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I really think the Hillbilly's instasaw should be looked at.

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  • Wolf74Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    "I know him… that's why I am here to support him, no matter what…"
    Did he call you for support? "Avenger assemble!"?^^
    Sometimes an echochamber needs a call to arms.

  • skvirlskvirl Member Posts: 92

    @Wolf74 said:
    "I know him… that's why I am here to support him, no matter what…"
    Did he call you for support? "Avenger assemble!"?^^
    Sometimes an echochamber needs a call to arms.

    I think you might need to remove your tin foil hat now XD

    I don't need to "support" him, I'm reading your comment, then saw you were wrong, and decided to tell you this. Also what's with the "no matter what"? Where do you come up with this? Contrary to many people on this forum, I don't blindly support someone because of who they are, but for what they say and do. In this instance, he is right and you are wrong. He is not a survivor main. What is your problem?

    Also, why won't you answer people's question about how you think instasaw is fair/balanced? You stated your opinion about it, but then refuse to elaborate to further discuss the topic..

  • Wolf74Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @ReneAensland said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @only1biggs said:
    Billy main here...Instasaw needs to be nerfed hard.

    Why do people keep posting that stupid "meme."

    Because it fits.

  • FoggyDownpourFoggyDownpour Member Posts: 289
    This conversation has become more of a fight about personal preferences towards other people. Maybe that stuff should be kept out of the thread and in pms? It's not doing any good to poke at each other and trying to get a rise out of them, especially while hiding behind thread content. This pissing contest isn't going to go anywhere good. Let's return to discussing instasaws without 'memes' or bm
  • FoggyDownpourFoggyDownpour Member Posts: 289
    I find instasaws rather fun to play against, they add variety and generally keep me on my toes. 
  • UnicornUnicorn Member Posts: 2,240

    @Wolf74 said:

    @only1biggs said:
    Billy main here...Instasaw needs to be nerfed hard.

    Why do people keep posting that stupid "meme."

    That and the over-used unoriginal "git gud" doctor one, I swear  I literally can't laugh at it anymore because everyone has abused the hell out of it. I've gotta create new memes for this community for the love of Fog.
  • benzosbenzos Member Posts: 178

    @FoggyDownpour said:
    This conversation has become more of a fight about personal preferences towards other people. Maybe that stuff should be kept out of the thread and in pms? It's not doing any good to poke at each other and trying to get a rise out of them, especially while hiding behind thread content. This pissing contest isn't going to go anywhere good. Let's return to discussing instasaws without 'memes' or bm

    it's ok to call out people for clarification and keeping on topic. it shows how some posters think and i think that's good bc you will have more meaningful presence on the forum instead of one that always has to use bm or memes.

  • benzosbenzos Member Posts: 178

    i think instasaws should be looked at but i don't know how it would change and what suggestions people could have to make it more fair. would ultra rare make it more fair?

  • friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @Chi said:
    I am expecting a lot of git gud and the likes for this but whatever.

    I can't be the only one who thinks that instasaw on Billy is just unfair and unfun to play against.

    nah he just needs his base movement speed decreased

  • WateryWatery Member Posts: 1,123
    Insta-saw Billy is really fun to play against IMO. Adds to the intensity of facing him.
  • friendlykillermainfriendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @ReneAensland said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @only1biggs said:
    Billy main here...Instasaw needs to be nerfed hard.

    Why do people keep posting that stupid "meme."

    because survivors go around masquerading as a proper killer main like yours truly

  • PiiFreePiiFree Member Posts: 1,149
    edited November 2018

    @ReneAensland said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @only1biggs said:
    Billy main here...Instasaw needs to be nerfed hard.

    Why do people keep posting that stupid "meme."

    STFU, it's always nice to see my own meme getting resurrected xD

    BTT: No, Billy chainsaw is not unfair, is not unfun (in fact it's incredibly fun) and no, it doesn't need to be looked at.

  • Wolf74Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @FujinRaijin said:
    @Wolf74 still waiting to hear why you think instasaw is fair btw

    You really try to bash on me with that question forever?
    Already answered. You just didn't liked it and ignored it.

