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Decisive is fine, Object of Obsession didn't need nerf though.

SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

The change to Object of Obsession isn't really fair, if you don't use D-strike with it you'll possibly get the perk taken AWAY from you, by another Survivor if they run D-Strike. Just keep it how it is, if you're not Obsession the range is shortened.

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  • GorgoniaGorgonia Member Posts: 1,173
    Yes, they make you burn perk slots that you might not even get to use. Doesn’t seem like good game mechanics.
  • redsopine01redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    I like the change as it stops teams all running it and using lockers
  • GorgoniaGorgonia Member Posts: 1,173
    I like the change as it stops teams all running it and using lockers
    Teams run one OoO and voice comm info on the killer’s location
  • redsopine01redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Yes but this also means u have to waste two slots now for when the obsession dies to keep using it
  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @redsopine01 said:
    Yes but this also means u have to waste two slots now for when the obsession dies to keep using it

    Which is why I think it's fine where it is now, and they need to just leave it alone. But now that I think about it, someone above said that one person in a SWF's group could just sit in a locker and abuse it because the Aura reading isn't shown, SO, I guess the change for it needs to be that lockers can't hide you while using the perk.

  • TAGTAG Member Posts: 12,016
    I thought they changed lockers so that the person inside can't read anyone else's auras either.
  • redsopine01redsopine01 Member Posts: 1,269
    Spork said:

    @redsopine01 said:
    Yes but this also means u have to waste two slots now for when the obsession dies to keep using it

    Which is why I think it's fine where it is now, and they need to just leave it alone. But now that I think about it, someone above said that one person in a SWF's group could just sit in a locker and abuse it because the Aura reading isn't shown, SO, I guess the change for it needs to be that lockers can't hide you while using the perk.

    I think they was ment to nurff seeing aruas in and out of a locker from both sides
  • The_CrusaderThe_Crusader Member Posts: 3,688
    OOO was almost as toxic a perk as DS.

    3 seconds into the game and you notice some tool teabagging you from the other side of the map, telling his buddies on discord your location. Awful perk that got abused badly and probably needs a nerf of its own.
  • Aven_FallenAven_Fallen Member Posts: 11,575

    @The_Crusader said:
    OOO was almost as toxic a perk as DS.

    Honestly, I see it as even more toxic. When I have OoO-Users in my game they really want to have my attention. The same can go for DS-Users, but OoO-Users are usually the ones who want to find you easily to taunt you.

  • MasterMaster Member Posts: 10,200

    @Spork said:
    The change to Object of Obsession isn't really fair, if you don't use D-strike with it you'll possibly get the perk taken AWAY from you, by another Survivor if they run D-Strike. Just keep it how it is, if you're not Obsession the range is shortened.

    OoO has to be reworked anyway, SWF abuse it so much

  • IhatelifeIhatelife Member Posts: 5,069

    It's only shorter by 8 meters. It's not that bad.

  • CorianderCoriander Member Posts: 1,069

    I liked OoO and I never party up. I don't think it needed to be broken so all the people using DS can take it away from me.

  • HavelmomDaS1HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    What do you mean, when got ooo nerfed? It's still the same or not and you don't need to be the obsession to get the use if it 
  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,297
    Its the first time we are seeing survivors needing to run a partner perk to ensure effectiveness/use. Killers have similar nessecity for totem defense with toth. You want to have a strong effect and worry about it being taken, equip the additional perk.
  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @The_Crusader said:
    OOO was almost as toxic a perk as DS.

    3 seconds into the game and you notice some tool teabagging you from the other side of the map, telling his buddies on discord your location. Awful perk that got abused badly and probably needs a nerf of its own.

    I had to stop and reply to you before reading the rest of the peoples comments below you.

    Stop being sensitive. DS was genuinely a bad perk, being able to see someone bm'ing isn't the same.

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @Ihatelife said:
    It's only shorter by 8 meters. It's not that bad.

    They're planning on making it so you CANNOT use it if you aren't the obsession. Currently it's just a shorter distance. This is the upcoming change.

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @HavelmomDaS1 said:
    What do you mean, when got ooo nerfed? It's still the same or not and you don't need to be the obsession to get the use if it 

    Check news and read the new DS changes, and how it will effect the other perks (Specifically Object of Obsession.)

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @DemonDaddy said:
    Its the first time we are seeing survivors needing to run a partner perk to ensure effectiveness/use. Killers have similar nessecity for totem defense with toth. You want to have a strong effect and worry about it being taken, equip the additional perk.

    Killers aren't required to run any perks for one to work though, Ruin can be effective without Thrill of the Hunt.

    If you don't use DS, and someone else does, you have ZERO access to the perk.

