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So Clown's the least Lethal Killer on PC

se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,302
edited July 15 in General Discussions

Highest and Lowest Kill Rates

This chart shows the deadliest (yellow) and least deadly (red) Killers per platform. These stats are an average for all ranks. Since there are four Survivors, a 50% kill rate equates to two Survivors escaping and two Survivors dying.

I didn't really count in Legion since they're due for a neutering soon. Heck, with the less hormones running through the teenagers' system.. they might end up more lethal.

So what can be done to improve Jeffrey?

Suggestions taken from the thread itself and some of my personal ones;

  • Minor exhaustion debuff part of base gas. Would require survivors to "take a breather", aka stop running away (thus letting the Clown close in faster) if they want exhaustion gone.
  • Intoxication duration increases based upon time spent in the gas.
  • Remove the grunting he makes when he vaults a window. It'd allow him so more freedom when it comes to playing mind-games.
  • Reduced reload duration.
  • Release clouds of gas while reloading.
  • No slowdown while throwing.
  • Increased intoxication duration (Eether 10 or 15 by default).
  • Increased slow effect (Flask of Bleach by default).
  • Generators inside gas automatically start regressing if there's no survivor working on them.
  • More bottles, more fun.
  • Exposure effect on survivors hit by a bottle (Redhead's Pinky Finger add-on by default)
  • Extra potent effect for hitting a survivor directly, like stronger slow than normal or bigger gas area of effect.
  • Survivors hit directly with a bottle get doused in the Tonic, making them leave a trail of gas for a few seconds.
  • Survivors who're intoxicated cannot see the Red Stain.
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  • se05239se05239 Member Posts: 3,302

    @Orion His killrate would probably be higher if they counted DCs as kills. At least it feels that way..

  • NuclearBurritoNuclearBurrito Member Posts: 3,434

    Yeah. The most useful forms of data showed here is the game length (since it is organized by rank) and SWF odds (Be careful it is easy to misinterpret)

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    The chart you give is worthless information. Nurse billy and Spirit are the top 3 killers atm. Atleast on pc. Freddy, wraith and it’s a top up between trapper doc and pig as the worse killers

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @NuclearBurrito Even the game length isn't that significant due to hatch standoffs and farming matches (which most often occur when one or more survivors don't make it into the trial and when one or more survivors disconnect).

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    Tydetime on YouTube gives a fairly accurate tier ranking on killers

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @BlazeNightash Hard data is more accurate than any one player's opinion.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @orion he does go off hard data and tourney info/gameplay but his is more based for pc not console

  • PigNRunPigNRun Member Posts: 1,865

    The problem is the following. Notice how the ones with the lowest kill ratio are the least played Killers (outside of Legion... maybe?). Less matches used as sample means bad matches are amplified, because people who play him are those who are doing it for a daily just once or trying him out (and failing), morr than those who understand how to actually play him.

    Clown is a simple Killer to get into, but way more complicated to use to his full potential. A good Clown with appropriate perks is deadly. Definitely not saying he doesnt need buffs, he definitely does, but his potential is way higher than whats shown here.

    Plague is a combination of both cases. She has so many counters and is also played a lot less than the average. She is also still fairly new (especially from the Survivor perspective).

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @BlazeNightash So he had access to the hard data that the devs recently gave us before the data was made available?

  • letuceletuce Member Posts: 88

    Just because you've tried those and haven't bothered trying to make them work, or you just follow the crowds complaint doesn't make those stats true. Ask anyone who mains Freddy what their average is. You'll be surprised.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @letuce no I have tried those I can make any killer work at purple ranks but once you get into red ranks no Killer but nurse works so don’t assume I haven’t played and made them work. They’re just in garbage in general. When you play against potato survs all day you can make bloodlust [BAD WORD] nurse work

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    Going off data, win rates etc, Etc you can go look for yourself really

  • OrionOrion Member Posts: 11,721

    @BlazeNightash But the only hard data we have that's of any use comes from the developers. Self-reported stats are a drop in the ocean.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @Orion while that’s true you can still see it’s a fairly accurate list based on others gameplays and your own, nobody can argue nurse isn’t best, especially since she’s literally the only viable killer at red ranks atm

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    hag Kinda is d tier. She’s very add-on, Perk and map reliance. She’s slower and struggles on loops, you can also mind game average hag players fairly easy with her own traps. Swfs absolutely destroy her.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @poweas please explain what ranks you play at because if it’s not anywhere near low purple I’m at take your opinion as invalid

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    Can literally play bloodlust nurse at rank 8 and 4K lmao

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @Poweas I don’t believe It sorry played a lot of hag she’s one my favs. I played against plenty of hags and never had a single one 4K in my games in the last 6 months. Barely any 3ks most of the time they get one to zero kills and usually that’s cause they’re face camping the [BAD WORD] out of that One player. And hag is very loopable if you know what you’re doing as a surv

  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 4,588

    Hag isn't your favourite. You don't understand her properly.

    If you played her a lot, you'd definitely have sense.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @Poweas ya ok hag is so good, [BAD WORD] billy and nurse players struggling at Red ranks but you over here trying to convince me hag can do better

  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 4,588

    @BlazeNightash looking at the kill rates, yes. She can. Also you said the Billy and Nurse players are s*** which means that they will obviously struggle LOL. Face it, Hag is better than D tier, she's SS tier (Nurse and Spirit are SSS) and she can easily win.

    You're wrong.

  • PoweasPoweas Member Posts: 4,588

    Hag is always going to be SS tier unless they nerf her.

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    @poweas kill rates for what lmao? The ones up top? Those are just for one week and doesn’t even give what ranks it pulling it From or if a full team ornament survs or not

  • BlazeNightashBlazeNightash Member Posts: 87

    Ss tier ya I’m done if you honestly think that. You clearly don’t know what killers are powerful

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