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There was a theory about Doctor - at the very end of his story it says that wounds on bodies which were found suggest that he searched panacea from mind control. So, he realised that he encountered something evil, which could control his mind. And he tried to struggle, tried to find medicine. And also, some of the addons says that he created alternative ways of treatment in fog - after he was transfered to Entity realm. So, what Iam trying to say, maybe he believed what he still able to bent his mind to his will, he still able to continue his research in Entity's realm. Unfortunatelly, Entity just corrupted him too much and he gone too crazy. Dat irony tho - Entity won in Doctor's own playground.
So, evil - maybe not the most correct word here. i'd say corrupted (not only by Entity, but also by his mentor). And, probably, way too much liking his job.
Anyways, Legion aint even the top 10 of your problems. Michael wouldn't even be top 10, he strikes once a year lol. Anyways, correct me if im wrong ANYWHERE, please.
@NoodleLegs
The only part I disagree with is Joey giving 0 craps, if you mean he is an edgy teen or whatever. He does follow Frank willingly and loyally, probably because of his own insecurity. He is a follower type person, those typical characters from movies who follow the popular ones and back up anything they do.
I really didn't know what to write for Joey since he's mentioned less, I guess, but I completely agree.
I feel like I should say this, I'm 14, watched 12 1/2 seasons of Criminal Minds, has a sister studying psychology and I want to do a course of psychology in a few years.
Petition to rename Evil Within to The Most Evil Within.
Yeah, it just kind of said that the Clown appeared, and he continued doing what he always did immediately.
@NoodleLegs
I partially agree with your post except for Evan. As stated from the Dvs:
47- WHY DID THE DOCTOR PRY HIS MOUTH AND EYES OPEN?
"Oh, no no no no, that's not how it works. Evan did not put the iron bars and hooks into his shoulder, and Sally did not choke herself with a pillowcase."
"They are not responsible for the unpleasant things that are happening to them."
@Shad03
Thank you, I didn't realize that.
@NoodleLegs
No problem. -Feral Frenzies away-
it's hard keeping a straight face with a comment like that
Evil is a subjective matter. One persons definition of evil is another mans definition of good. In my honest opinion Doctor Herman Carter is by far the most evil and wicked being in the DBD roster. Most of the killers in this game barring the licensed ones are a product of tragedy. Something truly horrific or tragic they experienced in their life is what made them snap and turn into monsters.
Evan Macmillan worked himself to death and the stress of his position broke his mind. Max Thompson Jr. since birth grew up in a small, dark bricked off room and was fed through a hole turning him into a feral human with no understanding on how to socialize or behave. Sally snapped after decades of abuse at a deadend job, etc.
The Doctor however driven in his quest to explore and understand the mind disregarded any and all ethical practices in his pursuit of knowledge. He is essentially a modern Josef Mengele with his diabolical experiments and torture.
Myers has no reason. He simply murders just to do so. This also discounts the curse garbage from the movies and rob zombies take on the character.
Most evil non licensed it the Trapper. He would do literally anything for his father, and slaughtering the miners was something he had no problem doing. He probably developed a taste for it along the way.
Who killed the most people to enter the realm?
Evan apparently. 200 (Or more) People, dead.
that means Evan is the most evil, in the lore you are more susceptible to the entity, the more you kill, the more susceptible to the entity you are
Except for Rin, she was cut up. The Entity saw an opportunity and took her instead.
Side note, why is Amanda the only female killer with 115 movement?
yeah, and it was the zalgo thing and I swear I regret everything, but amanda is shorter than the others and rin is wounded
This is definitely untrue. It's generally accepted that any original character that either was A)) physically warped by the entity, and/or
) was given an otherworldly power by the entity was tortured into killing.
Philip Ojomo- You can tell by his wooden skin and voice, as well as his obvious reluctance to killing, as well as his ability being completely entity-fueled, that he was horribly tortured by the entity, probably the most of them all.
Sally Smithson- Hers is a little vague, but I think she was tortured. The murders she commited in life were done as a mercy to tortured mentally ill people, her power is definitely given by the entity, and the devs confirmed she feels pain whenever she uses it. She doesn't want to torture, as the entity's realm does, she wants to mercy kill. If she actually killed the survivors, they would be free of pain, given mercy by her hand. I don't think she would at all willingly go along with an extensive torture session by the entity.
Evan MacMillan- This is an odd one. The only real evidence we have for his torture are his backstory and looks. He is very obviously scarred; steel sticking out of his body, heavy scars, and the fact that in his lore he originally never wanted to kill, but was forced to by his father. I think the entity played the same role, as the entity does with many killers (think bubba).