  • CorianderCoriander Member Posts: 1,069

    Yeah it's nonsense, I really hope they fix the OoO issue. It's my only gripe about the change. As a solo player it was situational as it is, now it won't even activate? Where are all the fun mechanic-changing perks now? Only No Mither is left.

  • EvelineEveline Member Posts: 2,340
    OoO isn't toxic if you aren't.
  • CorianderCoriander Member Posts: 1,069

    It isn't, period, if it doesn't activate.

    I never used it in a bad way, though. I tried it out for the Adept achievement and loved the risky playstyle that came with it. I wanted to explore it some more but I don't have Laurie on my new platform. Not yet, anyway.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,297
    edited February 2019
    @Spork
    Your right, its not mandatory for killers. Same is true for survivors though, you don't have to have both, but if it being useless or taken away mid game worries you either skip it or back it up. Just depends how many are going to run it every game. Same as killer, you have to plan around the most common choices.
  • HavelmomDaS1HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    Spork said:

    @HavelmomDaS1 said:
    What do you mean, when got ooo nerfed? It's still the same or not and you don't need to be the obsession to get the use if it 

    Check news and read the new DS changes, and how it will effect the other perks (Specifically Object of Obsession.)

    Checked it, #########? Why did they nerfed OoO so heavily? I don't get it, it was in a really good spot and I loved to use it as solo. Seems like I can't use it anymore cuz beeing the obsession isn't always guaranteed.. I dont like the change
  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 13,578
    edited February 2019

    What if those who run OOO and aren't the Obsession can see the Obsession at any distance instead?
    And they reveal their aura to the Obsession when looking at them.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Idk, i don't like that Perk weakening either, it was fine by me, so i made something up in 5 seconds. :p

    EDIT: WOOPS, forgot to add a downside to it.
    Which could be the same actually, just have the Killer see your aura.

    Post edited by Boss on
  • Paddy4583Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    Gorgonia said:
    Yes, they make you burn perk slots that you might not even get to use. Doesn’t seem like good game mechanics.
    It’s really only the same situation if 2 people had it equipped though.
  • HavelmomDaS1HavelmomDaS1 Member Posts: 1,948
    Boss said:

    What if those who run OOO and aren't the Obsession can see the Obsession at any distance instead?
    And they reveal their aura to the Obsession when looking at them.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Idk, i don't like that Perk weakening either, it was fine by me, so i made something up in 5 seconds. :p

    THATS actually a really good idea! Seriously, at least you have something from that perk of your not the obsession 
  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @DemonDaddy said:
    @Spork
    Your right, its not mandatory for killers. Same is true for survivors though, you don't have to have both, but if it being useless or taken away mid game worries you either skip it or back it up. Just depends how many are going to run it every game. Same as killer, you have to plan around the most common choices.

    Forcing a Survivor to use Decisive Strike if they want to use Object of Obsession, because if they don't and they're not the Obsession they can't use it, is a bit of a stretch. It's past being a combo like ruin and thrill to make your chances of using it better, you just flat out CAN'T USE IT if you're not the Obsession. It's not a good change.

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @HavelmomDaS1 said:
    Spork said:

    @HavelmomDaS1 said:

    What do you mean, when got ooo nerfed? It's still the same or not and you don't need to be the obsession to get the use if it 

    Check news and read the new DS changes, and how it will effect the other perks (Specifically Object of Obsession.)

    Checked it, #########? Why did they nerfed OoO so heavily? I don't get it, it was in a really good spot and I loved to use it as solo. Seems like I can't use it anymore cuz beeing the obsession isn't always guaranteed.. I dont like the change

    I hope they change it during PTB before everything goes live.

  • SporkSpork Member Posts: 122

    @Boss said:
    What if those who run OOO and aren't the Obsession can see the Obsession at any distance instead?
    And they reveal their aura to the Obsession when looking at them.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Idk, i don't like that Perk weakening either, it was fine by me, so i made something up in 5 seconds. :p

    EDIT: WOOPS, forgot to add a downside to it.
    Which could be the same actually, just have the Killer see your aura.

    It'd be an interesting change but it's not much different than using Bond. There's not much to just being able to see the Obsession the whole game.

  • DemonDaddyDemonDaddy Member Posts: 3,297
    edited February 2019
    @Spork
    That's a valid concern and one you should address to the Dev's. While the problem is much easier to deal in swf, solo does become more challenging. Seeing as how that perk makes you a prime target for tunneling I don't know why you wouldn't want the deterrent. Both can make you the obsession and if you don't start as the target, it can still make it usable later in the match. But then you also have the fact that even if you use both it can be stripped away by a random, possibly after regaining it with ds us no longer available. I can see your concerns (some of which Dev's will need to elaborate on) but I can also see the dev's trying to create situational uncertainty. You can no longer guarantee you'll be able to relay the information for a full match unless among a 4 man swf.
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