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Nobody mentions that Adrenaline is actually more broken than DS

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  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.

    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826

    @Vietfox said:
    @GodDamn_Angela said:

    Is it? I don't think DS is broken, at all, but I don't think Adrenaline is either. It's my fault if I let them get away just because of Adrenaline.

    Finally some common sense. It's weird because i almost never use DS and here i am defending DS everywhere in the forum, simply because i don't get what's the big deal with that perk. I've run it and i've had to face it as well.
    One time use perks and endgame perks are a NO NO for me because i feel capped, the only one i like and use from time to time is Adrenaline, but Iron Will seems to work better for me. 
    As i said in another thread, i find Resilience stronger than DS.

    I haven't even leveled Laurie because I have no interest in DS. I don't like one use or Endgame perks. And Adrenaline is both. I run NOED on some Killers, but that's literally the only one I use at all. I like Perks that I can get more use out of throughout the trial.

    Its a personal choice and I understand other people like end game perks. Adrenaline is just not a perk I want to use because like 60% of the time its not needed to, even slightly, help me survive. Or I'm already dead. The other 40% is mostly times it could help me survive but isn't necessarily needed.

    Adrenaline only activates once, at the end of the Trial, so it needs to be "strong".

    @GodDamn_Angela
    I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
    I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
    I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
    If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly :D
  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.

    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)
  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 473

    @Vietfox said:
    I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
    I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
    I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
    If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly :dizzy:

    Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.

    I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol :'(

    I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.

  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.

    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826

    @Vietfox said:
    I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.
    I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.
    I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.
    If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly :dizzy:

    Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.

    I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol :'(

    I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.

    @GodDamn_Angela
    Noed is a win win for the killer imo.
    They dont cleanse totems? Free instadowns
    They do? They didnt genrush
  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826
    edited December 2018

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.

    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
    Edit: quite a few times
  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 473

    @Vietfox said:
    GodDamn_Angela said:

    @Vietfox said:

    I know it's stupid and dont know if happens the same to anyone else but kinda bothers me when adrenaline kicks in and i'm not injured lol.

    I see you MAYBE are trying to justify the use of NOED, just don't. Feel free to run any perk without being bothered by others opinions, they are game features meant to be used.

    I run noed with about 3 killers or so, especially the slowest ones. Usually running noed on one shot killers is stupid, but i do use it on Leatherface. Not because of the exposed status, but because of the speed.

    If survivors manage to complete the 5 gens you get the speed boost from noed, plus the speed from beasts marks addon and the speed from Play with your food (if you have it). Use the chainsaw with all that speed, you'll fly :dizzy:

    Oh no I'm not justifying the use of NOED. I use what I want, and I don't really see a need to explain to anyone why I do. Even if people think it is a waste.

    I was saying I use it on some Killers because its the only end game perk I get any use out of. Mainly for the speed increase. All the totems are usually destroyed way before the end of the trial though. lol :'(

    I mainly only use it though when I play Full-Hex Spirit and it can be fun on the Hag. I only really use those two and the Clown and I have never, ever, felt a need or want to put it on the Clown lol.

    @GodDamn_Angela
    Noed is a win win for the killer imo.
    They dont cleanse totems? Free instadowns
    They do? They didnt genrush

    True.

    I never actually thought about it like that. Very good point.

  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
    
    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)

    It's not a bad perk, the thing is that 30 seconds aren't really enough to check most gens.
    That's why it should have an increased timer or work with token system.
    But the perk is really good on fast killers and race car Wraith.

  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
    
    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
    Edit: quite a few times

    Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

    But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
    
    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
    Edit: quite a few times

    Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

    But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
    If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.
  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    Unnamed_Freak said:
    

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action. Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him. @Unnamed_Freak

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
    
    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)
    
    
    
    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.
    
    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)

    Edit: quite a few times

    Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

    But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
    If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.

    3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.

  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,826

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    Unnamed_Freak said:
    

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action. Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him. @Unnamed_Freak

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.
    
    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)
    
    
    
    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.
    
    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)

    Edit: quite a few times

    Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.

    But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.
    If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.

    3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Yeah some do, it's hilarious. I don't understand how rank 1 people keep falling for that.
  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:
    
    Unnamed_Freak said:
    

    @Vietfox said: Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.        @Unnamed_Freak
    

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors. For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet) I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all. And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion. @Unnamed_Freak

    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
    
    Edit: quite a few times
    
    
    
    Pop Goes The Weasel is not a bad perk, the problem is that the timer is too short for normal killers or slow killers to check all gens.
    
    But it's really good on all fast killers and probably on race car Wraith.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak
    

    I personally do the opposit thing, fast killers apply more pressure already than slow ones, so i try to balance it.

    If you mix it with the 3 gens strat you dont really need to go so far.

    3 gen strat with Doc running Pop Goes The Weasel is a disconnect party.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Yeah some do, it's hilarious. I don't understand how rank 1 people keep falling for that.