Herman Carter- This is the one I've seen the most disagreement with. I don't think he was tortured at all. As the entity does, I think it assumed the role of Stamper with the CIA, where they gifted him boundless devices to use however he felt on his victims. In his lore, near the end of his natural life, he had been very very focused on learning the secrets of mind control in his shock victims. I think that the entity's world is just his own institution, free reign to torture his subjects and then study its affects and their reactions. His appearance is... garish, and suggesting he was tortured, but I think near the end of his natural life he inflicted that upon himself in order to study first hand the effects and effectiveness of his methods. Best way to summarize it from his point of view, "To understand it, I have to experience it".
Here's what I think about which who and what killers were tortured by the entity. It's generally accepted that any killer with garish physical deformities and/or supernatural powers were tortured into killing. The entity also often assumes the role of abusers in a killer's natural life, in order to coerce them easily into killing.
Philip Ojomo- The most obvious one; his skin is woody and his voice is harsh. As a person, he only accidentally killed an innocent in his life and then did good by killing those who forced him to kill. He can't do that with the entity, but it can force his hand. He was given a power that connects in no way to his life with the bell, and you can clearly see both his reluctance and his torture.
Evan MacMillan- As the entity does, it assumed the role of his father, torturing him until he started killing again. He never wanted to be a mass murderer, but his father, and the entity, really did. You can see the clear wounds on him; the steel sticking out of his body, and his numerous scars.
Sally Smithson- Probably tortured. 1) She doesn't enjoy torture, she only kills as a mercy for those going through great suffering (like with the mentally ill patients of the asylum). I think she definitely did not willingly choose to adhere to the entity's demands, because instead of mercy killing she is just straight up participating in a continuous, infinite torture spree where both her and the survivors find no escape. 2) Her power is definitely unnatural. Not only does it not connect to her natural life, the devs confirmed she feels great pain whenever she uses it.
Herman Carter- This is my most widely disputed topic, but I don't think the doctor was tortured in the slightest. In his life, he willingly went above and beyond to research the effects of over-extensive electro-shock therapy on unwilling subjects. As his lore states, before he was taken, he was studying the effects of est to potentially induce mind control. The entity here acts Stamper and the CIA, gifting him endless tools so that he could continue serving their goals. The entity specifically beefed his shocks up in an unnatural way, and you can tell by his voice in game that he takes great delight in the game, giggling every moment. The "wounds" on his face I think are self inflicted, in that, "you can only know it if you've experienced it", probably self inflicting shock therapy in order to study first-hand its effects on the mind.
That's the way I see it. I think there's some argument that max thompson may have been tortured, but I think he is completely deranged and socio/psychopathic with no regard but pleasure in other's torture. I don't think he took much convincing.
i think Myers does get something out of it. the way he tilts his head and sets up things to scare his victims (like when he laid out a body in front of Judith's tombstone on a bed or from the new film where he makes a jack-o-lantern out of a human head). if he got nothing from it then there would be no point in him doing it. if he didn't care he wouldn't wear a mask, he wouldn't admire his kills and he wouldn't go out of his way to scare people. at least i think so anyway.
The Wraith doesn't look like he was tortured at all only a little part of his head looks weird but nothing else suggests he was physically tortured I would rather say the Entity somehow convinced him to start killing or tortured him mentally but he definetly got altered by the entity in some way if we look at his eyes or the wooden looking things from his head.
The Nurse was a broken woman and mentally instable there was no real reason to torture her into submission also the wiki says this "According to the Developers, The Nurse, at the point of having strangled the Asylum patient, was "bat-shit crazy" and thus more susceptible to The Entity's corruption."
The Trapper was also tortured confirmed by the developers themselves in their streams
The Doctor vanished after he massacred everyone at the institution so he either made himself look like he does in game before he got taken or the Entity made him look like that by torture
First i would say that the electrical wires that go through his body are unlikely to be done by himself as this would be almost impossible to do to by yourself and there was no person that would ever help him do something this strange, also from his head cosmetic which reads "Strapped in his electroconvulsive gear the Doctor is forever forced in a maniacal grin." which suggest that he isn't wearing it because he wants to.
His eyes are also not normal and the description of his Power says: "Is it a gift or a curse? The Entity has ignited a corrupted and inexhaustible spark in the Doctors heart" what further suggests the Entity that the Entity tortured him with the things he had done to others. The possibility could be there that he received it as a "gift" but looking at all this evidence it is more likely he got tortured.
Is it evil to kill for pleasure? Or is it insanity?
My view of evil is that it is the exact reverse of unconditional love. Evil is selfless. Where the one committing the evil acts get nothing out of it, but they do it purely out of the intent to inflict misery on someone else, even at the cost of making themself miserable in the process. Self sacrifice in order to cause pain on someone else, without getting any satisfaction or pleasure in it yourself.
That being said: who is the most evil killer? I would argue there are multiple candidates. Spirit, Nurse, Micheal. These three don't seem to take any pleasure in killing. They do it purely out of compulsion or malice. They harm others simply for the sake of causing harm to others. Like a force of nature. Indiscriminate and driven by cold, uncaring processes.