Are the legion the most evil?

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  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161

    Michael Myers is literally described as just pure evil. Frankie is the most evil out of all of them, and Susie is the least evil, because of her I would say they are not the most. But I would bet my left one on saying Michael is. The most evil unlicensed killer though, would have to be either Billy or Hag.

    Lol I love how he just said Myers was an UNLICENSED killer
  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161
    Dehitay said:

    Legion has got to be the least evil of killers. Their lore was clearly a rushed effort cause if you think of how the entity operates, it makes absolutely no sense for it to take them into the fog. They killed all of one person and it was because they a mistake, not cause they were looking for a kill. Joe and Susie didn't even really want to do it. Julie's intentions were more of a do it for Frank mentality than a bloodlust. Frank is the only one who I would even consider worthy of the entity's consideration, but it took them all for reasons that don't fit the entity's mentality.

    Actually lore state that for the most part the entity like killers it could twist to killing meaning it can.guide events to where people you'd never expect to kill to do it. The entity chose those 4
  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161

    @xmenfanatic said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @xmenfanatic said:

    @The_Trapper said:
    Michael Myers is literally described as just pure evil. Frankie is the most evil out of all of them, and Susie is the least evil, because of her I would say they are not the most. But I would bet my left one on saying Michael is. The most evil unlicensed killer though, would have to be either Billy or Hag.

    The vibe I’ve gotten from Susie’s description and how the devs have spoken about he rand Legion in the Making of, I feel like they were saying Susie is evil and the Legion is all about any imaginable person having that potential. Susie is the nerdy crazy girl who seems sweet but in the end actually holds psychotic tendencies.

    She struck me as the nerdy girl, but her story said she was the most reluctant to stab the janitor, Frank forced her knife to stab him. The Legion art also showed Susie had the fewest kills by far. Before I forget. Susie's animations show her to look like she herself is scared and reluctant.

    EDIT: Compare her animations to Frank or Joe's, Joe acts like it no longer really bothers him, Frank acts like he almost enjoys it a little.

    I totally got that nerdy vibe from her too. I believe they described her as the nerdy weird girl. So I imagine someone eccentric but intelligent. I think she definitely has this sweet image to her that makes the irony of her personable demeanor being a guide to her truly more corrupt core. I think we was a sweetheart/kinder character, and I don’t think all of them would kill if given the choice. But I also think the entity would only choose people who are capable of being driven to that point or having been.

    I remember how the entity was actually going for Rin’s Father as a killer, and when it sensed the drive for revenge it chose Rin instead to be a killer and dawn the mantle of the Spirit.

    I think it would be cool to get a survivor who was a killer. And I think Susie could be a potential contender for that. She’s the most popular of the Legion, and it would be an interesting parallel. She would be the first person pulled in with the intention of being a killer, and struggling as survivor. It would imply she succumbed as a survivor and eventually took on the role of killer. I think it was add some tragedy to her story, and a reminder that all survivors eventually succumb.

    I personally think Joey is the most popular of the four, purely based on his clothing. It is by far the coolest in my opinion, but we don't really know that much about Joey as a person.

    We know the reason why most killers kill, Leatherface does it out of fear, Billy does it because he loves it. Myers does it because he is pure evil.

    Why do Legion do it? Frank probably enjoys it, Julie doesn't really care, I don't know about Joey but Susie probably does it out of fear, perhaps fear that if the survivors get away they will tell the police about the murder of the janitor. The Entity could easily whisper that thought into their heads, there are multiple possibilities.

    THANK YOU. Why the f#ck does every one call him f#ucking joe? Seriously it is JOEY he would prefer that name (coming from someone in a similar situation of wrong @ss names). But seriously as soon as i knew they named one of them joey I was like man I gotta get my hand on my game counter part, and then i saw the out fit and was like thank the god of develepers for bestowing upon ours this magnificent creation.
  • MilordMilord Member Posts: 66

    @xmenfanatic said:

    @The_Trapper said:

    @xmenfanatic said:

    @The_Trapper said:
    Michael Myers is literally described as just pure evil. Frankie is the most evil out of all of them, and Susie is the least evil, because of her I would say they are not the most. But I would bet my left one on saying Michael is. The most evil unlicensed killer though, would have to be either Billy or Hag.

    The vibe I’ve gotten from Susie’s description and how the devs have spoken about he rand Legion in the Making of, I feel like they were saying Susie is evil and the Legion is all about any imaginable person having that potential. Susie is the nerdy crazy girl who seems sweet but in the end actually holds psychotic tendencies.

    She struck me as the nerdy girl, but her story said she was the most reluctant to stab the janitor, Frank forced her knife to stab him. The Legion art also showed Susie had the fewest kills by far. Before I forget. Susie's animations show her to look like she herself is scared and reluctant.

    EDIT: Compare her animations to Frank or Joe's, Joe acts like it no longer really bothers him, Frank acts like he almost enjoys it a little.