    Because most rank 1 players are potatoes, ranking only requires time after all. I for example almost got to rank 1 with pre-buff Wraith, and I didn't know how Doc even worked.

  • Unnamed_FreakUnnamed_Freak Member Posts: 470

    @Vietfox said:
    Unnamed_Freak said:

    @Vietfox said:

    Unnamed_Freak said:

    My only problem with Adrenaline is that it wakes you up, when wake up is not even a healing action.
    
    Freddy is already a weak killer but yet the devs made another counter to him.
    
    
    
    @Unnamed_Freak 
    

    I understand, but perk itself has important cons, like to play with 3 perks for almost the whole match. Any killer who knows how to create pressure will make the match to take longer, increasing the chances of killing survivors.

    For killers with less map pressure i use pop goes the weasel, it's an amazing perk. So you could try that on Freddy (if you havent yet)

    I particularly don't have issues with Adrenaline or creating pressure, I was just stating that. Unless I am playing Legion, they cannot create pressure at all.

    And Pop Goes The Weasel should work with a token system. So it can work on slow killers like Huntress, Hag and Legion.

    @Unnamed_Freak
    Idk, i find pop goes the weasel quite strong already. Mayne increase the timer? But i swear, that perk has given me 4K without a single gen done at rank 1 ON LEATHERFACE (sometimes using good addons like bests marks, grease, etc and sometimes with crappy addons)
    Edit: quite a few times

    The perk is good, the bad thing is that the timer is not long enough to check all gens or to work on slow killers.

    But it's really good on fast killers and race car Wraith.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,071

    @White_Owl said:

    @Kind_Lemon said:
    Side question: Does anyone know what happens if I drop a survivor that has Adrenaline? Does it put them into the injured state from the dying state so I can smack them?

    If I'm not wrong Adrenaline becomes wasted if it activates while being carried by a killer.

    There was a bug a few months ago and it was quite funny actually where it'd launch the survivor off the killers shoulder as if they'd used a rocket launcher. It was basically a sprint burst flying in air and landing running and I'd gone to body block the killer and the survivor went flying past my head in air.

  • TAGTAG Member Posts: 1,462
    powerbats said:

    @White_Owl said:

    @Kind_Lemon said:
    Side question: Does anyone know what happens if I drop a survivor that has Adrenaline? Does it put them into the injured state from the dying state so I can smack them?

    If I'm not wrong Adrenaline becomes wasted if it activates while being carried by a killer.

    There was a bug a few months ago and it was quite funny actually where it'd launch the survivor off the killers shoulder as if they'd used a rocket launcher. It was basically a sprint burst flying in air and landing running and I'd gone to body block the killer and the survivor went flying past my head in air.

    I need to see a video of this because it sounds hilarious.
  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,071

    @TAG said:

    I need to see a video of this because it sounds hilarious.

    I'll have to go back and see if it was one of my recorded games because it's priceless when you see it from either view.

  • ArrozArroz Member Posts: 1,179

    @Maximus7 said:
    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    Ebony Mori is more broken that ds and adrenaline and nobody mentions :)

  • Maximus7Maximus7 Member Posts: 400
    Arroz said:

    @Maximus7 said:
    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    Ebony Mori is more broken that ds and adrenaline and nobody mentions :)

    But it's not??? Ebony moris, while pretty bullshit, still require you to do your job and hook a survivor first. DS rewards you for losing in a chase and Adrenaline rewards you for focusing on gens instead of healing yourself, getting rid of any pressure the killer accumulated during the match if all 4 had it.
  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,071

    @Maximus7 said:

    Ebony Mori is more broken that ds and adrenaline and nobody mentions :)

    But it's not??? Ebony moris, while pretty bullshit, still require you to do your job and hook a survivor first. DS rewards you for losing in a chase and Adrenaline rewards you for focusing on gens instead of healing yourself, getting rid of any pressure the killer accumulated during the match if all 4 had it.

    The former perhaps the latter rewards you for doing your job which is DOING GENS and if you're the person playing catch me if you can. Then DS is rewarding you for choosing it and actually getting away but if you're never chased, get dribbled, slugged, dropped into the basement.

    You get hooked but never get unhooked to use it again, get camped, get mori'd by Rancor or DH, sandbagged by a teammate etc.

    The Ebony mori is a guaranteed kill on anyone that's been hooked, no 2nd chances, no wiggling free and running off nada zip zero zilch. You can't fail a skill check with it, you can't get dribbled, slugged or anything like that.

  • Tru3LemonTru3Lemon Member Posts: 876

    @Maximus7 said:
    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    so youre saying that adredaline its broken what about insta down addons with ebano mori. the problem its that if you really want this to get nerf then the game will be broken cuz remember that 70% or less i dont know killers tunnel and camp and the mayority cannot use adredaline cuz they didint finish the last gen

  • Code25Code25 Member Posts: 5

    @tehshadowman33 said:
    What if adrenaline gave you 75% of a heal bar progress instead of a flat-out full heal state at rank 3? You can keep the haste effect, I don't care about that... It doesn't make too much of a difference.

