I've been to rank 1 several times. Wraith main, but mostly Billy lately. Let me know when you get out of rank 15 survivor. :) An infinite as it was once known, is something that is legitimately infinite. Those are gone.
Infinites as they are known now are overpowered loops that allows survivors to exploit 2 or more windows/pallets in ridiculous succession with little room for mind games (Mind games I'm betting most of you are terrible at, considering you're crying about a window), that can last for literal minutes in the same location. Infinites are not literally infinite, they are simply overpowered loops that require no skill to use and abuse. Not your typical merry-go-round loops like a jungle gym or L wall/T wall or junk pile.
The shack fits that bill (albeit, it's small). As does iron works, the pale rose, myers house in haddonfield, house with basement in both haddonfield and badham, certain iterations of coal tower, the asylum on crotus penn, some iterations of the chapel (clown map) etc.
It's amusing to see so many baby survivors freaking out that they can't abuse them anymore. It's even more amusing to see that you complain about bamboozle.
Shack is not an infinite. Unless you're an absolute trash killer (like yourself who thinks it is) clearly. If you're getting infinited @ shack, you have some serious problems as a killer you need to look into m8.
Since all you can do is insult me, I'll assume victory. <3
I've most likely been to rank 1 more times as killer than you've been beyond rank 10 as survivor. I'm probably a much better survivor than you too.
Seriously - cry more. This was always the way vaults were intended to work. You've been exploiting an in game mechanic this entire time, creating an imbalance. It's not the end of the world. Adapt.
There is nothing close to true infinites anymore. There are areas that come close like the main building in the Asylum, main house in Suffocation Pit, etc., but these changes do nothing whatsoever to affect them, so it's irrelevant to even bring them up.
I touched on that already. Infinites have a new meaning. They aren't truly infinite, they are just way, way too overpowered. It's common knowledge in the DBD community and it's still a commonly used term to describe said loops. Welcome to 2019.
The thing most of you rank 15 survivor mains are forgetting is, the killer is supposed to be the power role. While it should always be possible to win a chase, the odds should always tip in the killers favor. Always.
And they absolutely do affect those infinite. You can no longer hug the wall before a fast vault. You have to turn wide, losing distance and momentum.
You're literally a child... Look up my profile, I was an alpha tester, been rank 1 multiple times if you really want to assume everyone here is baby survivors/killers.
Is that really the best you can come up with? "im probably a better survivor than you" is actually pathetic m8. My point stands, shack isn't an infinite.
You clearly have issues as a killer if you're getting infinited. Idc about the fast vaults, I'm stating shack isn't infinite, re-read my post if that's too hard for you.
I haven't personally attacked anyone here. Not sure what you consider an insult, but I implore you to consult the nearest dictionary as soon as possible. It may help.
Now, am I sarcastic? Yep. Condescending? Hell yeah; but I'm very careful with my words. I'm not insulting anyone.
As for your "experience" at purple ranks - perhaps you just don't know how to run the shack. You can milk that building for multiple gens, even without the pallet at times. I've done that against some fairly well known killers in the community. Killers that you wouldn't say are bad in any sense. Edgar, Scott, Tofu etc. Edgar face camped the [BAD WORD] out of me for it, which was awesome.
Perhaps we have a difference of opinion on what constitutes an infinite - but I've run people in the shack for as long as I've run people in the Myers house on Haddonfield, or Iron Works etc. It's got the potential to be very powerful. Or, had. Since you can't abuse the god pallet anymore, and have to either throw it down sooner or leave the shack.
In the 2.1k hours I have in this game, I don't think I have ever thought of the shack as an infinite... strong loop, yes, but definitely not an infinite.
not sure if you are a troll or just really really stupid. calling everyone a noob or rank 15 survivor who disagree with you wont help your arguement either. i mean everyone disagree with you, and instead admitting that you are wrong you insult them. im sure you are not that old but still thats a [BAD WORD] up attitute.
just waiting now for you to call me a baby survivor rank 15 crybaby :)
I've been rank 1 as survivor pretty much every month, sans a couple when I barely played and I have over three thousand hours. Yes, the killer is going to have an advantage playing against one-forth of a team, but the way that fast vaults were required skill to pull off correctly, and there is no rationale to deny that a survivor should be able to outplay a killer, which was the case. And no, the killer shouldn't have the advantage in every scenario, it's an asymmetrical horror game, but the team combined is supposed to equal the killer in power... what an asinine thing to state. If you can't break loops, you simply are a really bad killer.
