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All these disrespectful threads need to stop.

Seriously people, this is supposed to be an M rated game.

All these threads bashing and insulting the developers - even calling them by their actual names and saying personal stuff - saying their work is worthless garbage, that they're clueless, this and that.

Man. This just shows how much of a spoiled, disrespectful, narrowminded community this game has. I guess you would all love to be bashed and insulted in a public forum. But sarcasm aside, I already know you'd be crying about being cyber-bullied and needing hugs and little pats in the back.

You're the ones actually being a disgrace. Not to your jobs (because I bet most of you don't even have one) but a disgrace to decency and basic good manners.

There's a huge difference between being vocal about criticism on one hand and being disgustingly rude on the other one. You're only guaranteeing absolutely no one takes you seriously. You know, like a spoiled 4 year old kid throwing tantrums, yelling, spitting, kicking, drooling. Just like that.

If you're used to acting like jerks to each other in the threads and you allow it/promote it, don't take the same attitude to the devs, which have never participated in any name calling or disrespected you in a personal level.


Many will argue that criticism gets ignored time and again and that they have to act like punks to get their point across.


I disagree. If you are tired of trying to provide constructive feedback just to get ignored, you should:

a) Leave, since you're convinced you're getting ignored, and there's no point

or

b) Stay, voice your inconformity in a respectful manner and then vote with your wallet. So many of you just rush and trip on your way to the store every time a cosmetic or DLC is released, and will be the first ones throwing money at the battle pass or whatever the name will be.

I didn't like Legion, I'm not fully convinced about Plague, and I don't like Ghostface. Guess what, I won't buy any of them until I actually like them, if ever. But there's no need to be an idiot about it.


If you dislike the game, the decisions, or even the devs in a personal level and you're willing to be a jerk about it, do everyone a favor and take your bad manners somewhere else. Like your own house, where they surely belong.

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  • Tzeentchling9Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    Constructive criticism has previously been met with open scorn(remember the Spirit PTB was only 2 hours old) and complete disregard (Plague 4ks at rank 1 and you all need to learn how to use her).

    Not much left to turn to after that.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    Take option A) if you're really convinced about that. No need to be rude about it.

    If half the things that are being said here behind anonimity were said in a real life neighborhood, teeth would fly all over the place.

  • weirdkid5weirdkid5 Member Posts: 1,916
    edited June 2019

    Sounds like a party to me.

    Seriously though, I've thought about going to a Con and asking BHVR respectful, yet difficult and uncomfortable questions about their process so that they can't run away from the issue without forcing me out of the Con.

    Very few of the developers actually speak with us. It's mostly liaisons between us and them. Pretty ineffective imo.

    Corey Barlog for instance was very open about their process for God of War, and would directly respond to and speak with people about the game.

    Dave Richard hardly ever shows his face anymore.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    DbD has a forum, a twitter account, streams, and people whose job is actually communicating with the playerbase.

    If you think you've been ignored and their job is not good, stop paying for it and look for a better game. My guess is you've already milked enough hours out of an entertainment product with a price tag around $20 - $80 USD for the full stuff.

    No one has spit in your face, ever. Stop it.

  • Tzeentchling9Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    Your option a) is for quitters and those who don't want the game to improve. Those people leave without a word and you never see them again.

    The most vocal are those who appreciate the game and want it to succeed.

  • Tzeentchling9Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796
  • SupernautSupernaut Member Posts: 1,103

    Bang on the money. Bumping back to front page.

  • Alther_PrimusAlther_Primus Member Posts: 128

    On the one hand, I agree and honestly in spite of my massive salt regarding certain recent reveals, I'm not the kind of person to go after people personally, and I think that the people that go full personal bash are probably hurting their willingness to deal with the community.

    On the other hand though, this time due to my massive salt, I'm starting to actually enjoy watching the saltstorms manifest. Honestly, I'm not surprised people are fed up with them though, and when valid concerns get hand waved away with stats I can definitely see why people get the way they do. I think BHVR can rebuild the trust they had with most of the community around 2.0, but it'd be a long, rough road with very little room for error.

