Penalty for Dc'ing before the match loads

GardeniaGardenia Member Posts: 110
edited January 11 in General Discussions
As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

Please if you can, look into this.
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  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 5,558

    @Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    It could be a crash, they're all on the same shared internet ie college dorm there's lots of reasons for it and are you for punishing all the killers that do the same?

  • MilordMilord Member Posts: 83
    powerbats said:

    @Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    It could be a crash, they're all on the same shared internet ie college dorm there's lots of reasons for it and are you for punishing all the killers that do the same?

    I think OP meant stop punishing killers if all player DC (by letting them keep add-ons), not add punishment to DCing player.
  • GardeniaGardenia Member Posts: 110
    Milord said:
    powerbats said:

    @Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    It could be a crash, they're all on the same shared internet ie college dorm there's lots of reasons for it and are you for punishing all the killers that do the same?

    I think OP meant stop punishing killers if all player DC (by letting them keep add-ons), not add punishment to DCing player.
    Yes exactly
  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 5,558

    @Gardenia said:

    I think OP meant stop punishing killers if all player DC (by letting them keep add-ons), not add punishment to DCing player.

    Yes exactly

    Ok that makes much more sense then and yes that's been asked for both sides but how do you determine a crash versus actually rage quitting?

    I've had killer do it usually they don't like an offering especially if it's a map offering and say a Doctor that put Gideons in and a survivor ut a different one in.

  • DwightsLifeMattersDwightsLifeMatters Member Posts: 1,220
    This would be possible with dedicated servers. @not_Queen do you know if this is planned after introducing dedicated servers?
  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 7,405

    @Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    There should be a penalty for DCing. Completely ridiculous that we still dont have one

  • fluffybunnyfluffybunny Member Posts: 456
    A lot of times a DC in the loading screen is because of lag, which we shouldn't punish. Not their fault. DCing at start of match is a whole nother thing. 
  • ForeheadSurviorsForeheadSurviors Member Posts: 115
    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488
    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 
    Or... the killer is checking profiles...
  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 5,558

    @Tsulan said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:

    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 

    Or... the killer is checking profiles...

    Well there's that but I've seen it where it stays high until someone teh killer obviously doesn't like leaves then it magically goes back to normal.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:

    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 

    Or... the killer is checking profiles...

    Well there's that but I've seen it where it stays high until someone teh killer obviously doesn't like leaves then it magically goes back to normal.

    Was explained a loooong time ago on a dev stream, that the ping spikes are usually the killer checking the survivors profiles.
    Please don´t ask which one. I´m done with searching dev streams for a one liner.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 5,558

    @Tsulan said:

    Was explained a loooong time ago on a dev stream, that the ping spikes are usually the killer checking the survivors profiles.
    Please don´t ask which one. I´m done with searching dev streams for a one liner.

    That doesn't change the fact that killers also will start downloading something to keep their ping high when they want to have someone leave.

    I also already acknowledged that's what happens as well but let's not pretend that killers are angels here in any way shape or form. Once the dedicated servers come up there won't be anymore of that nonsense going on.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Was explained a loooong time ago on a dev stream, that the ping spikes are usually the killer checking the survivors profiles.
    Please don´t ask which one. I´m done with searching dev streams for a one liner.

    That doesn't change the fact that killers also will start downloading something to keep their ping high when they want to have someone leave.

    I also already acknowledged that's what happens as well but let's not pretend that killers are angels here in any way shape or form. Once the dedicated servers come up there won't be anymore of that nonsense going on.

    Never claimed they are. But i´m tired of survivors calling every killer a lag switcher, when they only had a lag spike.
    I´ve been a survivor in those matches. No lag on my side. Survivors still acused the killer.

  • powerbatspowerbats Member Posts: 5,558

    @Tsulan said:

    Never claimed they are. But i´m tired of survivors calling every killer a lag switcher, when they only had a lag spike.
    I´ve been a survivor in those matches. No lag on my side. Survivors still acused the killer.

