What happened to “do bones”?
Now that COH is nerfed, let’s get rid of that unnecessary movement speed boost NOED provides!
Not happening. It's the must-have perk of he-who-shall-not-be-named. That makes it untouchable.
They wont. LOL just gonna go back to having all the bones done bfore the last gen pop.
Survivoids having to put in effort for a win oh no 😨.
Nah it aint gonna matter, because all killers do is tunnel and camp anyway. Can't win without it so honestly no it doesn't matter and it wont allow for any wins, at least for me because all of my survivor games are solo q so I think Ive done a pretty good job at staying alive and being able to actually pip with how horrible the killers have been playing.
I still wish for a simple change that I think would make it far more bearable for people; when that last gen goes off, the exposure status appears on survivors screens.
Maybe that would ultimately ruin it (since the Surprise Fother Mucker factor is a big part of why you can snowball so easily with it) but that feels like it would make the perk a bit more fair.
The only type of "fair" that you're going to get with noed is to get totems, thats it. Once its popped the killer is going to try to hook the survivor next to the totem so that if you find it you either get slugged or hooked. the killer isn't going to take the chances
Ill swf with you and youll see.
I'd rather the developers would fix face-camping from gen 5 and tunneling-off-hook-till-dead from gen 5.
But I guess they're more worried that survivors have gotten a perk that changed their meta after 4 years of worthless perks. Literally the last meta changing perk survivors got was Windows of Opportunity, which was 4 years go.
I'd rather not thanks tho
When survivors get all of their second chance perks deleted, only then shall noed be nerfed
No thank you.
Yeah youll see.
If the killer decides to guard the totem, there are then gates to open.
Right now the survivors don't attempt to avoid the killer at the end game (if they're healthy) because they don't realize NOED is in play. They're going to be way more cautious and have to make a choice to try to find the totem or try to open the gate if they know NOED is in play right away.
Personally I think NOED is fine the way it is but if I HAD to make a change, I think that would be the most interesting way to change it with how it would change survivors behavior in EGC time.
If NOED frustrates you, no nerf is going to stop it from frustrating you. It's already a bad, underwhelming, inconsistent, extremely flimsy perk that has the most counterplay of any perk in the game.
A full rework to make it more consistently useful for all killers in more matches could be a good idea, but it simply doesn't warrant a nerf. It's not even good, let alone overpowered.
Two years ago I was a "just do bones" argument guy, but after thinking about NOED I finally realized that that perk is unfair a lot of times, even with totem tracking perks require too much effort to cleanse/boon the 5 totems and if you're playing solo you can waste an huge amount of time for preventing a perk which maybe the killer don't have equiped.
It needs a rework, it's an outdated 2016 perk, I almost never use NOED and I consider it a good trade for the CoH nerf and future Dead Hard nerf.
I have no problems with noed either, i personally don't have a problem with ANY of the killer perks, the thing that I have problems with is the face camping and the tunneling at 5 gens just because they can. Its not fun to play against at all. when I play killer (low mmr) I don't tunnel or camp and if I don't get any kills so be it, But im not gonna sink to the level that I hate just to be like ya I won, I won't do it. It needs fixed
You basically gave away how much you don't play killer if you're still at low mmr. I tunnel and camp if the opportunity arises whenever if they make stupid plays. (They keep trying to bumrush hooks and they don't bother to bring borrowed or take hits.) I'll do it at all costs once it gets down to the wire.
I play the game to have fun, Not ruin for other people lol. I just had a match with 4 iri 3 survivors, I didn't have to tunnel or camp and I still got 3 of the 4 kills and got a mericless at the end of the game.
So honestly, Idk what the issue is, and thats me being like ash 2, I know not every game is going to be like that Ive been playing the game for 4 years, Ive played killer a bunch just not lately, Ive got the rank1 killer trophy on steam. But for me its all about having fun thats it.
People asking for NOED nerfs don't realize that without NOED, the kill rates would be far lower. Up to a point where killers are in for some heavy buffs.
Remember that with NOED, the kill rates are slightly below 50%.
I’ll take that offer
can i join as well
Alright then. I see your point and I'll respect it. Hope that you can also respect that I want to punish survivors for making dumb plays or to play catch up when I can't really defend gens as Legion.
Noed has been nerfed into what it is, it wasn't even a hex at one time kiddos. ;)
And that I understand, and I fully agree, what I don't agree with is killers who feel the need to camp and tunnel right from the start. Not even one gen done yet and dudes staring deeply into my eyes like he wants to eat my liver or something, that is the type of stuff that needs to go, or the fact that If I get unhooked (i have bt) they hit me with fellow survivors trying to take hits ect and they won't do it and just go straight after me until Im dead, thats the type of stuff that needs changed, I mean if they are planning on changing perks that are helpful to SOLO Q survivors then I think they need to come up with ways to punish killers (further more than losing some bp) for tunneling and camping. I solo q my survivor games 95-98% of the time, and lemme just say, it SUCKS.
Bring back old noed. Just for a weekend. Then when we go back to this version people will see how good they have it.
Doubt they are gonna touch noed as it's a factor that helps keeps the 2k kill ratio steady.
I don't see it often but it usually gets them 1k while the rest of us leave.
No, it's still fair.