Or you could just.....not be lazy and cleanse that dull totem you ran past 20 times this match? Whats the point of having dull totem cleansing if survivors aren't gonna do it or come up with some excuse as to why not to do it? I look at it this way. A killer gets punished if you don't hook anyone you're likely to lose that match. If a killer doesn't kick gens, you're likely to have that gen go off. If you don't heal yourself as a survivor you're likely 1 tapped and downed. Its almost as if there's consequences for not playing the game optimally. If you refuse to cleanse dull totems or hexes you have to deal with the consequence of those actions should the killer have perks that punish your ignorance of play. It really is that simple.
It's not me that's being lazy, I almost exclusively play killer nowadays.
Just my opinion on the perk, don't respect it at all. I think it's one of the cheapest ways to get kills as killer.
Punishes survivors for not doing their second objective.
No, let's not.
Sure, when survivors talk about Adrenaline with honesty, I'll be more than happy to talk about NOED...
Adrenaline rewards you for doing your job, not failing it
easy counter-don’t let survivors finish the gens
killer main btw
NOED Rewards you for keeping unlit totems, or for survivors failing to get all totems.
It's frustrating to go against all Adrenaline survivors when you're doing well. It completely stops the snowball effect killers benefit from.
Sometimes you as a killer are not in a position to stop all the gens.
My fellow survivors need to stop crying about this, it's easy to deal with and you should always assume the worst, rid of the perks and stop spending so much time:
A. Being toxic and t-bagging the killer
B. Hiding and doing no gens
C.Gen Rushing only
All of the above are people tunnelling one mindset and not doing well on pips aside from healing themselves and escaping so like 2 categories. If you aren't playing the whole game, you deserve to get rekt by NOED, it's annoying seeing someone not respect killers.
NOED will be reworked someday. Every patch totems spawn is improved. And also now you can have 100% NOED at the end with trapper or hag in many maps. In 2 or 3 patchs NOED will be the new meta perk.
I don't agree NOED rewards a Killer for playing badly any more than Adrenaline rewards a Survivor for playing badly.
You spend an entire perk slot maybe to get a bonus in the endgame. So you're playing handicapped. In addition, NOED has a simple counter: do the totems. They're not that hard to do, and they even award BP and now emblem progress as well.
I feel like NOED in its original form, with no time limit or totem counter, was too much. As it stands, it just doesn't seem to be a real problem.
This is especially apparent for killers with low mobility and no way to teleport sprint or move across a large map to effectively protect gens. Perks like NoED and Ruin and some others help relieve the fact that you can't be as present as say a nurse or spirit or billy or even legion.
They should have a perk that increases your speed if survivors are outside of your terror radius!
Hahahahahahaha… wait you didn't make joke. Yeah because every killer keeps up after survivors like Nurse, Spirit or Billy.
Maybe that's a buff for whispers.
I mean...a perk like that would be powerful for a lot of killers. People like leatherface who bumble around a map the whole time. It would have powerful implications for low terror radius killers as well. And it would combo well with perks that reduce your terror radius like monitor and abuse. It would also improve pigs default stalk and be powerful for ghostface.....until your stalk gets broken and you have a terror radius again. It would also combo really well with the obsession terror radius perk.
noed takes no sklll to use boom bang
This scares the NOED player
it's giving the killer another chance to easily down a survivor(s)
Yes, its a SECOND CHANCE PERK. Survivors also have second chance perks (which are harder to counter btw).
Doing totems is very easy, there is even a perk AND add-ons to help you find them! Hot damn! It would be nice if killers could cleanse something to get rid of that pesky adrenaline 🤔
Honestly if you get caught out by NoED that is 100% on you as a survivor.
If you are arguing NoED needs to go then BT, DS, and Adrenaline need to go as well.
But, you'd be losing a perk to directly impact gen progression, help in a chase, or slow a survivor down in the long run. It'd be directly what you make of it.
nope. Because all those perks you listed REWARDS us for good gameplay. Not like NOED.
NOED rewards bad gameplay on the killer side (because you failed to prevent gens from popping Hey, it happens).
Decisive Strike + Borrowed Time: Anti- tunneling perks. Just don’t tunnel. Simple.
Adrenaline: Doing the objective and succeeding!
@Umbrae_pk NOED rewards you for playing with only 3 perks through 5 gens, while you play with your food. Almo already countered your argument, so I’m not sure why you posted it.
So having Adrenaline for a survivor is the same thing. The killer put in all the work to down you. And you just jump back up and run away. It's the same it's useless to argue a perk because both sides have op perks and really bad ones. Noed is good for killers bad for survivors. Adrenaline God for survivors bad for killers. Do you see the redundency
Maybe you do BONES next time?
Jesus, I main survivor and could not agree more. No in their mind they earned it and are entitled to win the game with no challenge. I rarely if ever get downed by NOED but they make it seem like it is the most powerful thing in the world. Hell EGC made hatch camping even worse so now survivors don't even rescue if they found hatch and you are on hooked. Survivors are far more toxic than killers by a large margin and want an ez game.
thats the problem most mid low tier killers can be looped hard like one good survivor can be enough to stall game long enough to repair gens I play both roles I know how it is easy to play survivor u just need map knowledge and pallet spawns boom killers is fked
Killer "Maybe you do bones next time?"
Survivor "AINT NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT"
Wait. Survivors played bad when they triggered Adrenaline?
Shush, I don't want it nerfed! :(
Risking getting downed with one hit for finishing final gen is practically the same as risking final gen for ability to oneshot survivors. Survs don't care about getting healed because they get it for free. The same for killers, they encourage fast gens to get an oneshot ability faster.
@Mister_xD Repairing gens is enough especially when you have a noob on the team. I don't have time to cleanse like 5 totems, I don't know where they are and I don't have many maps. 95% of the time its an easy down for a killer but why does the killer deserve this instant down? You could say because I didn't cleanse all totems but like I said, that rarely happens. There needs to be some requirement for noed to activate because its just an easy one-hit shot for killers. Yea I also don't use decisive but at least you have to do something for it to activate.
I still love how people are complaining about a perk that gives killers a one shot... When you have killers who have a one shot ability built into the power.
You know... Hill Billy goes around the entire match with a one shot.. so does Leatherface.