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Billy is not balanced. Please change my mind.

He is the only instadown killer that doesnt have a slower movement speed , plus with the way exit gates spawn i feel like he is almost unbeatable(like I said this is how I feel , I am more than willing to have my mind changed). I really want someone to change my mind.



  • newavitarnewavitar Member Posts: 395

    Myers doesn't have a slowed movement speed when he instant downs. He is not unbeatable since he is extremely weak to looping, especially on maps like The Game and Hawkins. What rank are you?

  • Colton147Colton147 Member Posts: 525

    Gotta go fast.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 920

    I'm a rank 3 , hes the only killer I really cant beat. I'm fine going against spirit and freddy (and nurse but that's super easy now) a lot of people are saying loop him but you cant loop a killer forever especially with how fast he breaks pallets.

    also with myers he doesnt have a instadown right away, he has to work up to it .

  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 4,731
  • SunderMunSunderMun Member Posts: 1,078

    Base billy needs no nerf; instasaw is the only thing that needs nerfing.

  • Warcrafter4Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 238
    edited January 19

    Billy's instant down chainsaw dash is mostly in a straight line and even looping him against something like a small rock let alone a window its possible to keep him from getting it off simply due to the restrictive nature of his chainsaw dash.

    I am not even very good with survivor and its rather easy to do which is why he is considered balanced as he has counter play to even his strongest ability.

    Edit: sorry about the bad quote I misread what you meant.

  • ReallyBigShoeReallyBigShoe Member Posts: 764

    Instasaw hasn't been a real thing since Tinkerer was changed. He can have a faster saw, but it's nowhere near insta anymore. It's nothing that can't be dodged or juked.

    Stop nerfing things because survivors refuse to learn how to play.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,454

    So why is Billy the only killer that can cross the map and then back again with no cooldown?

    In addition he’s the only killer with that kind of movement that has instadowns on top. An unlimted number of instadowns he can swing, swing, swing all game with little punishment if he misses.

    tHe mOsT bAlAnCeD kIlLeR

    If he’s the most balanced then all other killers need buffs.

  • AneurysmAneurysm Member Posts: 300

    Billy only has a consistent instadown against lower rank survivors, and the chainsaw does little to help him in loops. 110 movement speed would kill him, he would be as easy to run around as a hag without traps or huntress without hatchets.

    This comes from playing against him btw, I only play him for dailies. I'd miss going against him if he was nerfed though, I'd rather they just forced exit gates to spawn further apart regarding the problem you mentioned. Also instasaw is stupid but they're obviously going to nerf that anyway.

  • ReallyBigShoeReallyBigShoe Member Posts: 764
    edited January 19

    Because it has a huge downside of having to rev up the chainsaw, have little control during movement (meaning survivors need to run into him or stand still to be hit), get there, go through the stop animation, find someone, rev up again, hope they aren't running around something forcing you to M1, hit them, have a cooldown before he can pick anyone up (there is a cooldown), and that's if he hits the person and not a tree with a hitbox the size of a cadillac, then he has a huge penalty. He has all the downsides in proportion to his power.

    If you think Billy is even remotely OP, it's just you that needs to get some practice in. Not Billy that needs nerfing.

    You're right about one thing. Most killers do need buffs.

  • GroxiverdeGroxiverde Member Posts: 664
    edited January 19

    You are right, all killers but spirit, nurse and huntress need buffs to be at hillbilly's level.

    But not straight up buffing them, they just need their skill cap increased.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,454
    edited January 19

    You act like revving up the chainsaw is a huge downside then say it’s me that needs to get practise in....the irony.

    It takes about 2.5 seconds to charge that chainsaw base, but everyone runs add ons to decrease this. He then moves at 230% speed across the entire map, and then again his cooldown is just a few more seconds.

    So about 2 seconds of charging, 230% speed travel with unlimited range and then a few seconds cooldown. You’re seriously going to act like this isn’t that good?

    Compare that to Freddy who has to wait 45 seconds before he can use his teleport again and it takes about 8-10 seconds to even complete a teleport.

    Or Spirit who moves at 176% speed but her power only lasts long enough to make it a short way across the map then she has a 15 second recharge period.

    Closest is Demogorgan with the portals but even those have a 14 second cooldown unlike Hillbilly and they can be destroyed meaning he can’t travel at all.

    Also none of the above killers have instadowns let alone an unlimited number of them.

    You’re being very defensive in your forum posts recently I’ve noticed. Not going to lie it smells of bias. I can’t believe you’re going to sit here and tell me Hillbillys power isn’t that good and then act like everyone else needs to improve.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,454

    Yes all killers need to have an instadown as their primary attack and be able to cross the map in seconds and back again.

    Balanced for a 4k.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 920

    lol I'm not a survivor main. look back at my previous post.

  • NMCKENMCKE Member, Trusted Posts: 6,812

    I'm simply telling OP that Billy is fine and has counterplay.

    Your opinion of Billy being an M2 killer doesn't change my opinion of him being a balanced killer.

    If you want to change my mind and discuss this topic with me, you have to give me more reasoning than that. :P

    Where's your counter points? Any facts to backup your points? Tell me why I am wrong and let's see if we can have a fun little debate here!

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 920

    also looking at your post I see a lot of complaining about the ruin nerf as well as oni being weak. kinda hypocritical.

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