  • Condorloco_26Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714

    @DocOctober They have received a ton of criticism lately, for sure. I haven't agreed with many decisions they've made either. I've posted my inconformity in a civilized manner and I've already voted with my wallet about some of those decisions.

    You said it right, it will take some effort to fully regain the trust of their community veterans.

    What I'm just saying is there's no need to get personal or rude with them. It shows a lack of maturity from many forum members, and it only guarantees that whatever is being said just gets discarded and ignored as a childish rant.

  • MegaWaffleMegaWaffle Member Posts: 3,965

    Look I have my own issues with the game but I don't openly harass the Dev team. I have voiced concerns, made my own opinions and even suggested changes I'd personally like to see. At the end of the day its their game and they can do with it what they will. I have to say the team at BHVR is one of the most socially active/engaged teams I have ever seen. They have frequent streams and are always interacting with the community. The issue isn't that they "aren't listening" but that everyone wants to see exactly what THEY want implemented and if that isn't the case they lash out like children.

    Sure not everyone is like this as we have some great people on these forums but due to so many people living in "echo chambers" where they can feel empowered by screaming online with no penalty for their words they continue to foster this toxic behavior.

    I'm not a huge fan of the current direction of the game (although I do like some of the changes that are in the works, we shall see) and thus have taken a big break from the game, only playing a couple matches every now and then. I'm not quitting the game as I love it as a whole product and really do enjoy the team behind it.

    I wish them all the best as nobody wants a project they poured all their time and passion into destroyed, and I know BHVR wants to see this game continue to grow.

  • DocOctoberDocOctober Member Posts: 2,230

    As I said, I too am against personal attacks, but considering how Feedback got ignored in general, constructive or not, I get why people turn to the less civil version of it out of frustration.

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 7,593

    Well said.

    So many shameful, vulgar, entitled posts.

    It has been disgusting. Far too many brats behaving like DBD/BHVR/Ghostface is ruining their life.

    GROW!

    UP!

    Learn some civil etiquette and decorum.

    I feel terrible for all of the team responsible for monitoring all this online activity and anyone at BHVR they need to pass it back onto.

    I hope they have good strategies for mental health.

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 7,593

    Nope.

    Never.

    Not in a million years is this “understandable”.

    This is simply a video game, not a fight against a global/social threat.

  • sorrowensorrowen Member Posts: 742

    Well the majority of this is just people have had it with products released in a awful state or even put in ptb at a bad state. There is a limit to patience

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 7,593

    PTB.

    Public Test Build.

    TEST.

    BUILD.

    Geez why does it go over peoples heads that they’re going to be previewing new content in an imperfect state, AND not recognise the immense privilege BHVR is giving their player base in comparison to other studios and their methods for releasing new content.

    By all means show us, BHVR, and the rest of the world YOUR digital entertainment product that you got perfect first go. Because it’s just that easy.

  • Dr_TrautsDr_Trauts Member Posts: 648

    Mate can you climb on down from your high horse for a quick second?

    Maybe if you actually open your eyes and see the games current state, you might be able to see why the community is as outraged as it is. Yeah im also against personal attacks on the devs, but sometimes they need to be told what to do and how to do it by their community, actually open their eyes and do what the community wants.

    Not gut killers that didn't need gutting or releasing killers half finished. If the devs cared enough to release working content (not necessarily bug-free from the get-go because mistakes happen) but at least a functional product, then i think the community would care enough to address them with a bit more dignity.

  • megdonaldsmegdonalds Member Posts: 641

    Just nailed it.

  • BadMrFrostyBadMrFrosty Member Posts: 590

    I'm torn on how common these posts are. On one hand, I'm happy more of them are showing up so that the general discontent of some players can have a chance to be heard. On the other hand, I'm seriously sad it has gotten to this point when it could've been prevented by the developers if they were only willing to listen from the very start.

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