    I've been on both sides of it so I can understand it but when it gets so easily dismissed on these very forums by killers mains non stop saying git gud it gets called out.

    If people were actually told what's lag switching and what's not they actually feel better and learn something instead of feeling their getting trolled by killer mains.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488
    edited January 12

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Never claimed they are. But i´m tired of survivors calling every killer a lag switcher, when they only had a lag spike.
    I´ve been a survivor in those matches. No lag on my side. Survivors still acused the killer.

    I've been on both sides of it so I can understand it but when it gets so easily dismissed on these very forums by killers mains non stop saying git gud it gets called out.

    If people were actually told what's lag switching and what's not they actually feel better and learn something instead of feeling their getting trolled by killer mains.

    They are being dismissed, because people call everything a lag switch:
    Survivor missed the DS skill check? Lag switcher!
    Killer seems to go faster than normal while carrying someone? Lag switcher!
    Survivor was downed after jumping through the window? Lag switcher!

    Nothing of this is a lag switcher.

    But the next things are real lag switches that happend:
    No progress bar progress for more than 10 seconds while holding m1.
    Can´t see the killer, next second you are downed or already on the shoulder of the killer.
    Being unable to unhook someone, no matter how long you hold m1.

  • OrionsFury4789OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 145
    Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.
    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers
  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 7,405

    @ForeheadSurviors said:
    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 

    Oh god, a sweaty killer that is checking profiles ..... DC

    I bet you complain about lobbydodging though :wink:

  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 7,405

    @Tsulan said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Was explained a loooong time ago on a dev stream, that the ping spikes are usually the killer checking the survivors profiles.
    Please don´t ask which one. I´m done with searching dev streams for a one liner.

    That doesn't change the fact that killers also will start downloading something to keep their ping high when they want to have someone leave.

    I also already acknowledged that's what happens as well but let's not pretend that killers are angels here in any way shape or form. Once the dedicated servers come up there won't be anymore of that nonsense going on.

    Never claimed they are. But i´m tired of survivors calling every killer a lag switcher, when they only had a lag spike.
    I´ve been a survivor in those matches. No lag on my side. Survivors still acused the killer.

    Its a bunch of kids crying that there wifi connection they share with their whole family isnt stable.
    Sister probably watching netflix, a brother downloading some porn, parents uploading sth for work.

    *Insert heavy insults
    noob killers needs to laggswitch

    :wink:

  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 7,405

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Gardenia said:

    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers

    With the difference that you keep your items as survivor and each survivor gets twice the BP the killer gets for 4 DCs :wink:

  • OrionsFury4789OrionsFury4789 Member Posts: 145
    Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Gardenia said:

    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers

    With the difference that you keep your items as survivor and each survivor gets twice the BP the killer gets for 4 DCs :wink:

    Nope actually you're wrong again with your little snarky remark on PS4 if they pull the plug you lose it all even the bloodpoint progress during the match I've lost countless amounts of items because of that and @Vietfox can vouch for that 
  • ForeheadSurviorsForeheadSurviors Member Posts: 115
    Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Gardenia said:

    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers

    With the difference that you keep your items as survivor and each survivor gets twice the BP the killer gets for 4 DCs :wink:

    I bet you DC / Dodge when people switch survivors at the last second.....
  • VietfoxVietfox Member Posts: 3,338
    @Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:
    Gardenia said:

    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.

    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers

    With the difference that you keep your items as survivor and each survivor gets twice the BP the killer gets for 4 DCs :wink:

    Nope actually you're wrong again with your little snarky remark on PS4 if they pull the plug you lose it all even the bloodpoint progress during the match I've lost countless amounts of items because of that and @Vietfox can vouch for that 
    Items and you get 0 bloodpoints. I got a match recorded against a "rank 1" wraith who did it.
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488

    @ForeheadSurviors said:
    Master said:

    @OrionsFury4789 said:

    Gardenia said:

    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.
    
    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 
    
    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.
    