    I totally got that nerdy vibe from her too. I believe they described her as the nerdy weird girl. So I imagine someone eccentric but intelligent. I think she definitely has this sweet image to her that makes the irony of her personable demeanor being a guide to her truly more corrupt core. I think we was a sweetheart/kinder character, and I don’t think all of them would kill if given the choice. But I also think the entity would only choose people who are capable of being driven to that point or having been.

    I remember how the entity was actually going for Rin’s Father as a killer, and when it sensed the drive for revenge it chose Rin instead to be a killer and dawn the mantle of the Spirit.

    I think it would be cool to get a survivor who was a killer. And I think Susie could be a potential contender for that. She’s the most popular of the Legion, and it would be an interesting parallel. She would be the first person pulled in with the intention of being a killer, and struggling as survivor. It would imply she succumbed as a survivor and eventually took on the role of killer. I think it was add some tragedy to her story, and a reminder that all survivors eventually succumb.

    I personally think Joey is the most popular of the four, purely based on his clothing. It is by far the coolest in my opinion, but we don't really know that much about Joey as a person.

    We know the reason why most killers kill, Leatherface does it out of fear, Billy does it because he loves it. Myers does it because he is pure evil.

    Why do Legion do it? Frank probably enjoys it, Julie doesn't really care, I don't know about Joey but Susie probably does it out of fear, perhaps fear that if the survivors get away they will tell the police about the murder of the janitor. The Entity could easily whisper that thought into their heads, there are multiple possibilities.

    THANK YOU. Why the f#ck does every one call him f#ucking joe? Seriously it is JOEY he would prefer that name (coming from someone in a similar situation of wrong @ss names). But seriously as soon as i knew they named one of them joey I was like man I gotta get my hand on my game counter part, and then i saw the out fit and was like thank the god of develepers for bestowing upon ours this magnificent creation.
    And yet we only have 1 Joey outfit. I hope we'll see more of him soon. Really loving his posture (and I have a feeling he's slightly hunky).
  • TrueKn1ghtmar3TrueKn1ghtmar3 Member Posts: 161
    Milord said:
    And yet we only have 1 Joey outfit. I hope we'll see more of him soon. Really loving his posture (and I have a feeling he's slightly hunky).
    Let me tell you all us Joeys are hunky just ask my fiancee, and yea probably a few spikes to go with cause you know joey strait up punk lol. A red skull mask would be awesome and a reverse color of his current mask.
  • RattmanRattman Member Posts: 484

    There was a theory about Doctor - at the very end of his story it says that wounds on bodies which were found suggest that he searched panacea from mind control. So, he realised that he encountered something evil, which could control his mind. And he tried to struggle, tried to find medicine. And also, some of the addons says that he created alternative ways of treatment in fog - after he was transfered to Entity realm. So, what Iam trying to say, maybe he believed what he still able to bent his mind to his will, he still able to continue his research in Entity's realm. Unfortunatelly, Entity just corrupted him too much and he gone too crazy. Dat irony tho - Entity won in Doctor's own playground.
    So, evil - maybe not the most correct word here. i'd say corrupted (not only by Entity, but also by his mentor). And, probably, way too much liking his job.

  • NoodleLegsNoodleLegs Member Posts: 60
    edited January 8
    Okie dokie, hi, let's break this down. Evan does have torture, I actually think he also trapped himself in with his workers (i reread the backstory and it implied something along those lines). Max is majorly deformed, then was isolated, that could do wonders for a child's mental stability. Now, we have Philip, he killed by rage, he was distraught in finding he accidently-purposely killed people, he killed his boss out of rage. Sally, i think it was a mental hospital? Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but she probably couldn't handle it anymore. Her husband died and the working at the asylum for 2 (?) decades caused her to snap. Lisa really didn't have a choice, it was either eat or be eaten. She already had potential to be a killer, as she DIDN'T die from being EATEN and being malnourished and dehydrated. Her sleep probably wasn't good either. She should be dead is what I'm saying. Now, Herman I'm so-so about. He did kill a lot of people while working on his own for a few months (right?), however, he does have clear signs of torture, nowhere does it say he did that to himself, and besides Jeff the Killer, no one would do that to themselves, insane or not. Anna, she knows somewhat that killing is wrong. However, the only adult she's ever known was her mother, and her mother taught her to hunt. However, she does have a deep maternal instinct. Michael Myers, not a sadist in any way, he just kills to kill, and nothing will stop him. Freddy, I didn't watch the Nightmare on Elm Street, through I did read his backstory and my mother did confirm he was a child predator. Scary. Amanda, I didn't see the Saw movies, however I know she had a drug problem (I think, this is from memory), and John was like her... way out I guess. She started making traps that were unsolvable because she believed that no one can change. Jeffrey (Kenneth?) is a psychopath. He has the symptoms of one from a young boy, and he's a sadist to add on that. He's a sadist shown by the fact he keeps fingers on a keyring, trophies from his victims, that's 100% creepy kay, if I were murdered, at least let me keep my limbs. Bubba, he kills to protect his family, but I also didn't watch those movies so... Now, Rin, 100% vengeance. Okay, Legion, yay, Frank has feelings, he does. He's not a sexual sadist, he loves his friends a lot, him stabbing the cleaner was a flight or fight response. He didn't know if the cleaner was going to hurt Julie or not. Julie is clearly Frank's second-in-command or something similar, she'll do whatever Frank says. Joey is a follower, however he probably didn't like Frank yelling at Susie for defying him, probably throught that was a low move, even for him. Susie, she's been manipulated this far, however, she still's able to make her own decisions, at an extent, though. She said no to Frank, however Frank has a temper problem shown by earlier in the writing that he lashed out at foster families. He only stopped because he gained a crush on Julie. That's literally why. Anyways, everything will go Frank's way. That's why Susie won't be a survivor, Frank wouldn't let her. I love them honestly, however I don't mind telling them off. Susie may be innocent, but that Susie is long gone, she's only a shell of her humanity. With Frank and the Entity around, she won't be a survivor. She has the potential to, however, she'll also leave her best friend, Julie.