  • WateryWatery Member Posts: 1,123
    Wolf74 said:

    @FujinRaijin said:
    @Wolf74 still waiting to hear why you think instasaw is fair btw

    You really try to bash on me with that question forever?
    Already answered. You just didn't liked it and ignored it.

    Exactly. Who even cares about Billy insta-saw? So what if it’s hard to play against? It doesn’t matter. If you can learn what the process of pallet looping is, maaaaybe, you’ll survive. Whoever made this post needs to get off their high horse, and grab a box of tissues.
  • only1biggsonly1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @Wolf74 said:

    @FujinRaijin said:
    @Wolf74 still waiting to hear why you think instasaw is fair btw

    You really try to bash on me with that question forever?
    Already answered. You just didn't liked it and ignored it.

    You didn't answer at all. You just kept ignoring it because you don't have a leg to stand on.

  • only1biggsonly1biggs Member Posts: 1,178

    @Watery said:
    Exactly. Who even cares about Billy insta-saw? So what if it’s hard to play against? It doesn’t matter. If you can learn what the process of pallet looping is, maaaaybe, you’ll survive. Whoever made this post needs to get off their high horse, and grab a box of tissues.

    Many people care about instasaw. The person who started this thread for instance. The people who have agreed.

    But sure, who cares right? Imagine that same mentality for anything in the game -.-

  • PiiFreePiiFree Member Posts: 1,149

    @only1biggs said:

    @Watery said:
    Exactly. Who even cares about Billy insta-saw? So what if it’s hard to play against? It doesn’t matter. If you can learn what the process of pallet looping is, maaaaybe, you’ll survive. Whoever made this post needs to get off their high horse, and grab a box of tissues.

    Many people care about instasaw. The person who started this thread for instance. The people who have agreed.

    But sure, who cares right? Imagine that same mentality for anything in the game -.-

    What exactly are you talking about when you say "instasaw". Are you talking about the basic chainsaw hit that instantly downs you or are you talking about the fast-charged saw that people like to refer to as "instasaw" - which btw requires 2 add-ons?

    His basic chainsaw can be avoided quite easily at the cost of an M1 hit - which is still ALWAYS better than getting instantly chainsawed. I quite often chase survivors that vault a window or drop a pallet and then mindlessly run out in the open where they have no way to juke the chainsaw. No windows, no pallets, no nothing.

    Smart survivors would just try to bait an M1 hit to get the speed boost that allows them to reach the next pallet or window. Unfortunately, even in Rank 1 I only rarely see survivors that think this far (I'm saying that as Billy main, Survivors do make it way too easy for me sometimes)

  • only1biggsonly1biggs Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2018

    @PiiFree said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @Watery said:
    Exactly. Who even cares about Billy insta-saw? So what if it’s hard to play against? It doesn’t matter. If you can learn what the process of pallet looping is, maaaaybe, you’ll survive. Whoever made this post needs to get off their high horse, and grab a box of tissues.

    Many people care about instasaw. The person who started this thread for instance. The people who have agreed.

    But sure, who cares right? Imagine that same mentality for anything in the game -.-

    What exactly are you talking about when you say "instasaw". Are you talking about the basic chainsaw hit that instantly downs you or are you talking about the fast-charged saw that people like to refer to as "instasaw" - which btw requires 2 add-ons?

    His basic chainsaw can be avoided quite easily at the cost of an M1 hit - which is still ALWAYS better than getting instantly chainsawed. I quite often chase survivors that vault a window or drop a pallet and then mindlessly run out in the open where they have no way to juke the chainsaw. No windows, no pallets, no nothing.

    Smart survivors would just try to bait an M1 hit to get the speed boost that allows them to reach the next pallet or window. Unfortunately, even in Rank 1 I only rarely see survivors that think this far (I'm saying that as Billy main, Survivors do make it way too easy for me sometimes)

    I think you know exactly what "instasaw" means, if you consider yourself a billy main. Yeah, the two add ons that when combined are insane (thompsons/carb tuning guide). Instasaw. I main billy and don't use many addons, but I wouldn't use instasaw unless I saw 4 toolboxes and even then I'd feel dirty about doing it.