    Please if you can, look into this.
    

    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers

    With the difference that you keep your items as survivor and each survivor gets twice the BP the killer gets for 4 DCs :wink:

    I bet you DC / Dodge when people switch survivors at the last second.....

    Wanna know what happens when survivors last second switch?

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 5,989

    @Tsulan said:
    Wanna know what happens when survivors last second switch?

    Such perk variety.

  • PigNRunPigNRun Member Posts: 822
    This would be possible with dedicated servers. @not_Queen do you know if this is planned after introducing dedicated servers?
    Dedicated servers wouldnt change this at all. Lag can happen regardless of where you arr trying to connect.
    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 
    How do you check ping if you are on the loading screen? :P
  • JammyJewelsJammyJewels Member Posts: 575
    Tsulan said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Tsulan said:

    Never claimed they are. But i´m tired of survivors calling every killer a lag switcher, when they only had a lag spike.
    I´ve been a survivor in those matches. No lag on my side. Survivors still acused the killer.

    I've been on both sides of it so I can understand it but when it gets so easily dismissed on these very forums by killers mains non stop saying git gud it gets called out.

    If people were actually told what's lag switching and what's not they actually feel better and learn something instead of feeling their getting trolled by killer mains.

    They are being dismissed, because people call everything a lag switch:
    Survivor missed the DS skill check? Lag switcher!
    Killer seems to go faster than normal while carrying someone? Lag switcher!
    Survivor was downed after jumping through the window? Lag switcher!

    Nothing of this is a lag switcher.

    But the next things are real lag switches that happend:
    No progress bar progress for more than 10 seconds while holding m1.
    Can´t see the killer, next second you are downed or already on the shoulder of the killer.
    Being unable to unhook someone, no matter how long you hold m1.

    That happens to me occasionally. I had one occasion when I was unlocking an Exit Gate and I saw Leatherface chasing me... He kept on running straight past me but then all of a sudden I was downed and left to bleed out. My team were still good and revived me though, so I can’t really complain.

    Sometimes it could just be the survivors’ connections. I am knowledgeable of mine being terrible but not by choice, due to living on a newly built estate where Fibre connections haven’t been integrated yet. So if I get into a game with a killer whose ping is bad I will know, especially when my ping is above 300. But otherwise it sticks to 80+. If I could move so easily I would and would instantly get a fibre connection as I know it is equally as annoying for killers and survivors to have a laggy player (especially when someone’s connection completely cuts off whilst healing you, you are stuck in place until the game recognises the disconnect.
  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488

    @Orion said:

    Such perk variety.

    High rank swf players have little to no variety. This loadout was especially scary, since it´s exactly what i fear the most against competent swf players.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 4,488

    @PigNRun said:
    ForeheadSurviors said:

    I DC during a loading screen if i see the ping goes from green to red because i know that ping isn’t stabled . 

    How do you check ping if you are on the loading screen? :P

    He simply disconnects during the loading screen to screw his team, instead of dodging in the lobby, where he wouldn´t harm anyone.

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 5,989

    @Tsulan said:

    @Orion said:

    Such perk variety.

    High rank swf players have little to no variety. This loadout was especially scary, since it´s exactly what i fear the most against competent swf players.

    I know. Why do you think I stay away from there? Even at mid ranks, the stale meta is ubiquitous, but at least it's not 99% of every loadout.

  • GardeniaGardenia Member Posts: 110
    Gardenia said:
    As Killer it's infuriating when you use an ultra rare offering or add-on and then a swf comes along and they all dc upon the loading screen.

    You should be able to keep your offerings or add-on when that happens. 

    Especially since as killer you don't even pip when that happens you merely safety pip with almost no gain in BP.

    Please if you can, look into this.
    The same can be said when the killer does it and I lose my offering, my purple flashlight and all my add ons when they pull the plug mid game or in loading screen, something should be done about both don't pretend like it's only impacting killers
    I am speaking from my Experience. So there's no need to take it personally.
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