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Hatch change suggestions?

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  • CallMeRusty420CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Jack11803 said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    @CallMeRusty420

    Please come out an reveal you were baiting or joking... no seriously, what you said was completely messed up... like, a lot. And That’s coming from me of all people.

    I know but I just have to say what I experience from survs in this game. I only call the majority of survs scum because that's how they portrayed themselves. You're one of the few that aren't and that is golden.

    Thanks, i try to be. But anyway, what you said was definitely not a good thing. Just like you, gotta give the reality check that it was quite absurd, for your own good as well as others.

    Well I'm sorry that you feel that way, but with all the survs that proved what I said to be true, it's gonna take a lot to change my mind. It's nothing against you, it's just over 2k+ hours as killer showed me a lot of surv's are scum.

  • CallMeRusty420CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    I only care to the extent that it proves my point that when people are called out, they'll take the cheap shot over the direct hit. In other words, can't really say anything back and so only depend on the voting for their own satisfaction.

    Calling people scum just because they down voted you is taking a cheap shot mate.

    I never said survs are scum because of the downvoting, that's just my overall view of survs since they, themselves, proved that to me time and time and time again.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @CallMeRusty420

    A good metaphor for this would be you being a kite that was blown to high, and I’m trying to pull you back down, though you are right that some survivors had the strong to their kite released... and they’re gone forever... some killer mains too. But you seem like a good person that just made a heat in the moment comment.

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    I never said survs are scum because of the downvoting, that's just my overall view of survs since they, themselves, proved that to me time and time and time again.

    Quit your [BAD WORD] sir

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    And another reason why I say survs are scum is that a you scroll down this post, you see people that actually present logical and good ideas and actual points upon their posts and yet, they're downvoted by people like you just because they disagree and don't even provide why they downvoted. You survs are scum. Yall can downvote all you like, but people will still read and see what yall try so desperately to hide. Yall even downvoted Peanits who's a mod just because he stated that survs don't deserve a free win with the hatch. Yall are pathetic.

  • CallMeRusty420CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Jack11803 said:
    @CallMeRusty420

    A good metaphor for this would be you being a kite that was blown to high, and I’m trying to pull you back down, though you are right that some survivors had the strong to their kite released... and they’re gone forever... some killer mains too. But you seem like a good person that just made a heat in the moment comment.

    Alright I gotcha man. Just damn this game, as a killer, pushes you to your limits and I appreciate that you're understanding enough to know when someone is pushed over the edge. You're a good person too and that's cool of ya. Thanks man.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited June 2018

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    @Jack11803 said:
    @CallMeRusty420

    A good metaphor for this would be you being a kite that was blown to high, and I’m trying to pull you back down, though you are right that some survivors had the strong to their kite released... and they’re gone forever... some killer mains too. But you seem like a good person that just made a heat in the moment comment.

    Alright I gotcha man. Just damn this game, as a killer, pushes you to your limits and I appreciate that you're understanding enough to know when someone is pushed over the edge. You're a good person too and that's cool of ya. Thanks man.

    It’s cool dude, I main doctor... you can trust me... ;)

  • CallMeRusty420CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:

    I never said survs are scum because of the downvoting, that's just my overall view of survs since they, themselves, proved that to me time and time and time again.

    Quit your [BAD WORD] sir

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    And another reason why I say survs are scum is that a you scroll down this post, you see people that actually present logical and good ideas and actual points upon their posts and yet, they're downvoted by people like you just because they disagree and don't even provide why they downvoted. You survs are scum. Yall can downvote all you like, but people will still read and see what yall try so desperately to hide. Yall even downvoted Peanits who's a mod just because he stated that survs don't deserve a free win with the hatch. Yall are pathetic.

    As for you. Stfu and be more like @Jack11803

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294
    edited June 2018

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    As for you. Stfu and be more like @Jack11803

    No one can be like @Jack11803 .

    That boy is a gem.

  • mintchapstickmintchapstick Member Posts: 340

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    Alright I gotcha man. Just damn this game, as a killer, pushes you to your limits and I appreciate that you're understanding enough to know when someone is pushed over the edge. You're a good person too and that's cool of ya. Thanks man.

    Tbh, you just really have to keep that in mind. I'm not entirely innocent myself. Sometimes if I play too long, I also fall into the "them vs us" mindset trap & forums and stuff actually make it worse, because you see inflammatory posts from people who have the same issue, so it just compounds the problem for everyone involved.

    But no one involved on either side is scum. We might disagree on things. I hate the hatch, you like it, I think some killer perks are OP, you think some survivor perks are OP, and so on and so forth, but no one is scum. Not even those flashlight wielding P3 Claudettes. They're probably just 15 or something.

    & as a sidenote, when it comes to downvoting: it generally isn't because people don't have anything to say back. It's because people want to express an opinion, "I don't like your opinion/I disagree" but it isn't worth an argument, or they don't want to go around quoting every single person they disagree with. It's a fast way to go, 'well, I don't like that', and move on.

