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Im considering refund for CHAPTER VI: A Nightmare on Elm Street

Lukepro2315Lukepro2315 Member Posts: 42
edited January 2020 in General Discussions

Creators presented Freddy as killer with some special abilities - permanently invisible, with simple and smooth skills - put someone to sleep, then you are able to attack it. I like that, thats why i bough this DLC. And after while it gets complete rework, with senseless Traps OR fake pallets (Why THOSE skills? Is it somehow connected to original movie? Why ONE of those skills? Why teleport to generators? Why invisible ONLY in designated range? It really makes no sense). By my opinion Freddy became from "top fun" killer, to one of most useless and boring killers in game!!!

Its like when you buy new Porshe, after while you HAVE TO go to car service and get out from there with Fiat.

I really dont like this "scam".



  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 3,536

    Did you ever play against a Freddy though? He was awful. Nobody liked going against him.

    I enjoyed playing as old Freddy but for survivor it was so bad I am glad they changed him.

  • Primalux135Primalux135 Member Posts: 1,045
  • EndstilleEndstille Member Posts: 2,246

    I love how people tend to generalize something and act as if T&C, TOA or whatever are above the law. Not even bother to ask where the person is from.

  • Brucecastro81Brucecastro81 Member Posts: 1,609

    Old Freddy is S tier, New Freddy is D tier

  • SuperyoshieggSuperyoshiegg Member Posts: 1,390

    So I suppose I should be entitled to a refund to the base game then?

    After all, the game isn't exactly the same as it was four years ago, when I bought it.

    I spent $16 on the 2016 launch version of the game, they're not allowed to change anything in MY paid product!

  • judge_fistjudge_fist Member Posts: 114

    Freddy was an easy win for survivors before the rework. It was bad and as killer you were so useless unless they were in dream world and even then it was still so underwhelming. The change made him fun and viable. Anyone who says otherwise has not been playing DBD long enough.

  • kreeper124kreeper124 Member Posts: 482

    I really don't understand how anyone thinks old Freddy was better. Maybe old Freddy was fun to play as, but he was just horrible.

    Picture this. A basic M1 killer, but you couldn't attack anyone until you put them to sleep. That's old Freddy. The new Freddy has all the tools a killer would need. He may need some tweaks here and there, but otherwise he's fine the way he is

  • shootaman777shootaman777 Member Posts: 138

    I feel you, OP.

    Old Freddy was very fun. He was one of the few killers who could punish survivors by putting them at his mercy.

    The formula for such a match was this:

    -tunnel 1 person (the obsession) to death, with (pre-nerf) Remember Me (and potentially ye olde Dying Light).

    -put the three remaining survivors to sleep without injuring them (this was back when Adrenawin did not wake up survivors)

    -slug them all down with aura reading (and potentially NOED), as they are unable to open exit gates (it took 45 or 90 seconds to open exit gates, awake or asleep, respectively, IIRC, and there was no way to wake up other than sabo, if healthy with gates powered). Survivors treated Freddy as a joke back then and would often genrush in his face, allowing for consistent NOED activation.

    -kill them at your leisure

    It was incredibly hard to pull off, as smart survivors quickly understood what was going on and coordinated hook dives to save the obsession (but their BT allowed extra stacks of Remember Me to be gathered). But man, forcing survivors to cry uncle was incredibly satisfying, and I miss it so much.

    The difference between old/new Freddy is when his killer power is effective. New Freddy's killer power becomes weaker later in the match (by losing gen teleport when gates are powered), whereas old Freddy was only brutally lethal in endgame.

  • polipoli Member Posts: 34

    in all seriousness olease bo back to fortnite qor whatever childness game you came from.

  • LetsPlayTogetherLetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    You accepted the Terms of Srvice. So dont complain, cause you didnt read them properly.

  • kurgan8282kurgan8282 Member Posts: 264
    edited January 2020

    Imo it's thenonly rework that went for the better,actually.