For context - a little over a year ago I was saying the same crap to him that you guys are saying to me. I got banned from the steam forums over my heated arguments with this guy. I played killer to rank 1, saw what he and 95% of killer mains are talking about, and I've got his back as much as he has mine. I implore you all to do the same. It will really change your perspective on things.
Ghost Face is getting nerfed so this is fair and balanced. My killer that was a part of my favorite franchise growing up is about to be nerfed, this is fair then. Besides, it's supposed to be 3 steps for enough momentum to fast vault. It's been like that for awhile. The way you was doing it up until now WAS a bug. I play survivor more than killer and I had no problem making Ghost Face my bitch all day and no problems with fast vaults in the shack.
I just had this happen to me. Ran to the shack window, curved to get the fast vault angle and still got the medium vault causing me to get hit. I thought it was lag then I saw it's a change. Even though I play mostly killer I think that's proper bullshit. Might as well make it so every vault animation kills the survivor automatically via the entity.
And it doesn't make sense that a swollen killer gets stunned by a flashlight or pallet. Shall we remove that aswell? Games aren't good if they are realistic. They are good when the gameplay is fun and balanced.
Uh tbh, I don't understand the problem. I played yesterday many, many trials and I didn't notice any difference. Those changes are for me barely noticable.
I could fast vault at any time like before. Maybe that's because I always run straight to it or do a little curve to trigger the event.
I could run my loops and do my mindgames without problems...
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I don't blame you - you have no counters. Good day, Beavis.
I've been to rank 1 several times. Wraith main, but mostly Billy lately. Let me know when you get out of rank 15 survivor. :) An infinite as it was once known, is something that is legitimately infinite. Those are gone.
Infinites as they are known now are overpowered loops that allows survivors to exploit 2 or more windows/pallets in ridiculous succession with little room for mind games (Mind games I'm betting most of you are terrible at, considering you're crying about a window), that can last for literal minutes in the same location. Infinites are not literally infinite, they are simply overpowered loops that require no skill to use and abuse. Not your typical merry-go-round loops like a jungle gym or L wall/T wall or junk pile.
The shack fits that bill (albeit, it's small). As does iron works, the pale rose, myers house in haddonfield, house with basement in both haddonfield and badham, certain iterations of coal tower, the asylum on crotus penn, some iterations of the chapel (clown map) etc.
It's amusing to see so many baby survivors freaking out that they can't abuse them anymore. It's even more amusing to see that you complain about bamboozle.
Shack is not an infinite. Unless you're an absolute trash killer (like yourself who thinks it is) clearly. If you're getting infinited @ shack, you have some serious problems as a killer you need to look into m8.
Since all you can do is insult me, I'll assume victory. <3
I've most likely been to rank 1 more times as killer than you've been beyond rank 10 as survivor. I'm probably a much better survivor than you too.
Seriously - cry more. This was always the way vaults were intended to work. You've been exploiting an in game mechanic this entire time, creating an imbalance. It's not the end of the world. Adapt.
so you forgetting infinite loops, pallets, insta heals, flashlight saves and other stuff to?
There is nothing close to true infinites anymore. There are areas that come close like the main building in the Asylum, main house in Suffocation Pit, etc., but these changes do nothing whatsoever to affect them, so it's irrelevant to even bring them up.
I touched on that already. Infinites have a new meaning. They aren't truly infinite, they are just way, way too overpowered. It's common knowledge in the DBD community and it's still a commonly used term to describe said loops. Welcome to 2019.
The thing most of you rank 15 survivor mains are forgetting is, the killer is supposed to be the power role. While it should always be possible to win a chase, the odds should always tip in the killers favor. Always.
And they absolutely do affect those infinite. You can no longer hug the wall before a fast vault. You have to turn wide, losing distance and momentum.
You're literally a child... Look up my profile, I was an alpha tester, been rank 1 multiple times if you really want to assume everyone here is baby survivors/killers.
Is that really the best you can come up with? "im probably a better survivor than you" is actually pathetic m8. My point stands, shack isn't an infinite.
You clearly have issues as a killer if you're getting infinited. Idc about the fast vaults, I'm stating shack isn't infinite, re-read my post if that's too hard for you.
You’re insulting others so is everyone a winner?
My experience on both sides at purple ranks says it isn’t infinite.