    I know I personally don't have the time to disagree with everyone that posts an opinion I disagree with. Like, I'm a web developer; I only have a few hours of free time a day, and I don't want to use all of them arguing with every opinion I don't agree with, but I will click 'downvote', and people are free to do the same on my posts if they disagree! It doesn't hurt anything.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    @Mc_Harty said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    As for you. Stfu and be more like @Jack11803

    No one can be like @Jack11803 .

    That boy is a gem.

    IF I remember, tomorrow I’ll draw ACE THICCSCONTI in the shittiest drawing style you will ever see! I’ll post in fan creations... just you wait! (I then proceed to completely forget)

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294

    @Jack11803 I will pay for the thickest Thiccsonti you can produce.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited June 2018

    @Mc_Harty said:
    @Jack11803 I will pay for the thickest Thiccsonti you can produce.

    Now im thinking on 2 things, 1) do it, or 2) totally bamboozle you and just draw a locker. Edit: AND I JUST SNEEZED ON MY PHONE. [BAD WORD]

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited June 2018

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Mc_Harty said:
    @Jack11803 I will pay for the thickest Thiccsonti you can produce.

    Now im thinking on 2 things, 1) do it, or 2) totally bamboozle you and just draw a locker. Edit: AND I JUST SNEEZED ON MY PHONE. [BAD WORD]

    Welp, gotta do ACE, soon as I thought about the locker karma sneezed on my phone

  • Mc_HartyMc_Harty Member Posts: 3,294
    Jack11803 said:

    Welp, gotta do ACE, soon as I thought about the locker karma sneezed on my phone

    I'm expecting the finest qualities of Jpeg


  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited June 2018

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Jack11803 said:

    Welp, gotta do ACE, soon as I thought about the locker karma sneezed on my phone

    I'm expecting the finest qualities of Jpeg

    I think I got an idea of what I’ll draw, it’ll be a close up, side profile, with his face and FINGERGUNS in view, including smoke coming from his fingers. It’ll be hand drawn as well, and I’m NOT an artist.... this can only go well :) The picture of it will just be a phone camera, so it’s JPEG enough

  • CallMeRusty420CallMeRusty420 Member Posts: 615

    @mintchapstick said:

    @CallMeRusty420 said:
    Alright I gotcha man. Just damn this game, as a killer, pushes you to your limits and I appreciate that you're understanding enough to know when someone is pushed over the edge. You're a good person too and that's cool of ya. Thanks man.

    Tbh, you just really have to keep that in mind. I'm not entirely innocent myself. Sometimes if I play too long, I also fall into the "them vs us" mindset trap & forums and stuff actually make it worse, because you see inflammatory posts from people who have the same issue, so it just compounds the problem for everyone involved.

    But no one involved on either side is scum. We might disagree on things. I hate the hatch, you like it, I think some killer perks are OP, you think some survivor perks are OP, and so on and so forth, but no one is scum. Not even those flashlight wielding P3 Claudettes. They're probably just 15 or something.

    & as a sidenote, when it comes to downvoting: it generally isn't because people don't have anything to say back. It's because people want to express an opinion, "I don't like your opinion/I disagree" but it isn't worth an argument, or they don't want to go around quoting every single person they disagree with. It's a fast way to go, 'well, I don't like that', and move on.

    I know I personally don't have the time to disagree with everyone that posts an opinion I disagree with. Like, I'm a web developer; I only have a few hours of free time a day, and I don't want to use all of them arguing with every opinion I don't agree with, but I will click 'downvote', and people are free to do the same on my posts if they disagree! It doesn't hurt anything.

    Yeah I getcha. And thanks for understanding it's jut damn I've fought with so many a$$holes it's just second nature to man the guns and fire.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930
    edited June 2018

    @Jack11803 said:

    @Mc_Harty said:
    Jack11803 said:

    Welp, gotta do ACE, soon as I thought about the locker karma sneezed on my phone

    I'm expecting the finest qualities of Jpeg

    I think I got an idea of what I’ll draw, it’ll be a close up, side profile, with his face and FINGERGUNS in view, including smoke coming from his fingers. It’ll be hand drawn as well, and I’m NOT an artist.... this can only go well :) The picture of it will just be a phone camera, so it’s JPEG enough

    Now that it’s posted... Is that JPEG enough!?

  • ZanferZanfer Member Posts: 643

    Since they just released the new hatch idea on the PTB, what do y'all think about the new idea. Just to keep discussion going.

  • Jack11803Jack11803 Member Posts: 3,930

    I think it’s a bit better, skips the whole waiting on the hatch; straight to the action.

  • GolgiNeaGolgiNea Member Posts: 157

    @Zanfer said:
    Since they just released the new hatch idea on the PTB, what do y'all think about the new idea. Just to keep discussion going.

