterate, you are saying that a good player is someone who purposefully handicaps himself and loses, while a bad player is someone who doesn't and wins. Does that seem logical to you?
Good Player will pressure gens, will not go against same survivor for too much time and certainly won't camp and give them time to finish all gens and escape that's what good Player is
But oh well keep turning my words upside down so you can turn them into your favor never did i ever said what you just implied i said first off good Player won't lose because they have right technique and no room left for mistakes even if they get 2 kills that's what balance was always for and most likely they will pip too getting 1k with camping is still a loss, depip and cheap play
But I'm tired of repeating myself so I guess you do you and I'll do me
If survivors feed into it, it's a solid strategy regardless of the killer's skill level.
I mean, that is what you're saying, that a good player will just let himself lose if he makes a mistake, whereas a bad player will change tactics to win.
well as we all know there is not a killer who doesn't tunnel/camp to an extent. killers do what they gotta do.
I play by a 2 gen rule.
Once there's only 2 gens left anything goes as a killer 4 survivors and 1 gens is a sweatfest and most the time a lose. Now if 3 gens go in a minute and a half well I now have to match the same pace as the survivors.
I will never agree that camping and tunnelling are legitimate strategies to win, but ultimately everyone is free to play however they wish and I'm no one to tell you what's right and what's wrong.
I just hope they eventually get teams that demolish them so they get a taste of what it feels like to ruin the gameplay of other players.
Survivors just call killers who do things they don't like bad, because they don't want to admit that they are bad themselves.
It's funny when survivors cry the killer camped or tunneled and that they are bad, but the scoreboard shows all 4 survivors died.
1 kill by camping is no win, 3 escapes, depip aren't win Whereas good Player will pip and get at least 2 kills I don't understand where did you pulled out from that they will lose? Because they don't chase one person whole game? Actually patrol gens? Doesn't camp and has a lot more time for new downs? Well interesting
The survivors also being bad doesn't negate the lack of skill in the killer. Both sides are pretty explicitly bad in that scenario.
I rarely see survivors who complain about tunneling and camping actually have a point. It's just people looking for an excuse why they lost.
That definitely happens, to be sure - I wouldn't dream of saying another's experience there isn't representative of some toxic, low-skilled players on the survivor's side self-justifying. Thing is, I'm a killer main: I'm saying, when I do play survivor, I see a lot of people legitimately camping with no cause, I see a lot of people going for tunnels when there's easier or more advantageous prey, and I see a lot of killers shooting themselves in the foot with those "legitimate" tactics.
Love how people are trying to give context to a topic the OP never did.
Not all Camping and Tunneling is the same. In certain circumstances Camping/Tunneling is a strat, in others is just the player opting for the easiest thing to do, even though they will still lose because they couldn’t even do that part right. In which case that is the result of someone being a bad player, just because some survivors want to be mean about it doesn’t make it any less true.
We're not talking about that.
In the scenario where a player made a mistake (which everyone does, because nobody is perfect), you think the good player will just "accept it" and lose without even attempting to switch tactics to compensate for the mistake, whereas the bad player will actually switch tactics to adapt and win.
This is what we're talking about.
So you think covering your mistake by camping means you achieved something? Oh plss and a fat cat will catch a mouse if he ain't moving same thing about camping it's a cheap move keep trying if u lose it's ur fault ur mistakes has consequences and you can either own up to them and keep trying or you can stand still and play starring contest and see who blinks first
Also you have your point of view and that's alright no need for further discussion here
So you think covering your mistake by camping means you achieved something?
You first. Do you think a good player is the one who doesn't try to make up for his mistakes and just lets himself lose whenever he screws up?
Why would you limit yourself as a killer to some arbitrary rules made up by sore loser survivors? Higher skilled survivors can't be beaten on a lot of maps with 90% of the killers. Why are you trying to make up more rules to handicap them even more? Just take your loss and accept you were outplayed.
Good Player will indeed try to make up for his mistakes and it ain't camping
That's like saying like good player use dead hard to cover up his mistakes in looping no they ain't good survivor they just pressed E to outplay killer same thing with camping stand still for the win
If you could make your point without not one but two sexist comments, that'd be great.
If you're foolish enough to think that camps and tunnels 'outplay' anyone, maybe you should work on your own skillset - it's clearly lacking, regardless of your typical role.
Why not camping, though? It's a perfectly legitimate tactic that's only as effective as the survivors allow it to be.
Maybe you should just stop making excuses for your failure. If you ever played at high levels, you wouldn't be saying such silly things.
Local killer main:
I do fine as a high level killer main with genuine map pressure - because I use effective tactics, rather than the weak ones people like you need to justify to themselves. It's okay, though, the hypocrisy is amusing.
Good survivors use dead hard, because Good Survivors are the ones who use it effectively.
Shaming people for using things within the game just because you lost to it needs to stop.
Yes and no,
A good killer will need to tunnel against similar level survivors, or against survivors who are slightly worse but tryharding using swf on Comms.
A great killer won't need to in the above scenario.
It's not that they're outside my skillrange, it all depends on the levels of the players. The way I see it:
Killer skill= survivor skill,
Then no tunnel.
Killer skill= survivor skill
And survivors In a swf (not messing about),
Then tunneling is ok.
So if they camp they're bad, and if they spend gens getting looped they're bad.