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The First Generation: The Origins of the Lost Tapes and Neutral Perks

HailohHailoh Member Posts: 78
edited October 2019 in Lore

Quick note. Everything I'm about to say is pretty loose theory. There's no hard evidence nor confirmation to confirm this, but I still think it's an interesting idea regardless.


As of right now, there are eight survivor perks known as the "Lost Tapes" perks. Each of these perks includes a quote from an unknown voice, presumably a survivor. The eight perks include:

  • Dark Sense ("Take it from an old-timer: Slow down, don't rush and try not to worry so much! The best way to beat him is to know how he thinks." — Murf, The Lost Tapes)
  • Hope ("Buckle up, fuckos! Let's roll." — Nikki, The Lost Tapes)
  • Kindred ("Be kind to one another. We're all in this together." — Sujan, The Lost Tapes)
  • Lightweight ("Take it slow, he knows where you've been... just like I've always said: 'live slow and die old'" — Dylan, The Lost Tapes)
  • No One Left Behind ("... yeah, no [BAD WORD]. But I believe we can outsmart and overthrow him if we work together. Don't be predictable and selfish!" — Clyde, The Lost Tapes)
  • Plunderer's Instinct ("The pioneers used to loot these babies for hours." — Aizeyu, The Lost Tapes)
  • Small Game ("Nope." — Andy, The Lost Tapes)
  • Spine Chill ("There is a voice that doesn't use words. Listen.." — Sassy, The Lost Tapes)

Overall, there are 14 neutral survivor perks. Outside of the eight already mentioned, the six other perks are:

  • Déjà vu
  • Premonition
  • Resilience
  • Slippery Meat
  • This Is Not Happening
  • We'll Make It

So, overall, we have fourteen perks of unknown origin, and eight unknown characters that are all related in some way. That's everything we know for sure. Everything else is theory.


As of right now, there is only one way to get perks into the bloodweb outside of the neutral perks. They need to be obtained from leveling up survivors and buying their teachables. So where did the neutral perks come from then? The ones you can get from the start of the game, there's no real explanation for why they're there. It could just be passed off as gameplay reasons, but there's something else important to note. Quotes from these characters are in the descriptions of these perks, right? That's not unusual, because we've seen it before. For example, let's use We're Gonna Live Forever from David King. It's description reads:

  • "Come on then, let's 'ave it! I don't give a [BAD WORD] pal." — David King

It all makes sense. David's quote belongs on David's perk. As in, the owner of the perk would be the one to have a quote put into its description. Do you see my point?

These neutral perks BELONG to the Lost Survivors. In theory, if they were in the game, you could buy Dark Sense off of Murf, Hope off of Nikki, etc..

In one way or another, these survivors got their perks into the global bloodweb. They probably would have had to do this by going through their own bloodwebs up until level 30, 35, and/or 40. These were veteran survivors, at least from a canonical perspective. They were around long before our current crew of nineteen. These survivors were the first generation. We simply play a later one.

This raises a couple more questions.

  1. What about the other six perks? Who do they belong to?
  2. Where is the first generation now?

We can answer the first one pretty reliably, but the second one leads to a few options. Let's lead with the first question, who do the six other neutral perks belong to?

This is pretty easy, because we get some good insight on the owners of the perks given the quotes and utility of their perks. I've made a quick description of each Lost Survivor as far as I can tell.

  • Murf: Owner of Dark Sense. Old, relaxed, and likes to be ten steps ahead of his opponent. His idea of good strategy is to get in the enemy's head. He does this by paying close attention to the killer, studying them, and acting from there.
  • Nikki: Owner of Hope. Bold, cocky, and headstrong. She bases herself off of confidence and willpower, and probably isn't afraid to put herself in a dangerous position. All she needs to do is give herself a little pick-me-up in said dangerous positions.
  • Sujan: Owner of Kindred. Empathetic, caring, and a team player. They depend on their team, but also wants to give them that extra push in the right direction to get the job done.
  • Dylan: Owner of Lightweight. Blunt, experienced, and vague. Dylan isn't afraid to slip into the shadows at a moment's notice, and is probably more interested in his own survival than that of his comrades.
  • Clyde: Owner of No One Left Behind. Heroic with a strong moral code, willing to sacrifice himself for his team, and probably the most naive of the group. Clyde is someone who values his team over himself, and makes sure that they make it out in one piece, no matter the cost.
  • Aizeyu: Owner of Plunderer's Instinct. Resourceful, knowledgeable, and a great scavenger. They use whatever is around them to get the job done, even if someone with an unskilled eye might look over it.
  • Andy: Owner of Small Game. Whether he's funny or anxious, Andy is most interested in denying the killer of their advantages.
  • Sassy: Owner of Spine Chill. Aware of her surroundings, resilient, and very accustomed to her new realm. Sassy uses her surroundings to gain information on the killer, and edges herself to push a bit harder in moments of stress.

