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Whispers COUNTER

Given that most perks in the game have a counter of some sort or other, I can't help feel that a survivor perk which would counter Whispers is in order?

As the perk is very specific though, the counter should also be, in that you run it and the ONLY thing it would work against would be Whispers alone. Call it what you will, have it work however you like, but one suggestion would maybe be similar to the Diversion perk, ergo maybe the survivor has to be within the killer's terror radius to build up a 'rock' / device that they can then either use it to 'throw' their 'Whispers position' a full 16m or so away, or perhaps better would be that it would simply hide them from the Whispers perk and the killer would lose all signal of them being in range of it for a certain length of time (even just 5 seconds would be something.)


So, in short, Anti-Whispers perk, let's call it 'Not Hear' (as I don't think Jedi Mind Trick would go down well with Disney):

  1. Time in TR 'til activation = 10 seconds
  2. Effect lasts 6 seconds (auto) or 8 seconds (device thrown 16m away from position)
  3. Cooldown = 30 seconds.


Any thoughts?

Comments

  • AkumaAkuma Member Posts: 355

    would like some counter. but people dont give a s about whispers so it stays how it is

  • YaiPaYaiPa Member Posts: 220

    Whispers isn't that big of a deal. It's really good just to find the last survivor since you can lose as much time as you want, while even if it lits up at the start of the game near a gen, the killer can't waste much time searching for you, so he will eventually have to abandon the spot if you hide well.

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    But what good is that to you if you're the last survivor and the killer has kicked the hatch closed?

  • My_FarewellMy_Farewell Member Posts: 495

    Diversion?

  • avilmaskavilmask Member Posts: 123

    Isn't being more than one in the same area is a counter already? It already becomes useless with a hooked person in a radius. So basically "don't be the last survivor". Hatch situation is exception to all game rules, asking for privileges when you already granted a chance of free escape is just impudence.

  • AcromioAcromio Member Posts: 936

    Are you seriously complaining about one of the worst tracking perks in the game?

  • PolarBearPolarBear Member Posts: 1,122

    Whispers is fine. It doesn't pinpoint the location of the survivor. Only tells they're withing 32m.

    Only time I see whispers as "unfair" is when the killer closes hatch but the killer did manage to kill 3 survivors so it's not like he doesn't deserve the win.

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 2,369

    Hmm, there already kinda is existing perks. Maybe not necessarily a counter in that they don’t stop Whispers from activating, but warn you just before you start to hear the TR.

    Both Spine Chill & Premonition are the survivor parallel to Whispers, in so much that they don’t exactly tell you where the killer is, just that one lets you know the killer is heading in your direction, and the other tells you the general vicinity of the direction the killer is in. These perks can help you continue avoiding the killer despite Whispers making it clear to the killer that you are in the vicinity.

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 2,369
    edited August 14

    Wait?!??

    What?!??

    Have I entered the Twilight Zone or something?

    I know there are more “direct” tracking perks, and yes they’re great.

    But Whispers is a pretty powerful perk, and the only consistently reliable tracking perk because there is nothing a survivor can do to stop it from activating, hence why it’s counter-balanced by not giving an exact survivor location, just a vague approximation.

  • Bravo0413Bravo0413 Member Posts: 2,266

    Hehe xD....... in all seriousness whispers can be countered simply by being near a downed,hooked player that way it won't pick you alone up.... the longer the killer spends looking for you the more time they're wasting....... why should you waste a perk slot on something that's so easily countered now....... yes experienced killers will use this better and find survivors easier but not too many players stick with it to become "elite" with the perk..

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    So you're in a team with 3 potatoes and that = "you got outplayed"? Riiiight, 6000 IQ answer right there.

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    The point is that there are different ways of playing the game - one of which is stealth. So you could be the one survivor on the team who outplays the killer for the entire game, never being seen (which already will see you not rewarded for that in the way a survivor who runs straight up to a killer and throws every single pallet on the map down will be), getting totems, doing the gens, unhooking other survivors, playing THAT role perfectly, then you get the last gen as the last other remaining survivor gets downed.

    You go for an exit gate but the killer knows you are there despite remaining hidden, he knows you're NOT at the other exit, and now he's got eyes on that exit gate you're nearby and closes the hatch. What's your plan? There's literally nothing (short of getting or having a key for to reopen the hatch) you can do to escape even if the killer STILL never finds you one single time in the game, you're gonna die.


    Remember, this would solely be to counter a perk which most killers won't even be running, and I highly doubt many survivors would run it either - so what's the problem with taking 'no chance' and giving 'tiny chance' for situations like this?


    And yes, as far as calling Whispers the 'worst tracking perk' - you obviously speak of your own opinion, which is wrong btw :)

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    Horrordude, your mind is so open, Moses would've had nothing on you, clearly.

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    Yeah, and little arrows pointing them out on the screen, seems like you'd be all for that too.

  • RydogRydog Member Posts: 480

    Whispers forces the killer to hunt around and make correct guesses about player location. The counter is to move around and not try to "hide" behind a rock or whatever.

    Running any perk solely to counter one other specific perk is a dumb idea, regardless. "A perk to counter this perk" falls down in terms of logic, because you can't plan around it or know what the other side is bringing, so chances are you're just gimping yourself.

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    You think I'm saying this cos I just played a game where it came into it? Bless.


    I think beyond the end of the nose on my own face, unlike some apparently ;)

  • MisterTIBSMisterTIBS Member Posts: 64

    Anyway, I'm done, it's clear that there are far too many who play the game who think only of themselves and their own way of playing and have absolutely zero room for a mechanic being added which would SOLELY be to disrupt arguably the ONE perk in the game which (ultimately) is unable to be countered regardless of how well a survivor does in the game.


    Personally, even as killer, I don't think having the position of a survivor on the map should be a 100% given at any time, and certainly not once it gets down to 1v1. But maybe that's just cos I like to rely on a thing I call 'skill.'

  • RydogRydog Member Posts: 480

    I would embrace your poker analogy for what I am describing here, because the survivor and the killer are both trying to outplay each other when Whispers is in play.

    As a killer, I make mistakes a lot when using Whispers, because it's a really inexact tool. A lot of times, I find it more useful for knowing when NO survivor is in the area.

    You're right that it definitely does create some no-win scenarios for the last survivor standing.

  • Raven014Raven014 Member Posts: 675

    Whispers isn't great. It's too vague most of the time. Since it also counts survivors on the hook, you can't use it to great effect even in guarding hooks either. I see this as a non-issue.

  • FlipRickyDonksFlipRickyDonks Member Posts: 12

    The perk is already really niche and does not give much information. Definitely does not need a nerf.

  • Mak0Mak0 Member Posts: 22

    Whispers dosent need a counter perk like Adrenaline is Against NOED. Whispers dosent pinpoint the exact location of survivors it just gives you audio cues when your close. That's all no Auras trackers exposed effect etc. You have to make a prediction where a survivor is to work properly I don't think you should be too concerned about it especially when whispers can be throw off by a dying or hooked survivor

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