    Holy shit dude that's honestly genius, and for downed players, you could give them a temporary unbreakable

  • Maximus7Maximus7 Member Posts: 400
    powerbats said:

    @Maximus7 said:

    Ebony Mori is more broken that ds and adrenaline and nobody mentions :)

    But it's not??? Ebony moris, while pretty bullshit, still require you to do your job and hook a survivor first. DS rewards you for losing in a chase and Adrenaline rewards you for focusing on gens instead of healing yourself, getting rid of any pressure the killer accumulated during the match if all 4 had it.

    The former perhaps the latter rewards you for doing your job which is DOING GENS and if you're the person playing catch me if you can. Then DS is rewarding you for choosing it and actually getting away but if you're never chased, get dribbled, slugged, dropped into the basement.

    You get hooked but never get unhooked to use it again, get camped, get mori'd by Rancor or DH, sandbagged by a teammate etc.

    The Ebony mori is a guaranteed kill on anyone that's been hooked, no 2nd chances, no wiggling free and running off nada zip zero zilch. You can't fail a skill check with it, you can't get dribbled, slugged or anything like that.

    Again, not defending moris, I honestly don't like them either. But are we seriously defending DS and Adrenaline? Like, why the hell are we actually pretending DS is fair and balanced?
    For Adrenaline, yes, your job is doing gens, but when completing your job allows you to get rid of any pressure the killer ever had, that is a huge problem. Not to mention it completely ignores exhaustion AND is pocketed for use whenever you're off a hook or dropped by the killer.
    For DS, it's a free escape. Full stop. You lost a chase yet get off the killer's shoulder for hitting a skill check, which you all play skill check simulator on gens anyway. If you don't get to use the perk, that's your fault for going down too close to a hook.
  • Maximus7Maximus7 Member Posts: 400
    Tru3Lemon said:

    @Maximus7 said:
    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    so youre saying that adredaline its broken what about insta down addons with ebano mori. the problem its that if you really want this to get nerf then the game will be broken cuz remember that 70% or less i dont know killers tunnel and camp and the mayority cannot use adredaline cuz they didint finish the last gen


    I can't get out of the quote textbox on mobile, REEEEEEE.

    Anyway, yes, I don't like insta-down add-ons into ebony moris, either. It's why I always refrained from using Iri Head on my Huntress (I have like 50ish Iri Heads just in case I run into some toxic assholes). I'd love for those to be reworked as well. Both sides have bullshit options, and reworking said options would be a great step towards balancing the game.

    And II'm sorry, but if you can't survive until the end with how fast gens progress, then one of three things happened:

    1. You went down way too fast.
    2. You and/or your team doesn't know how to do gens
    3. You got camped to oblivion.

    Two of those are completely in your control, and in the case of the third one, he sacrifices the entire game just to kill you. So the team should do gens and get out.
  • ChiChi Member Posts: 704

    @Maximus7 said:
    Arroz said:

    @Maximus7 said:

    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.
    

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    Ebony Mori is more broken that ds and adrenaline and nobody mentions :)

    But it's not??? Ebony moris, while pretty bullshit, still require you to do your job and hook a survivor first. DS rewards you for losing in a chase and Adrenaline rewards you for focusing on gens instead of healing yourself, getting rid of any pressure the killer accumulated during the match if all 4 had it.

    Where is the lol button when you need it.

  • HURRI_KAINHURRI_KAIN Member Posts: 190

    @Maximus7 said:
    So you get gen rushed because nobody healed. Not that big of an issue, right? Everyone's injured, you can just try to slug for at least 1 or 2 kills before they open an exit gate?

    Adrenaline. Not only do you lose a chase due to a 5-second Haste effect, but everyone who was injured is fully healed, or everyone downed is running around again. This perk has ruined all momentum any killer can get before they have the gens completed, and just having this perk alone basically makes healing useless when you can complete 2 gens in the same time it would take to heal.

    Now, the 5-second Haste is fine, but healing a full health state? And also waking up from Freddy's dream world? Absolutely ridiculous. People have finally realized how broken it is and in a 4-man swf, me and many others just run all Adrenaline and gen rush without healing. It's broken. It is game-changing. It needs a nerf.

    It prevents slugging, if the 5th gen is popped and you haven't killed 1 or at least have a couple hooked, you need to git gud.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 7,071

    @Chi said:

    Where is the lol button when you need it.

    Ask and you shall receive an evolved one.

  • fluffybunnyfluffybunny Member Posts: 2,094
    Adrenaline isn't more broken than DS as it's massively situational. It's like saying Unbreakable is OP and more problematic than DS 'cause someone was slugged and got up. It is a strong perk, but it's only good for end game. If they're injured and the last gen isn't done yet, that makes them an easy target. I would say don't get greedy when you see two injured people. Don't slug one to go after the other and just hook them, then chase. They actually have to get to end game for it to slow you down, though. With DS, just having one (or multiple) present can massively hinder and slow down the killer. So, it's more or a problem.

  • OooooofOooooof Member Posts: 109


    git gud

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