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FenrirFenrir Member Posts: 533
They could only mori you if your on your last hook this would be for ebony and green moris cypress mori would stay the same

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  • ad19970ad19970 Member Posts: 4,652

    I mean I'm pretty sure there are multiple people that would not want this at all, but personally I would like that. I always felt like Moris, Ebony Moris in particular just have so much effect on the game and make the killer so much more powerful. Some compensation would be nice though if killers get such powerful tools nerfed. Getting rid of insta heals for example, those are also extremely powerful.

  • WeaponXMetsuWeaponXMetsu Member Posts: 81

    I like mori's but, I would have to agree if it is your last hook and you're downed then why do you have to carry them to a hook? It always seems kind of weird that you need an offering to kill by your own hand. If all hope is lost for the survivor then why not give the opportunity to just mori them?

  • Wolff_BringerWolff_Bringer Member Posts: 88

    Well...
    I kinda like the way moris are handled at this moment. I would like to see another mori that is not THAT rare but still rare, that has the exact same effect like you tell. You have to be hooked TWICE. And then only for one person.
    That would be cool.

    But i would like to have the Ebony just pushed up in rarity. That would make it fine then.

  • artistartist Member Posts: 1,514
    I think a great starter nerf to moris would be to make it so that they can only be used when everyone has been hooked at least once
  • Wolff_BringerWolff_Bringer Member Posts: 88

    @artist said:
    I think a great starter nerf to moris would be to make it so that they can only be used when everyone has been hooked at least once

    That would make the mori useless. How often in games i have the problem that i get ONE person not catching.
    That would ruin the offering completly.

  • artistartist Member Posts: 1,514

    @artist said:
    I think a great starter nerf to moris would be to make it so that they can only be used when everyone has been hooked at least once

    That would make the mori useless. How often in games i have the problem that i get ONE person not catching.
    That would ruin the offering completly.

    it would ruin it for the worse killers that dont rly deserve the kills. I don't see a problem with that
  • BlueberryBlueberry Member Posts: 10,074

    I don't think Mori's need any changes. They already aren't that common.

  • AttackfrogAttackfrog Member Posts: 1,134

    We should nerf moris. Definitely. They should only be usable after a survivor successfully uses DS, regardless of times hooked.

    In seriousness, DS should be an earned skill available for every survivor in each match. As penalty, a killer should be able to mori any survivor that uses DS successfully.

  • ReikoMoriReikoMori Member Posts: 2,231

    @Wolff_Bringer said:
    Well...
    I kinda like the way moris are handled at this moment. I would like to see another mori that is not THAT rare but still rare, that has the exact same effect like you tell. You have to be hooked TWICE. And then only for one person.
    That would be cool.

    But i would like to have the Ebony just pushed up in rarity. That would make it fine then.

    Ebony is at the highest Rarity tier already. It's ultra rare by default which is why it function the way it does. There is no reason to change mori offerings in the slightest as they are already very conditional and Ebony being the rarest one is hard to come by. Mori is supposed to have a heavy effect on the game when used as it is the killer's biggest trump card and unlike survivor gear you can't just black ward to get repeated uses.

  • NoShinyPonyNoShinyPony Member Posts: 4,570

    Moris are fine as they are, as long as there are insta-heals in the game. :)

    @artist said:
    Wolff_Bringer said:

    @artist said:

    I think a great starter nerf to moris would be to make it so that they can only be used when everyone has been hooked at least once

    That would make the mori useless. How often in games i have the problem that i get ONE person not catching.

    That would ruin the offering completly.

    it would ruin it for the worse killers that dont rly deserve the kills. I don't see a problem with that

    You should play killer for a while in the high ranks. That will change your view on a lot of things.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 12,647
    Nerf moris again? 
    Why?
  • tt_ivi_99tt_ivi_99 Member Posts: 1,463
    Moris are a good way to deal with 4 men SWF if you dont want to play as Nurse so...

    No, dont nerf moris
  • George_SorosGeorge_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    edited January 2019

    Being able to use an ebony only after second hook would make the offering basically pointless, except for the fun factor. I understand in its current state it's a strong offering, but that's why it's relatively rare. Plus, there's a partial but quite effective way to counter it: leave the guy hanging till the last second, if necessary, but make a hundred percent sure you only do a safe rescue. And no, this does not include those "wee I have Borrowed Time let's yolo save"actions.

    Now to think of it, it looks like an ebony (or ivory) mori is a very good educational tool.

    And don't forget, most of us prefers a Survivor Pudding to any mori.