  • WateryWatery Member Posts: 1,123
    PiiFree said:

    @only1biggs said:

    @Watery said:
    Exactly. Who even cares about Billy insta-saw? So what if it’s hard to play against? It doesn’t matter. If you can learn what the process of pallet looping is, maaaaybe, you’ll survive. Whoever made this post needs to get off their high horse, and grab a box of tissues.

    Many people care about instasaw. The person who started this thread for instance. The people who have agreed.

    But sure, who cares right? Imagine that same mentality for anything in the game -.-

    What exactly are you talking about when you say "instasaw". Are you talking about the basic chainsaw hit that instantly downs you or are you talking about the fast-charged saw that people like to refer to as "instasaw" - which btw requires 2 add-ons?

    His basic chainsaw can be avoided quite easily at the cost of an M1 hit - which is still ALWAYS better than getting instantly chainsawed. I quite often chase survivors that vault a window or drop a pallet and then mindlessly run out in the open where they have no way to juke the chainsaw. No windows, no pallets, no nothing.

    Smart survivors would just try to bait an M1 hit to get the speed boost that allows them to reach the next pallet or window. Unfortunately, even in Rank 1 I only rarely see survivors that think this far (I'm saying that as Billy main, Survivors do make it way too easy for me sometimes)

    That’s the point. The insta-saw which is .5 seconds, actually, and is only ran with specific add-ons [to which I don’t know the name of due to the fact I don’t play Billy]is what I was referring to. I myself am of relatively high rank (though, if I’m being blatantly honest, I don’t like it as much), I do see where you’re coming from though. I probably shoulda been more specific.
  • DarkWo1f997DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    It was looked at, found that it did its job in a fair and balanced manor, and was therefore left alone. 
  • douggie123douggie123 Member Posts: 1,309

    @EntityDispleased said:
    Decisive strikes and insta heals are also unfair and unfun to play against.

    On the contrary.
    No they're not. I count to 10 whenever I get Decisive Striked and they're down.
    If you don't get them down in 10 seconds or less, I'm sorry but you're a terrible killer.

    I'm not bashing on anyone, but I've never had a problem with DS, it gives them at most 7 seconds of extra life and that's it.

    Now as for Billy, I wouldn't want a Nerf but I've been saying, stop allowing 1 Shot Killers to carry NOED.

    Err nope. Because when I play Billy I don't always use his saw unless I really need to so noed helps me with that.
  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @AnthonyC2014 said:

    @Chi said:
    I am expecting a lot of git gud and the likes for this but whatever.

    I can't be the only one who thinks that instasaw on Billy is just unfair and unfun to play against.

    Just play as Laurie. She has a tiny hitbox and is easier to use to dodge him. Better yet, just use something like Decisive Strike, or drop pallets.

    Wait is her hitbox actually tiny? Holy #########

  • LegacyofKainLegacyofKain Member Posts: 5
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cz8CYXQWXL4

    Yeah... quick saw REALLY helped this Billy. Totally wrecked me, my friend, and the two randoms. *insert obvious but sadly needed sarcasm warning*

    Fact is, Quick saw doesn’t do crap if you know what you’re doing as a Survivor and anticipate it. 

    Getting really sick sick and tired of Survivors trying to get every useful add on or add on combo nerfed into the ground because they are incompetent. 

    Btw : I call it quick saw because insta saw doesn’t exist anymore. After they changed Tinkerer to not give a 10% bonus to adds. 
  • redsopine01redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    He takes skill someone tries to 360 dodge let go and turn but it's the timing you.need
  • Wolf74Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @only1biggs said:

    @Wolf74 said:

    @FujinRaijin said:
    @Wolf74 still waiting to hear why you think instasaw is fair btw

    You really try to bash on me with that question forever?
    Already answered. You just didn't liked it and ignored it.

    You didn't answer at all. You just kept ignoring it because you don't have a leg to stand on.

    By now it is beyond fun. Stop lying.

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