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The demogorgon's now break pallet by default but Legion can't??

MissGamer456MissGamer456 Member Posts: 154
edited September 2019 in General Discussions

Quote from patch notes "The Demogorgon's Shred special ability now breaks pallets by default. Because of this change, we have re-worked the Red Moss add-on."

I find this very upsetting not because of this change, but because Legion has the same ultra rare add-on that let's them break pallets except they're vaulting. Legion should also be able to break pallets by default with his special ability (Frenzy) giving their current state. It just seems unfair they didn't make this change for Legion as well and they totally should. Majority of Legions add-ons needs a rework period.

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  • justarandyjustarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Real life "sense" should never be the guide to balance a game. Legions iri addon doesn't make him bold out of the sudden so it's a bad explanation anyway.

  • TheRoyalOwlTheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 716

    Anyway, it doesn't matter. The developers focus on one thing at a time, and right now its on the Stranger Things Chapter, whatever they do with Legion is probably still being debated.

  • HatCreatureHatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    Seeing Nurse can't even comprehend what a pallet is, I can get behind this 😂


    Look I LOVE Legion, they got nerfed into the ground because of pressure from the community and the Devs went too far with it. They did say they are going to change Legion's add-ons but that won't fix them, it will not. Saying that, I don't think making that add-on base is the right thing to do. It is their most powerful add-on and gets rid of that awful stupid speed change to vaulting them but it doesn't look right.

    Legion needs help but this is not it, also if they did make it base then what could they possibly get to replace that add-on? Breaking the pallet is unique and therefore Ultra worthy but what could possibly replace that?

  • MarcusMarcus Member Posts: 2,014

    If we are using logic, what people are running at full speed while they puking ? What people can be hit with a hatchet in their head or chainsawed and not die instantly ? What people can lose so many blood and still survive ?

  • FancyMrBFancyMrB Member Posts: 305

    Lol imagine scrawny Legion going all hulk on a pallet XD He/she would just hurt themselves... they would go to injure state!

    Too funny!

  • MissGamer456MissGamer456 Member Posts: 154

    It's funny how people are talking and laughing about it's not being logical to a fiction game. It's all about balance for the killer. 🙄

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 10,196
    edited September 2019

    Okay, but why?

    You say for balance, but that's too broad.

    Why would this balance it out?

  • MissGamer456MissGamer456 Member Posts: 154
    edited September 2019

    Think about maps that have lots of pallets, that too large, or have tons of safe loops. Legion is very easy to loop and if you are a decent to good survivor you can literally loop them the entire game on one safe pallet if they don't break the pallet {trust me I've done it} and even if they do break the pallet the survivor will just run to other safe pallet loop. Having the ability to break the pallet by default with Frenzy can end endless looping and chases quicker.

  • BossBoss Member, Trusted Posts: 10,196

    And this is a thing a lot of Legion players agree with?

  • SasukeKunSasukeKun Member Posts: 663

    I agree, Legion needs more added to their power other than a special cat and mouse chase,

  • MemberBerryMemberBerry Member Posts: 394

    Demogorgon is a MF-ing 3 meter tall monster from another dimension, weighting god knows how much, presenting pretty much a perfect hunting organism. Him breaking pallets with brute force and lunging as far as he does over windows make sense. Legion members couldn't even solo the Clown, let alone break pallets when climbing over them.


    On a serious note, devs are most likely planning to rework them, their current state is a temporary plasterfix.

  • Predator3174PLPredator3174PL Member Posts: 263

    Demogorgon is crushing into pallet with force of an big animal.

    Legion just vault over it so it would not make sense for them to destroy pallet by vaulting without addon

  • joker7997joker7997 Member Posts: 899

    Yeah and the doctors shock should shatter a pallet, if the trapper places a trap next to a pallet it should break (just because), wraith should ghost through pallets and boom they break all by themselves, clowns tonic is the ultimate pallet destroyer, Freddy snares too, and don't forgot the bag if she places a trap under a pallet and it goes off that pallets totally dead.

  • GalklifeGalklife Member Posts: 628

    well if i remember correctly Demo cant curve his power around loops so he cant curve it as effectively as billy + he is taking more fatigue time xd so thats not a problem

    but imagine legion on 1 power destroying 5 pallets xd and demo has cd after that legions add on makes him dash and he can stab you (ofc this stab isnt lethal) but why would you activate your power as legion to only break pallet and get stunned (im not talking about taking full add on power, but changing it as demo is now) isnt it better do kick pallet and use power to keep up with surv? (for legion ofc) and if you want to tell but if someone can have red add on base kit we want too (well lets make 1st myers T3 perma :) oh wait its plague when noone is cleansing xD )

  • TWiXTTWiXT Member Posts: 1,031

    The big thing that you have to consider as to why Legion needs an ultra rare add-on to break pallets, vs demogorgon is simple: Unlike Demogorgon, who experiences a 2.25 second cooldown after he breaks the pallet, Legion keeps running without any cooldown. That actually makes the automatic pallet breaks worthy of an ultra rare. Can you imagine if, with an ultra rare add-on, if Billy could keep his chainsaw sprint going and just charge through the pallets without stopping? Demogorgon on the other hand has a cooldown from breaking them and doesn't even 1 shot survivors with his Shred attack. This made the Ultra Rare add-on laughably undeserving of its cost, when the ability should always have been base kit. For Legion on the other hand, given that they don't get a cooldown and can keep chasing after vault-breaking the pallet, their add-on's Ultra Rare status makes sense. If it were incorporated as part of their base kit, we'd get nothing but cries for nerfing them... AGAIN... clogging up these forums.

  • Ark_the_BonsaiArk_the_Bonsai Member Posts: 862

    I agree, if only because I like the idea of free points any time I blink through a pallet

  • KabuKabu Member Posts: 921

    Thank you for those numbers! I've seen the stats for the base shred but not how add ons interacted with it. Much appreciated.

  • Raven014Raven014 Member Posts: 3,661

    I agree Legion needs buffs, but this doesn't make sense at all. : P

    Sure, it would make chases end sooner, but if you're being looped in Frenzy, you're not doing it right.

  • HorusHorus Member Posts: 850

    Legion requires a full rework

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