    I think its a bit better, the killer can patroll both doors but the last survivor can keep getting little bits of progress on them repeatedly. It's an interesting idea, im excited to try it!

  • weirdkid5weirdkid5 Member Posts: 1,916

    I like the new changes lol bitter murmur NOED meta anyone?

  • ZanferZanfer Member Posts: 643

    @weirdkid5 said:
    I like the new changes lol bitter murmur NOED meta anyone?

    Oh yeah for sure :)

  • ZanferZanfer Member Posts: 643

    @GolgiNea said:

    @Zanfer said:
    Since they just released the new hatch idea on the PTB, what do y'all think about the new idea. Just to keep discussion going.

    I think its a bit better, the killer can patroll both doors but the last survivor can keep getting little bits of progress on them repeatedly. It's an interesting idea, im excited to try it!

    Always down to try new things with it. The more ideas people come up with the better it will get.

  • TheLegendDyl4n1TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @GolgiNea said:
    The killers ability to close the hatch is not ballanced at all. You're lucky to make it that far in a trial to begin with, let alone complete one more gen to re-open the hatch. It will be nearly impossible to get a hatch escape with the killer just patrolling the last remaining gens.

    Here are my suggestions on making it more ballanced:
    Remove killers ability to see gen auras when one survivor remains in the trial.
    Remove the ability for the killer to grab a survivor from the hatch if the survivor has found the hatch first or has re-opened the hatch.
    Give the survivor a significant speed buff to completing the gen they need to re-open the hatch.
    Hatch can only be closed by the killer once per trial.
    Alternative switch for the hatch to be re-opened that the survivor & killer have to find somewhere in the level.

    A combination of these suggestions could make the hatch change more ballanced and more fun for everyone. :)

    i agree on everything except the hatch can only be closed once per trial and the speed buff (no speed buff cause they have a perk in the game for that if your the last survivor for each generator needed to be completed you gain a 25% boost for each one) maybe have it to where killer cant see the auras of the gens, remove the ability to grab a survivor when they jump in the hatch and have the hatch re spawn around the map in different alternate spots. i am a P3 lvl 50 survivor main with almost every perk in the game and only play killer for the forced killer rituals and find this would be a great addition although i wish i didn't happen at all since i love bullying the killer by finishing the remaining gens when they face camp the hatch and seeing them freak out when gens start popping is funny. sometimes they dont care and just wont let me get the hatch but instead only through the doors which then i just wait for them to either hit me so i can jump through the hatch if i haven't maxed out on gen repair by then or them dc'ing so i dont get the hatch. either choice i am fine with due to not caring how long the game lasts i have all day.

  • TheLegendDyl4n1TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @GolgiNea said:
    The killers ability to close the hatch is not ballanced at all. You're lucky to make it that far in a trial to begin with, let alone complete one more gen to re-open the hatch. It will be nearly impossible to get a hatch escape with the killer just patrolling the last remaining gens.

    Here are my suggestions on making it more ballanced:
    Remove killers ability to see gen auras when one survivor remains in the trial.
    Remove the ability for the killer to grab a survivor from the hatch if the survivor has found the hatch first or has re-opened the hatch.
    Give the survivor a significant speed buff to completing the gen they need to re-open the hatch.
    Hatch can only be closed by the killer once per trial.
    Alternative switch for the hatch to be re-opened that the survivor & killer have to find somewhere in the level.

    A combination of these suggestions could make the hatch change more ballanced and more fun for everyone. :)

    i agree on everything except the hatch can only be closed once per trial and the speed buff (no speed buff cause they have a perk in the game for that if your the last survivor for each generator needed to be completed you gain a 25% boost for each one) maybe have it to where killer cant see the auras of the gens, remove the ability to grab a survivor when they jump in the hatch and have the hatch re spawn around the map in different alternate spots. i am a P3 lvl 50 survivor main with almost every perk in the game and only play killer for the forced killer rituals and find this would be a great addition although i wish i didn't happen at all since i love bullying the killer by finishing the remaining gens when they face camp the hatch and seeing them freak out when gens start popping is funny. sometimes they dont care and just wont let me get the hatch but instead only through the doors which then i just wait for them to either hit me so i can jump through the hatch if i haven't maxed out on gen repair by then or them dc'ing so i dont get the hatch. either choice i am fine with due to not caring how long the game lasts i have all day.

    another thing i forgot is the idea of the exit gates being powered when the killer closes the hatch is fine to but they would have to substitute for the lack of lightbringer badge as well as if this was a thing the killer might just camp the hatch until he sees you so that he can just chase you after he closes the hatch this is why i suggest the survivor not being aloud to be grabbed out of the hatch so the killer doesnt just camp the hatch because i sometimes run urban evasion and can just sneak up on the killer and jump in the hatch. this would cause the killer to want to close the hatch so they have a better chance of finding the survivor.

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