  • No_Cluie_LouisNo_Cluie_Louis Member Posts: 1,092

    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

  • RoKruegerRoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371
    Fenrir said:
    They could only mori you if your on your last hook this would be for ebony and green moris cypress mori would stay the same
    Don't you mess with my moris  ;)
  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,638
    Tsulan said:
    Nerf moris again? 
    Why?
    BeCaUsE GaMEs tOo HaRd! 
  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732
    edited January 2019

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

  • MilkymalkMilkymalk Member Posts: 200

    Change the Cypress Mori to this: Instead of the last survivor, any one survivor on his last hook. Cypress Mori deserves to be used more and this way it hardly makes any difference for the match.

  • artistartist Member Posts: 1,514

    Moris are fine as they are, as long as there are insta-heals in the game. :)

    @artist said:
    Wolff_Bringer said:

    @artist said:

    I think a great starter nerf to moris would be to make it so that they can only be used when everyone has been hooked at least once

    That would make the mori useless. How often in games i have the problem that i get ONE person not catching.

    That would ruin the offering completly.

    it would ruin it for the worse killers that dont rly deserve the kills. I don't see a problem with that

    You should play killer for a while in the high ranks. That will change your view on a lot of things.

    no it wouldn't, and I will trade Insta heals for moris any day
  • No_Cluie_LouisNo_Cluie_Louis Member Posts: 1,092

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

    How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

  • ZagridZagrid Member Posts: 999
    Mori s are fine as is because they are rare and if you pay attention during offerings you will see it and play a little more safely. Heck with the introduction of pausing to see offerings you could see the killer has a secret offering and play a little more safely
  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

    How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

    Not all killers. Besides, you cannot tell me sometimes you want to get rid of that flashlight clicking, t-bagging survivor out the match quicker. Plus if I know a killer is running a mori it incentives stealth. You actually hinder the fear of moris because you basically get a second chance.

    As you said it wouldn't change much, but IT WOULD give more pressure to killers to tunnel the first person they hook because there is a greater chance for that survivor to not get moried if it required a second hook. Especially if it's a ivory.

  • No_Cluie_LouisNo_Cluie_Louis Member Posts: 1,092

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

    How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

    Not all killers. Besides, you cannot tell me sometimes you want to get rid of that flashlight clicking, t-bagging survivor out the match quicker. Plus if I know a killer is running a mori it incentives stealth. You actually hinder the fear of moris because you basically get a second chance.

    As you said it wouldn't change much, but IT WOULD give more pressure to killers to tunnel the first person they hook because there is a greater chance for that survivor to not get moried if it required a second hook. Especially if it's a ivory.

    I do see where you're coming from, however i'd rather be tunneled than be against something so OP. When i play killer and use a mori, i usually don't even use it untill the person has been hooked twice, as i just think it's too OP

  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

    How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

    Not all killers. Besides, you cannot tell me sometimes you want to get rid of that flashlight clicking, t-bagging survivor out the match quicker. Plus if I know a killer is running a mori it incentives stealth. You actually hinder the fear of moris because you basically get a second chance.

    As you said it wouldn't change much, but IT WOULD give more pressure to killers to tunnel the first person they hook because there is a greater chance for that survivor to not get moried if it required a second hook. Especially if it's a ivory.

    I do see where you're coming from, however i'd rather be tunneled than be against something so OP. When i play killer and use a mori, i usually don't even use it untill the person has been hooked twice, as i just think it's too OP

    To each their own. But that is your playstyle, and I have my own. I'd rather moris not get touched right now. Especially when I run Dying Light and need my obsession out as soon as possible.

  • artistartist Member Posts: 1,514
    Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:

    @Shad03 said:

    @No_Cluie_Louis said:
    this is so true. Mori's should be for the killers satisfaction and the extra points, not for making the game easier

    This statement is redundant.

    I don't use Moris myself unless I need to do a ritual that requires I mori people. But if I use it for fun well the nerfs suggested will take the fun away from people like me.

    Also the whole point of a mori is to make life easier for those using it as it knocks players out the game. The nerfs would just promote super tunneling as you'd have to invest on the person whom you hooked to use the mori. Making it more unfun for survivors, so please, rethink your statement.

    How's it different, killers already tunnel survivors when they have a mori anyway, it just makes it less OP

    Not all killers. Besides, you cannot tell me sometimes you want to get rid of that flashlight clicking, t-bagging survivor out the match quicker. Plus if I know a killer is running a mori it incentives stealth. You actually hinder the fear of moris because you basically get a second chance.

    As you said it wouldn't change much, but IT WOULD give more pressure to killers to tunnel the first person they hook because there is a greater chance for that survivor to not get moried if it required a second hook. Especially if it's a ivory.

    I do see where you're coming from, however i'd rather be tunneled than be against something so OP. When i play killer and use a mori, i usually don't even use it untill the person has been hooked twice, as i just think it's too OP

    To each their own. But that is your playstyle, and I have my own. I'd rather moris not get touched right now. Especially when I run Dying Light and need my obsession out as soon as possible.

    that explains it LOL
  • Shad03Shad03 Member Posts: 3,732

    @artist said:
    that explains it LOL

    :wink:

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