I haven't personally attacked anyone here. Not sure what you consider an insult, but I implore you to consult the nearest dictionary as soon as possible. It may help.
Now, am I sarcastic? Yep. Condescending? Hell yeah; but I'm very careful with my words. I'm not insulting anyone.
As for your "experience" at purple ranks - perhaps you just don't know how to run the shack. You can milk that building for multiple gens, even without the pallet at times. I've done that against some fairly well known killers in the community. Killers that you wouldn't say are bad in any sense. Edgar, Scott, Tofu etc. Edgar face camped the [BAD WORD] out of me for it, which was awesome.
Perhaps we have a difference of opinion on what constitutes an infinite - but I've run people in the shack for as long as I've run people in the Myers house on Haddonfield, or Iron Works etc. It's got the potential to be very powerful. Or, had. Since you can't abuse the god pallet anymore, and have to either throw it down sooner or leave the shack.
In the 2.1k hours I have in this game, I don't think I have ever thought of the shack as an infinite... strong loop, yes, but definitely not an infinite.
As a killer main I found this change very unnecessary
Idk, if infinite loops was a problem so why they didn't remove the number of windows instead of this?
not sure if you are a troll or just really really stupid. calling everyone a noob or rank 15 survivor who disagree with you wont help your arguement either. i mean everyone disagree with you, and instead admitting that you are wrong you insult them. im sure you are not that old but still thats a [BAD WORD] up attitute.
just waiting now for you to call me a baby survivor rank 15 crybaby :)
I've been rank 1 as survivor pretty much every month, sans a couple when I barely played and I have over three thousand hours. Yes, the killer is going to have an advantage playing against one-forth of a team, but the way that fast vaults were required skill to pull off correctly, and there is no rationale to deny that a survivor should be able to outplay a killer, which was the case. And no, the killer shouldn't have the advantage in every scenario, it's an asymmetrical horror game, but the team combined is supposed to equal the killer in power... what an asinine thing to state. If you can't break loops, you simply are a really bad killer.
I have your back on this one.
These changes don't affect normal fast vault areas. Haven't had any issues.
“Experience on both sides”
I mean you’re calling everyone disagreeing with you “baby survivors”. Maybe you just don’t know how to run it as killer?
😎 Thanks bud.
For context - a little over a year ago I was saying the same crap to him that you guys are saying to me. I got banned from the steam forums over my heated arguments with this guy. I played killer to rank 1, saw what he and 95% of killer mains are talking about, and I've got his back as much as he has mine. I implore you all to do the same. It will really change your perspective on things.
I wouldn't get to rank 1 killer if I couldn't run the killer shack. Just stop. It's not working.
Perhaps I didn't realise the problem with the new fast vault. Oh no how terrible.
oh...my god
well, this contextualizes a lot
Ghost Face is getting nerfed so this is fair and balanced. My killer that was a part of my favorite franchise growing up is about to be nerfed, this is fair then. Besides, it's supposed to be 3 steps for enough momentum to fast vault. It's been like that for awhile. The way you was doing it up until now WAS a bug. I play survivor more than killer and I had no problem making Ghost Face my bitch all day and no problems with fast vaults in the shack.
GRAMPA!
IDK man, either you get medium vault, or you get a fast vault and you still getting hit.
it's important to nerf vaults when they already don't work properly so that people can get hit through windows even more often
this whole patch has felt VER VERY clunky
they wont change it you should focus on hiding and not looping like a toxic player that most ppl are
Just a small correction:
Not a Killer main 😎
We wouldn’t be here saying the killer shack isn’t infinite if it was. Just stop, it isn’t working.
So you can't explain? Thought so, biased killer main.
I just had this happen to me. Ran to the shack window, curved to get the fast vault angle and still got the medium vault causing me to get hit. I thought it was lag then I saw it's a change. Even though I play mostly killer I think that's proper bullshit. Might as well make it so every vault animation kills the survivor automatically via the entity.
And it doesn't make sense that a swollen killer gets stunned by a flashlight or pallet. Shall we remove that aswell? Games aren't good if they are realistic. They are good when the gameplay is fun and balanced.
Uh tbh, I don't understand the problem. I played yesterday many, many trials and I didn't notice any difference. Those changes are for me barely noticable.
I could fast vault at any time like before. Maybe that's because I always run straight to it or do a little curve to trigger the event.
I could run my loops and do my mindgames without problems...