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What exactly is gen rush?

somewherenearsomewherenear Member Posts: 18
edited August 16 in General Discussions

4 survivors start the game and hop on 4 generators. The killer finds one and starts chasing that one. The other 3 do gens. Is this gen rushing? If so, why is it rushing? What should the other survivors be doing? Looking for chests? Sabotaging?

I am confused what Gen Rush means - what else should survivors do if not gens?

I'd like to hear from the perspective of killers - what do you expect other survivors to be doing? idling?

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  • CornpopersCornpopers Member Posts: 245

    It really has no meaning, at least to me. The only thing that actually comes close to a real "gen rush" is when survivors literally don't care about doing anything other then gens.

  • citroncitron Member Posts: 47
    edited August 16

    With a toolbox a single person can do a gen in 53sec-1:10 seconds.

    once you get up in rank where people don't run away like idiots when they hear the heartbeat 1-2 people on a gen and they can finish 1-2 before you can even loop the map.

    things change with Nurse/Billy/spirit where they have [BAD WORD] map pressure compared to other killers.

    With competent survivors gen rush is an issue, but it's the developers fault not the survivors, they are doing the objective.

    oh and it's technically possible to do a gen with 4 people in 10 seconds (1 gen)

    it's also technically possible to do a gen in ~16 seconds with 4 people (all gens)

  • ClogWenchClogWench Member Posts: 2,460

    It's a term killers use to pin the blame on survivors for getting gens done fast instead of blaming the devs for letting it become that much of q problem

  • TR_stonezTR_stonez Member Posts: 29

    Toxic gen rushers are people that bring things to speed up gens BNP, prove rhyself stuff like they i never considered it toxic because they are just doing their job and surviving

  • Steve0333Steve0333 Member Posts: 185

    "Genrushing" is usually the result of a killer tunneling one survivor which is the main reason why tunneling isn't a good strategy. You want to put pressure on all survivors, not just one. So if you are just following one survivor around the map you're going to have three survivors doing gens and getting them done fast.

    But this is also why m1 killers are terrible because not only are you easy to loop but it's hard to put pressure on all the survivors. You pretty much have to give up chases quickly or hope you can down survivors really fast in order to be effective. This is why some people say that only nurse and spirit are viable killers since they can end chases quickly and travel quickly around the map putting pressure on all the survivors.

  • wisdomwisdom Member Posts: 211

    Gen rush is when the killer fails to apply pressure.

  • xllxENIGMAxllxxllxENIGMAxllx Member Posts: 466

    Lol gen rush exist because weapply no pressure on gens in a sense sometime it's true but, for experimented players you know you're all wrong play clown against gen rusher. YOU.WILL.LOSE

    cutting a chase is also a lost because ok you will prevent the survivors to finish a gen but, the survivor you've stopped chasing we go on a generator. So it's like if you were on a solo game you were at the end then decide to restart the game again.

    On stupid survivors cutting chase can work but optimal-experimented survivors will simply smash you. Secondary objective is needed for sure for all killers except nurse because she's perfect and that's probably why her add-ons needs to be reworked for sure.

  • darkmarc0324darkmarc0324 Member Posts: 5

    What Gen Rush means to me, as a killer, is that I've already lost :(

  • yakul1nausicaayakul1nausicaa Member Posts: 18

    Also, like most other killers i don't get mad at survivors being efficient, it's just a consequence of game mechanics.

  • MrPeterPFLMrPeterPFL Member Posts: 28

    There's nothing wrong with "Gen Rushing" If a killer is chasing A, it's expected for B, C and D to do gens.

  • Warlock_2020Warlock_2020 Member Posts: 968

    Look, up until the yellow, purple and red ranks there really is no reason to complain about gen rush. Map pressure is easy at those ranks, just don't get too focused on one survivor.

    At those higher ranks is where it gets harder. Survivors loop better, they avoid better, and they focus on the gens more. This is why a cover all fix will not work. The majority of players are in the green ranks. Many are casual and nowhere near as skilled as higher rank players. Adding another objective to all ranks would make lower rank matches pure squash matches.

    The key is to add rank rewards and increase difficulty by rank.

  • switchswitch Member Posts: 345
    edited August 16

    Adding rank rewards is a good thing, dificully by rank ? [BAD WORD] NO

    I know personal individuals that would give up their entire progress in 2k hrs just to bully killer, when you have those kind of individuals in the game, do you think they're gonna rank up for what ? bloodpoints, or shards [BAD WORD] NO. they care to bully not to get rewards.

    The key is to implement another objective, good players will adapt, bad players will still do gens.

  • ThaznarThaznar Member Posts: 827

    Sadly I have to agree with this. Too bad devs fail to see the biggest flaw in their game - genrush meta. Most killers are useless and lack the tools to deal with this if survivors are focused only only gens. Whole community begs for additional objective for survivors even at a cost of reducing gen times slightly because holdin M1 for 80s is neither engaging nor fun.

  • White_OwlWhite_Owl Member Posts: 1,429
    edited August 16

    I think the real gen-rush is when survivors don't give a damn about anything beside gens: when you see all chests still closed, no totem cleansed and people don't heal you know you're facing real gen rushers. It's very rare to find teams playing this way though.

    In other cases it's just an excuse used when killers play bad, or a strategy used when they are playing dirty (hard camping or tunneling someone).

  • ThaznarThaznar Member Posts: 827

    It's not very rare. I am facing them all the time - my last match was as Myers and I had also to deal with 4 red insta heals. Trust me if survivors wish they can easily stomp most killers from the roster. Luckily some survivors play immersed and for points so killers can have fair matches that way which is beneficial for both sides. But there are people who just want to belittle the killer, do the gens asap and escape with 5-10k bps just to write EZ in the endgame chat. I wouldn't mind that to be honest if it wasn't for the fact that que times on killers are long. That is why secondary obligatory objective for survivors is needed.

  • MegsAreEvilMegsAreEvil Member Posts: 520

    Gen rushing doesnt exist. Its a killer legend to encourage themselfs, that theyre not just really bad at playing this game.

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