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Do Killers Need A Buff?



  • MegMain98MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,054

    A LOT of maps need a rework first of all.

    Killers in general do not need a buff. Certain killers either need a rework or quality of life fixes. General killer buffs would only make killers like Nurse EVEN MORE powerful while only slightly buffing killers like Leatherface.

    Some killers are in a decent place like Hag. Some are VERY strong like Nurse and Spirit. Some are VERY weak like Leatherface and Trapper. There needs to be a way to give weaker killers QOL changes and NOT buffing killers like Nurse and Spirit.

  • SlayerSlayer Member Posts: 1,148
    edited July 2019

    Its killers job to provide survivors with secondary objectives like saving each other healing each other not devs job.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453

    Your experience comes from consoles and low rank pc.

    Consoles are nothing like pc. Its a whole different meta.

    I´d recommend you to reach rank 1 killer on pc and then we can talk about survivors not hitting skill checks or games taking forever.

  • AntiPlague12898AntiPlague12898 Member Posts: 51

    rank 15 killer??? and you're trying to talk to us about balance?

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    Which when you look at the gameplay it's a lot of the same, you can claim the meta is different but the results are the same, you play killer you win games easy without needing to try up to rank 10, even then you have the ability and knowledge to compete at the high ranks, just because some not everyone can 4k with every killer does not mean they need any buffs, just a few changes

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    Uhhh yeah? If you say killers need a buff because of red ranks on PC the all the other ranks are gonna be screwed. Console isn't as good as PC and yet killer is too easy to play on console. What I'm saying is if it's killers getting bullied in a single color of rank on 1 platform is it the really the killers fault? Or the fault of the people?

  • GrootDudeGrootDude Member, Trusted Posts: 13,725

    @Tsulan the only difference in the meta from console to pc is that pc players play Nurse more, people still hit most skill checks.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 3,744

    honestly, i dont think we need buffs for killer right now.

    what we need first is the devs finally fixing objective times and map reworks.

    oh, and the emblem system needs some reworks (e.g. a "cought" score event for the chaser emblem that counts grabs or a "trapped" score event for the chaser emblem for trapper specifically)

    i dont think killers need an overall buff, rather fixes at some points (e.g. trap hitboxes).

    the only killers i see actually needing a real buff right now would be Bubba and Legion.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453

    @GrootDude are we really discussing about the easy rank ups of a rank 15 killer?

    Consoles have lesser frames, downgraded graphics and different controls than PC.

    Maybe if we had cross play, then we could see the differences more clearly.

  • TsulanTsulan Member Posts: 5,453
  • Atrushan88Atrushan88 Member Posts: 1,788

    I don't think killers need buffs. I think we need all maps need to be the same size with the same general setup(doors in the same spots, possibly hatch in the same spot, same amount of pallets per map, maybe not in the same locations but the same amount definitely) so that any map is not killer or survivor favored specifically. If all killers perform the same across all maps, we can then address killers that are weak or strong.

  • HazeHoundHazeHound Member Posts: 774

    Killers are fine. Its maps that need tweaks.

    Burning Haddonfield, Red forest or Crotus prenn and taking balanced landing should not be an almost guaranteed win.

  • ThePigUwUThePigUwU Member Posts: 4

    I don't see why someone's point is invalid unless they've hit rank 1. Yeah survivors are easy in the lower ranks, but when I was rank 15 I would sometimes be matched with purple and red ranks. It seems as though people only want killers buffed because of experience in the high ranks; but when you do that then it'll make it even more difficult than it already is for the lower ranked survivors to do anything.

  • ElusivePukkaElusivePukka Member Posts: 673

    Killers don't need buffs. Maps and perks invalidated by mechanics changing need to be looked at. I'm down for QoL changes on a lot of killers, but if killers in general get buffed it'll just mean "more of the same but stronger" rather than a restructured and better distributed balance.

  • GodDamn_AngelaGodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 1,059

    All Killers? No.

    Some? Yes. Clown, Plague, Leather Face and Legion come to mind.

  • VolfawottVolfawott Member Posts: 2,255

    Honestly get to read ranks before you make a decision.