    Anyways, Legion aint even the top 10 of your problems. Michael wouldn't even be top 10, he strikes once a year lol. Anyways, correct me if im wrong ANYWHERE, please.
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  • PigNRunPigNRun Member Posts: 798

    @NoodleLegs
    The only part I disagree with is Joey giving 0 craps, if you mean he is an edgy teen or whatever. He does follow Frank willingly and loyally, probably because of his own insecurity. He is a follower type person, those typical characters from movies who follow the popular ones and back up anything they do.

  • NoodleLegsNoodleLegs Member Posts: 60
    @PigNRun

    I really didn't know what to write for Joey since he's mentioned less, I guess, but I completely agree.

    I feel like I should say this, I'm 14, watched 12 1/2 seasons of Criminal Minds, has a sister studying psychology and I want to do a course of psychology in a few years.
  • Mrrgle_the_MediocreMrrgle_the_Mediocre Member Posts: 273

    @PigNRun said:

    @Justicar said:
    The's Shape's ability is literally called Evil Within.

    Yet its not called "The Most Evil Within". Feels more like... Lesser Evil Within.

    Petition to rename Evil Within to The Most Evil Within.

  • Mrrgle_the_MediocreMrrgle_the_Mediocre Member Posts: 273

    @Jackard said:
    Some of you seem to be a bit confused as to the original topic. Most of the killers we're predisposed to murder in one way or another but that is different than killing for the entity. As far as I know the clown is the only non licensed killer that had no intervention of any kind to do the entity's bidding. (Other than the legion... Seemingly)

    Yeah, it just kind of said that the Clown appeared, and he continued doing what he always did immediately.

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 369

    @NoodleLegs

    I partially agree with your post except for Evan. As stated from the Dvs:

    47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?

    "Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."

    "They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."

  • NoodleLegsNoodleLegs Member Posts: 60

    @Shad03
    Thank you, I didn't realize that.

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 369

    @NoodleLegs
    No problem. -Feral Frenzies away-

  • NoodleLegsNoodleLegs Member Posts: 60
    @Shad03
    it's hard keeping a straight face with a comment like that
  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 369

    @NoodleLegs said:
    @Shad03
    it's hard keeping a straight face with a comment like that

    :p

  • SadonicShadowSadonicShadow Member Posts: 858

    Evil is a subjective matter. One persons definition of evil is another mans definition of good. In my honest opinion Doctor Herman Carter is by far the most evil and wicked being in the DBD roster. Most of the killers in this game barring the licensed ones are a product of tragedy. Something truly horrific or tragic they experienced in their life is what made them snap and turn into monsters.
    Evan Macmillan worked himself to death and the stress of his position broke his mind. Max Thompson Jr. since birth grew up in a small, dark bricked off room and was fed through a hole turning him into a feral human with no understanding on how to socialize or behave. Sally snapped after decades of abuse at a deadend job, etc.
    The Doctor however driven in his quest to explore and understand the mind disregarded any and all ethical practices in his pursuit of knowledge. He is essentially a modern Josef Mengele with his diabolical experiments and torture.

  • Divinitye9Divinitye9 Member Posts: 91
    Myers would be the most evil killer. Most serial killers, including this game, have had a purpose or reason for their heinous acts. Be it for sport, entertainment, sexual gratification, self defense, or a dog told them to do it, there is generally some reason to them.

    Myers has no reason. He simply murders just to do so. This also discounts the curse garbage from the movies and rob zombies take on the character. 

    Most evil non licensed it the Trapper. He would do literally anything for his father, and slaughtering the miners was something he had no problem doing. He probably developed a taste for it along the way. 
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