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Legion is the new worst killer in DBD

Most loopable killer in the game, cannot down people with his power unless you use Frank's Mix Tape (a purple add-on by the way, and still need to hit people 3 times with it), mending not being a healing action ruins any good perk builds you can make, the power doesn't recharge fast enough and doesn't last long enough, too slow to chase people without his power, do I need to go on? This killer is a joke, nobody's afraid of them. This killer is a literal door mat even for the worst of survivors. Even at what this killer is supposedly good at (injuring multiple people at once), it does nothing in the long run since good survivors always split up. This is a terribly designed killer and nobody should spend money on them.

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  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    Hear ye, Hear ye, water is wet.

  • AzakuraAzakura Member Posts: 67
    His changes have made him pretty formidable, I've played 6 games with him and gotten all 4 killed before they get more then 2 gens done. Have the screenshots for proof. Its a mistake to use his ability for kills, just like it is with the Pig. His ability gives the survivors something else to distract them from gens, on top of that you can hear them mending/being injured. Add sloppy butcher and you're easily tracking down the whole enemy team while they barely can mend themselves in time.

    Every killer takes a little time to learn how to play properly.
  • DehitayDehitay Member Posts: 1,511

    When you start your post by saying the most difficult killer to loop is the most loopable killer in the game, you kind of invalidate any credibility. Saying he's the most difficult killer to down survivors with would have made sense. But the most loopable killer? Obvious close minded bias is obvious.

  • Maximus7Maximus7 Member Posts: 443

    @Dehitay said:
    When you start your post by saying the most difficult killer to loop is the most loopable killer in the game, you kind of invalidate any credibility. Saying he's the most difficult killer to down survivors with would have made sense. But the most loopable killer? Obvious close minded bias is obvious.

    How is he not? His power doesn't down, so you have to chase without your power at 110. You won't catch any good survivor with that slow movement speed.

  • DehitayDehitay Member Posts: 1,511

    @Maximus7 said:

    @Dehitay said:
    When you start your post by saying the most difficult killer to loop is the most loopable killer in the game, you kind of invalidate any credibility. Saying he's the most difficult killer to down survivors with would have made sense. But the most loopable killer? Obvious close minded bias is obvious.

    How is he not? His power doesn't down, so you have to chase without your power at 110. You won't catch any good survivor with that slow movement speed.

    Because he invalidates the gap increasing from pallets and windows. Doesn't matter how crap he is at downing survivors. He still counters looping better than any other killer except maybe Nurse. You wouldn't say cheetas are slow because they can't fly. Likewise, it doesn't matter that they can't fly; they can run fast as hell.

  • DehitayDehitay Member Posts: 1,511

    @Blueberry said:

    Ignoring pallets and windows to stab someone a lot for free also is pretty meaningless if what you're stabbing them with is a rubber spoon.

    Which is why it makes perfect sense to say he's horrible at downing survivors, but still completely illogical to say he's the most loopable killer in the game.

  • UltimateHit47UltimateHit47 Member Posts: 45

    I know I’m used to Freddy and he was my main before Spirit, so this might be a bit biased but: he is definitely weaker than Freddy. He feels like he’s been nerfed since the PTB, that frenzy is so short it’s unreal.

  • SoronithSoronith Member Posts: 4

    All i hear is a bunch of babies crying because they dont have an M1 power killer or another billy, learn to play the killer instead of crying because your bad, deep wounds is meant to slow them down they need to heal it before doing anything, and then pick 1 survivor with deep wounds and slalk them, use perks so you can hear the survivors like stridor and increase your terror radiuis so they dont think they are safe, wait til the deep wounds is low enough and use frenzy to down them or let them fall cos they wont be able to mend knowing your stalking them, seriously, think about the power and stop cring becausew you have to work for your 4ks

  • SoronithSoronith Member Posts: 4

    and the changes on live are much better than ptb, deep wounds going down while mending, not overshooting pallets, longer lunge, and no double stun meaning you can chase more with frenzy, so either you cant read or refuse to learn the changes and adapt

  • OakLestatOakLestat Member Posts: 125

    I would disagree. Legion is Mid-Tier and very fun to play. I am as competitive as they come, but that doesn't mean that "Sweaty" has to be the Meta for every game. I am only a few games in with this iteration of Legion but so far most of my games are 3 and 4k. Right about Pig level but with better Gen Pressure.

  • PigMainBigBrainPigMainBigBrain Member Posts: 710
    edited December 2018

    @Dwight_Confusion said:
    I think we're all jumping the gun a bit.

    I mean he's very different, and average at best, but lets not act like he's the very worst killer ever and trash?

    I mean... think about it.

    I'm still very much undecided myself. I think he falls in that mid range. Or low mid. Around Pig/Leatherface... somewhere in that.

    Again... 4 hours past release... it's tough to say.

    What I would do is this...

    give him 4.5 ms movement speed. (112%?)

    Give his frenzy a slight longer duration by like 3 seconds. I think this really helps it. The design is great... just the core things might be weaker or off a bit.

    I love the title, the music... the looks... the map... the perks, the names... the ideas.

    The timing of his power isn't an issue at all. The cooldown, duration, speed, none of that matters cause without those add ons the power is still damn good, so good you don't even need most of those time add ons. He's not like the spirits initial release where you NEED NEEDED her power timer add ons or you'd get rekt. Thats not his issue, his issue is that even if you do use your power.....what then? There's no real risk for the survivor unless you tunnel them, you can't break away and chase other targets while the others are bleeding out they will just mend while you're chasing someone else, and as you're chasing that other person you can't even down them because the timer doesn't move while you're chasing them.......So you can't use your power to end the chase without being stunned repeatedly, and at best you can start the chase with it and then chase them with 110% speed and get looped for days.

    Hag is set to this same speed, but at least she can teleport. Bunny mom is also the same speed, but at least her hatchets can down you. This group of legion though.....all bark and no bite...

  • Maximus7Maximus7 Member Posts: 443
    ScottJund made a good post in General about how unfun he is for both sides that sums up my thoughts on his fundamentally terrible design. Tunneling one person to death with your power isn't fun, and neither is losing every chase without your power.
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