    You literally can't rank down from 20 to 15 so it incredibly easy to rank up from those levels as long as you're competent.

    Not saying anyone needs a buff or not for now just it'll little help you get a better understanding.

  • thesuicidefoxthesuicidefox Member Posts: 6,406

    No killers don't need buffs. It's easier than ever to play killer now.

    What the game needs is a nerf to survivors. Specifically, some sort of limit to how fast they can do generators. Do that and you instantly make every killer below Billy viable at high ranks.

    And when I say "nerf" I mean that whatever it is, it only ONLY affects survivors that rush gens. It should not have any impact on survivors that pace themselves (eg. low rank survivors). Just so that killers have opportunities to make plays.

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I'm glad you asked, and the answer is no. But since we are on that subject, I don't have any fun playing killer, it's too easy. The survivors can't put up a challenge even when I'm going against green ranks. I'm not even using a godly build, or using my power that often (i.e. maybe 2 times a game) or even sweating. If you'd like I can share my channel so you can see what I mean if that would help you understand what I'm talking about

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I understand what your saying, and I agree I should probably get a little lower and see how things are, but the issue have is I when I hop on to play killer I can maybe get 3 games in before I get bored, cause every game is pretty much the same, only difference is the amount of gens done which, for me, is never less then 2 gens left maybe 1. So while I do understand what you're saying, and I agree, I just feel there isn't a challenge especially when you take into account that people either wanna 2 pip or don't care as survivor

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I'll be honest, just saw this comment. Annnnnnd you're trying to argue PC is harder than Console? Cause you're right, it is. But if you saw my earlier comment it isn't balancing if it's at one tier on one platform, maybe cross play could fix the issues we have maybe it would make them worse, but my guy. Are you honestly trying to argue with people who are giving opinions and facts? Cause I don't think you've said anything other telling people to get to rank 1 on PC before their point is valid, and I'll apologize for not wanting to spend $1k on a gaming PC to play a game to get to rank 1 killer to prove my point

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    It was hard to read, but I think I understand, and yeah looping is an issue, but until the survivors get an alternative to pallets for surviving I can't blame them, in a game where the killer is faster and has powers there isn't a lot a survivor can do besides loop and get it over as quickly as they can. If you have ideas for survivors to have a different way to live longer I'd love to hear them, and then we can talk about killer buffs

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    If you see my latest comment to Tsulan, we can talk about it after you check it out if you'd like

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    Perhaps an addition to bloodlust that makes it if the killer is spending too much time in one spot the entity makes a noise and blocks the pallet? Or maybe a totem that if the killer praises too they get a 5tg perk that's random?

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I'm interested but don't those killers have teleporting powers or traps? Maybe give killers that have less than 115% speed and give them a 1% movement speed increase with every hit, but it maxes out at 10%? But in return they get a 1% decrease is recovery when missing swings, abilities, or when survivors struggle on their back. Killers should get this option through getting a totem?

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I feel in my experience pallets are fine the way they are, but maybe make the window on the infinites max out at 4 and then it blocked for the game? And maybe since its the killers shack make it more balanced to the killer so when the survivor enters it they slowly lose this mind due to the entity unless on a hook or killers shoulders

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    It's a good idea, but I feel killers wouldn't care about it when they are busy chasing survivors, maybe make them repair after a certain amount of gens are done?

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I've stated this a couple times if you haven't seen, but I like reply to everybody, i don't think my opinion is invalid because I haven't played killer much, i have mained survivor at higher ranks, it's pretty much all the same up to purple ranks

  • Nea_Death_ExperienceNea_Death_Experience Member Posts: 316

    Once you go purple you will see that killers need a buff

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    On paper what you said makes sense, and that's why at rank 1 I can see this being an issue for really good survivors, but what I've noticed and you never mentioned players play style, or the pip system, which if a survivor wants to pip they need to go and save or do every gen and never go down

  • VCDiamondFinderVCDiamondFinder Member Posts: 62

    I honestly hope so, cause when I go down their and if the game isn't any different I'll be upset at all the people complaining about killer buffs

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