I’m not a killer or survivor main, I enjoy playing both and play both pretty equally on PS4. That being said I’m actually less likely to play survivor now because I expect the que times to get really bad. The fact of the matter is 80% of killers used ruin at red ranks including me. That means only 20 percent of red rank players are good enough to get there without it. That is a pretty large amount of killers using it, so I expect there’s going to be a lot more tunneling, camping, moris, and NOED. I honestly don’t even mind the change because I agree with the notion that now they can balance everything else
I don't really wish them to fail on that level, I really think they need some kind of huge hit to their ego so they will realize they need to get their head in the game for once.
I'm gonna have to disagree... slightly. I mean, yes it was big, but Ruin is a major blow to killers who can't dish out map pressure enough to get around that obstacle. Survivors could at least use a medkit to get around the self care nerf. But, it still does the same thing, you still heal yourself. Ruin used to slow down the game, now it just regresses gens while preventing you from using arguably better perks. Like pop goes the weasel.
You might be right, although there are decent alternatives to ruin even now which a lot of people use, because they don't want to rely on RNG totem spawns and so on. That's besides the point though.
The point I was trying to make is that the change back then was big enough to upset many survivors and people made a fuss, just like they're doing now. If you believe that the game should die now because of this, then it should have died back then as well and it didn't..
You do raise a good point as well, but I'd also like to mention that Ruin did help at least crush some of the more obnoxious ways of doing gens, like all purple toolbox swf combos. This helped a killer like Piggy get some breathing room for her to get her traps on the survivor's heads. I do wish more killers and killer mains, including me, were more able to easily dodge the no ruin situation so well like Otz.
I agree regarding toolboxes. I hope they're the next thing that gets reworked.. Even with Franklin's you'll struggle against 4 engineer/commodious toolboxes
Sure, BHVR won't collapse and this game probably won't die off just yet.. But the fact of the matter is that people are quitting and have been quitting due to these and similar changes. Yeah, some will come back, but many also won't.
It's not a matter of the skill of the killer or whatever, it doesn't matter if anyone can 4k without Ruin or not.. People quit because the fun is being sucked out of playing killer and it's becoming more of a gruelling task than a fun game. People are quitting because, even if the nerf ends up being good, BHVR isn't looking into the core reasons people run it, they're not addressing the underlying issues.. just looking at statistics and deciding that too many people use it.
I go in as huntress with no perks and add-ons once and awhile to test my mettle, and I suck as huntress but it is such a sweet victory. Be bold people.
In July 2019, BHVR accepted ~$20M from a Chinese investor for a non-controlling stake in BHVR and a member on the board. It would appear the answer is yes. TBH, I couldn’t care less if BHVR goes under. They haven’t done anything to make the gaming experience better.
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I’m not a killer or survivor main, I enjoy playing both and play both pretty equally on PS4. That being said I’m actually less likely to play survivor now because I expect the que times to get really bad. The fact of the matter is 80% of killers used ruin at red ranks including me. That means only 20 percent of red rank players are good enough to get there without it. That is a pretty large amount of killers using it, so I expect there’s going to be a lot more tunneling, camping, moris, and NOED. I honestly don’t even mind the change because I agree with the notion that now they can balance everything else
Bhvr removes SKILL checks from ruin because survivors CAN'T hit SKILL checks
Survivors proceed to tell killers they need better SKILL
"SKILL"...
Removes "SKILL" checks from ruin....
K.
Learn to play without ruin
And who will all these new players, play with? Red Rank Survivor mains who will rofl stomp them, and crush the will to play out of new killers?
I don't really wish them to fail on that level, I really think they need some kind of huge hit to their ego so they will realize they need to get their head in the game for once.
I'm gonna have to disagree... slightly. I mean, yes it was big, but Ruin is a major blow to killers who can't dish out map pressure enough to get around that obstacle. Survivors could at least use a medkit to get around the self care nerf. But, it still does the same thing, you still heal yourself. Ruin used to slow down the game, now it just regresses gens while preventing you from using arguably better perks. Like pop goes the weasel.
Is DBD dying yet again?
First time was 2016, amiright?
You might be right, although there are decent alternatives to ruin even now which a lot of people use, because they don't want to rely on RNG totem spawns and so on. That's besides the point though.
The point I was trying to make is that the change back then was big enough to upset many survivors and people made a fuss, just like they're doing now. If you believe that the game should die now because of this, then it should have died back then as well and it didn't..
You do raise a good point as well, but I'd also like to mention that Ruin did help at least crush some of the more obnoxious ways of doing gens, like all purple toolbox swf combos. This helped a killer like Piggy get some breathing room for her to get her traps on the survivor's heads. I do wish more killers and killer mains, including me, were more able to easily dodge the no ruin situation so well like Otz.
I agree regarding toolboxes. I hope they're the next thing that gets reworked.. Even with Franklin's you'll struggle against 4 engineer/commodious toolboxes
Friday the 13th is going to kill this game!
Last Year is going to kill this game!
Self-Care nerf is going to kill this game!
Balanced Landing nerf is going to kill this game!
Save our Souls is going to kill this game!
Identity V is going to kill this game!
Civilization is going to kill this game!
Ruin nerf is going to kill this game!
Patterns within patterns within patterns. sigh
Oh without a doubt, that's why we were all upset with change that didn't even really help that much..
Sure, BHVR won't collapse and this game probably won't die off just yet.. But the fact of the matter is that people are quitting and have been quitting due to these and similar changes. Yeah, some will come back, but many also won't.
It's not a matter of the skill of the killer or whatever, it doesn't matter if anyone can 4k without Ruin or not.. People quit because the fun is being sucked out of playing killer and it's becoming more of a gruelling task than a fun game. People are quitting because, even if the nerf ends up being good, BHVR isn't looking into the core reasons people run it, they're not addressing the underlying issues.. just looking at statistics and deciding that too many people use it.
ruin is a crutch perk, learn to play the game not the perks ;)
This.
I go in as huntress with no perks and add-ons once and awhile to test my mettle, and I suck as huntress but it is such a sweet victory. Be bold people.
Yes it is the same u whine about it and threatened to leave bye then!
In July 2019, BHVR accepted ~$20M from a Chinese investor for a non-controlling stake in BHVR and a member on the board. It would appear the answer is yes. TBH, I couldn’t care less if BHVR goes under. They haven’t done anything to make the gaming experience better.
If DBD were to go away they would be hurting. Maybe not enough to close the company but it wouldn't be business as usual.
They're working on star...whatever. The expensive game that raised all that money. They have that contract for the foreseeable future.
They've also been around since the GB era, just under a different name,and last I saw expressed interest in a Wet2.
That lawsuit is still on going
Decisive Strike is the most utterly broken crutch perk in the game by far but I bet you love that