Because you're limiting the amount of limited usefulness it already has... and building a straw man argument by exaggerating everyone's reaction is not going to help your case.
BBQ's main point is to get people away from the hook so they don't camp. That's it. It gives more BPs the more people you hook, and it shows you where they are now... not where they will be when you get there.
I still believe Distortion needs unlimited tokens, it's the only way to break the bbq/nurses calling meta for immersed players.
Like no? Everyone would just change to another long range information perk like "Surveillance". No need to make good perks useless.
When I run a farming build as killer (which, right now, is 100% of the time), I get to have two perks that are actually useful gameplay-wise. I hate that lately I keep seeing people who want that to be taken down to one useful perk. -_-
LIke that is any difference than survivors that whine that a killer is kill-rushing. Oh, I'm sorry, I think the politically correct term survivors mains want us to use is "Tunneling".
But that has nothing to do with the fact that BBQ is a fair and balanced perk.
It already has like 7 counters, this would just make it worse and everyone already only runs it for the bloodpoints
I'm surprised so many people validated that with a reply.
BBQ & Chili has counters. It's in no way OP. Just play around the assumption that everyone runs it and make preparations around that.
I'm just feeling particularly feisty and snarky today. Don't mind me.
It's not strawman.
I got in trouble with the mods for pointing out someone's hypocritical posts so now I'm refraining from quoting a problematic user with a Killer role bias.
And limiting the Aura views isn't limiting BBQs usefulness. Most players use it for the stacks. If you are 8 hooks deep and have no idea where the Survivors could be...
A.) you are doing really good wrecking the Survivors as all 7 gens are still up.
B.) go to any of the remaining gens
Just because something isn't glaringly obvious as being overpowered, doesn't mean it's not overpowered.🥴🥴🥴
Just use lockers
But there are times - for instance, the end of the trial when all gens are powered, that you can't slide in a locker.
Right now, it's completely imbalanced with the Billy, Spirit & Nurse. They are all over the place in 6-8 seconds. And it's like 3-4 second animation getting a locker.
Just walk in the opposite direction and hide then, works for me even against them.
Very interesting that you completely overlook the fact the seconds you have to even get to said locker or be ready for the incoming rush.
What, do you not hear your teammate getting downed? Are you deaf? Do you not see the icon when they are downed? Then of course there's the time from that point to getting to the hook. Then the aura itself is only 4 seconds long which doesn't take into account wind up time of said power.
It's like you want to take these few edge cases and beat them into the ground because you just don't like the power.
40 meter blind spot
Locker block it
Gen auras block it
Distortion blocks it
idk about unlimited. But it needs to have at least 5 or a way to get more tokens as you play (cleansing totems maybe?)
On the highest levels survivors will counter bbq 7/10 times. The 3 times they simply don't care or actually want that you chase them. Bbq not op. Without the double bp I wouldn't use it anymore, wasted perkslot cuz it's get countered very good and outclassed by better perks.
You claim that everyone is shouting at you! How is that not?! XD
There are times when people wouldn't've gotten kills without the aura reading to nudge them in the right direction. Myself included.
It's designed to make survivors more aware of the risks of watching someone get hooked from a distance.
I have a question, would you want DS or BT nerfed? Your logic at the end should apply to them, because inherently with bad survivors those perks are near useless, but good survivors can make them OP. Will you follow your logic or will you show anti-killer bias?
Killers still camp with bbq, cause all you have to do is counter then there like well noone is farther then 40m must here to unhook. I dont bbq to be nerfed I just wish survivors had a good BP perk too. WGTLF is not a good perk....
If they changed that to unlimited it might actually almost worth running.
Thank you for being a light of common sense and logic. I swear, sometimes I don't know what people are thinking.
Ikr? Why did BBQ even get brought up as OP?
7 gens up? Do you play the game? Every time I see you, you are making fun of Killers and telling people that they are biased against Survivors or just generally being rude to everyone. Then even when you arn't mean, you don't make sense. I'm honestly suprised anyone listens to you at this point.
I’ll say it, buff DISTORTION more tokens please :) BBQ IS FINE.
BBQ has so many counters that you cant call it OP...
If BP Is null for balance then let's remove the BP from BBQ. Shouldn't be a problem for you, right?
Nope, its fine.
DS has already been nerfed. But hey that's how it is with some of you people, you just want everything.
I don't mind nerfing DS further. But if you think that is needed surely you can also acknowledge BBQ also needs an adjustment. BBQ does far, far more for the killer than DS does for the Survivor.
It bugs me that people claim that tehy don't even realize BBQ has an aura reading counter sometimes, then fight so hard to resist any nerfs to the aura reading.
If you really think the Aura Reading component of BBQ isn't important, then surely you should be okay with nerfing it.
Personally I would like nothing more, but that might be too powerful and some killers would probably complain about it.
But if it ever happened Distortion would never leave my build and I would stop complaining about BBQ.
When I think about it probably isn't that OP, since most are fine without the BBQ aura reading anyway, and there are already a lot of killer detection perks don't use auras like Discordance, Whispers, Infectious, Surveillance, even Iron Maiden.