So, given these characters' personalities, let's start pinning some perks to them.

  • Déjà vu - (Aizeyu, Andy, or Sassy.)
  • Premonition - (Murf, Dylan, Aizeyu, or Sassy.)
  • Resilience - (Nikki or Sassy.)
  • Slippery Meat - (Dylan or Andy.)
  • This is Not Happening - (Nikki or Sassy.)
  • We'll Make It - (Sujan or Clyde)

That still leaves us with one question, though. Where are they now? There are a few options. They could all have been wiped out in one way or another, they could still be in the entity's realm separate from the current 19, etc.. But there's one idea that I find most interesting.

They escaped.


  • NyeloNyelo Member Posts: 9
    edited October 2019

    Great idea, I hadn't thought about it.

  • NyeloNyelo Member Posts: 9

    Really interesting theory. But what about these "Lost tapes"?

    Are there any hidden tapes around the maps? Maybe are they related to the golden toolboxes maybe?

    Maybe those golden toolboxes belonged to them and they hid some tapes in there.

  • AwakeyAwakey Member Posts: 2,849

    They could also be in the void.

  • Gato_LocoGato_Loco Member Posts: 36

    They could be still in the entity realm playing the trials, or they could be in the void after died many times

  • HailohHailoh Member Posts: 78

    Another idea I hadn't really considered before. A lot of people have pointed this out to me on Reddit, actually. And yes, unfortunately, I agree with them. As much as I want the First Generation to have found the way out, it's not realistic.

    With that being said... We can give them a little bit of hope, can't we? Only thing to do is wait and see.

  • SpringeySpringey Member Posts: 200
    edited October 2019

    My own thought is that survivors share and talk about their 'abilities', like for example Claudette could tell the others how to heal themselves or what they can use to speed up the heal process.

    I always assumed that the lost tapes got recorded by past survivors (or by survivors who still are in the realm but not playable) to pass on useful tips ('abilities').

  • HailohHailoh Member Posts: 78

    Actually, given that Baker mentions the bloodweb itself in his journals, I think that it's a canonical thing, as in something the survivors interact with in the same way that we do. How perks fit into it, I'm not sure. But in one way or another, survivors can put their abilities onto the bloodweb. Obtaining them is the only part we understand.

  • SpringeySpringey Member Posts: 200

    I hope we will get to know about that more in the archives.

  • HailohHailoh Member Posts: 78

    I second this. Super, SUPER excited for those to come out.

  • TohmoTohmo Member Posts: 242

    As of right now I don't believe there's a way they could have escaped, until the lore is expanded upon with the upcoming updates.

    To me, a far worse fate probably came upon them. There's a sub-realm in the Entity's realm known as the "Void", where the souls of survivors who have lost all their hope are stored, now being useless to the Entity. This is a far more realistic ending to them, unfortunately.

    However! There's also the chance they're still alive and kicking, still facing off against the Entity's killers. It's confirmed Vigo is still alive (I think it was him at least?) in the Hallowed Blight event's cut-scenes, so its not too far off.

    The lore will be heavily expanded upon in the Archives though, so things will get a hella lot more interesting soon...

  • ShenaniganShenanigan Member Posts: 25

    Even though you wrote this theory a year ago I wanted to add a little bonus mini theory:

    Maybe the first generation of survivors (or at least this group) was possibly these survivors from the launch trailer:

    Even though it's not the same amount of survivors as there are the perks you've listed it's been said by the devs that the nurse has been in the Entity realm the longest out of all killers, maybe the trapper was here when this group of survivors came along or at least he's encountering them again. In this time.

  • SpookyStabbySpookyStabby Member Posts: 621

    I also wonder... Maybe a perk loses its quote(or echos of that person to be dramatic) once they go hollow and get sent to The Void. Maybe the fact each of those characters still has a single quote attached to perks means they're out there, deeper in the realm, and on the edge of losing all hope and perhaps they can still be saved? I wonder if Baker or Vigo knows them?

  • Player35Player35 Member Posts: 105

    I read somewhere that originally Claudette was white and Meg black. Could be that the launch trailer was made when that was still the case but I like your theory better

  • SpookyStabbySpookyStabby Member Posts: 621

    Bump for more theories. [BAD WORD]'s getting good.

  • Fran1994Fran1994 Member Posts: 64

    A really solid theory, and i hope the devs are going to let us dig deeper in the role

  • InkedRaiderInkedRaider Member Posts: 18

    That first survivor pictured is one of my favorite character models and I really REALLY wish she was an ingame survivor. I wonder who she is..

  • BubbaMain64BubbaMain64 Member Posts: 387

    What if the reference to "the pioneers" in plunderers implies there were even more survivors before our cast? There could be a whole civilization somewhere inside the entities realm for all we know.

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