    I was Freddy main even before and,after some months of break, I found it totally changed, and loved those changes.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    Yeah, the store still says Freddy is the old way then when you hit buy he's not that's definitely false advertising. Can't claim someone has something for a sale then it not be there. Also Freddy was insanely hard the old way, now we can run circles around him so I fully see why you want a refund. I never won an old Freddy game and now I win nearly every single one. Not being able to see Freddy and him hitting me which hurt and put me to sleep made original Freddy nearly impossible to beat, he essentially got a free hit.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    Old Freddy you had no idea where he was, you hear lulliby and you run. Now I can see him and stay in a Gen and finish my rush, before if I stayed on a Gen he could pull me off while awake as he put me to sleep. This made Freddy one of the top killers. Once he got his rework everyone went back to wraith.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,656

    i highly doubt you ever played the old freddy.

    or you forgot the /s, one of the two.

    ill make it short: old freddy was said to be the worst killer in the game - for a good reason.

    his power literally worked against him and it was 100% luck dependent whether it would benefit you or they got rid of it immediately.

    the new version is an overall improved killer, who is even considered to be top tier. i highly doubt that you have a much easier time against him nowadays.

  • Mister_xDMister_xD Member Posts: 7,656

    Sorry, the ToS (Terms of Service), which you agreed to, state that anything currently present in the game can be subject to change later on.

    honestly, if you ask me, in freddys case it was for the better. they changed the, at that time, worst killer in the entire game to an absolute nightmare to play against (pun intended).

    freddy has gotten tons of cool new mechanics without having any major downside, while old freddy had only few upsides compared to many incredibly harsh downsides (such as an survivors invulnerability while awake).

    and since you asked why only one of the dream traps, this has two different reasons:

    1) balance. it would be immensly broken to let freddy have not only the snares but also the dream pallets.

    2) he'd have too many abilities, as he now had multiple power abilities and a passive ability. this would mean that you'd have to add an extra button just for him having multiple abilities, so he'd have snares with M2, gen teleport with CTRL and fake pallets with another button to press. that'd be a little too much at some point, honestly.

  • Eye66Eye66 Member Posts: 817

    He's a heck of a lot better now, as someone who bought it at release. I feel like I'm 2010 Freddy instead of some guy that looks like him.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    "I highly doubt you".. Yeah because I'm just coming to the forum to lie. I'm not you, so we can first remove the assumption I'm lying. I sucked against the old Freddy. I couldn't see him and got messed up by him. I was a new player then also so maybe ide have found ways around him. The new Freddy is trash, I rarely play a single game against this amazing killer you're defending. Maybe because he's not amazing and no one wants anything to do with him now.

  • StrickxNyneStrickxNyne Member Posts: 230

    I wonder if the devs share any statistics, like how many used to play Freddy VS how many play him now VS how many wins Freddy had then VS how many he has now. Ide be willing to guess he was played more then with more wins than now.

  • JarMa13JarMa13 Member Posts: 40

    The original Freddy was so OP it was ridiculous.

    I'll never forget playing as Freddy. I truly felt guilty. I killed all 4 before a gen was done.

    You can ALWAYS see them. Either a white aura or red if they're out of sight, whether distance or crouching right in front of you. The survivors cannot hide, cannot get away. There was no chance.

    So everyone started talking about how Freddy is a trash killer.

    But the devs didn't understand that the problem was that he was too OP and the solution was to take red auras out of the equation

    Instead they did a total rework that made him EVEN STRONGER but is no fun at all and totally unlike the actual Freddy.

    As usual, the devs did the worst possible thing they could do.

    Go get your money back

    OP Freddy was waaay better.

    Even if I could only play him with no perks and add-ons.

    I still got 4k but I felt less guilty doing it.

  • twistedmonkeytwistedmonkey Member, Trusted Posts: 4,291

    You hardly saw Freddy in the past.

    They couldn't sneak a hit as he had to put you to sleep and within that time he phased in and out so you could see him when you were falling asleep at random moments.

    His power was negated by self care as you could break out of sleep with a skill check. It could even be done in a chase with rng on your side meaning he had to sleep you again for a possible hit.

    It was 7 seconds to put someone to sleep plenty time to get to a pallet. Some add-ons reduced that but it was still bad for him.

    He couldn't stop hook saves. End game was especially bad for him and why most i faced ran NOED.

    He was basically a put to sleep m1 killer. His only potential was to slow the game down but even with the add-ons to stop as many skill checks it was all to easy to get out of sleep. Swf were a nightmare for him no pun intended as they would wake each other up.

  • DreamnomadDreamnomad Member Posts: 2,847

    This is a particularly dumb post because Freddy got a massive upgrade. You originally bought a bad killer. Now you own the best killer. But the killer with the best kill rate in the game isn't good enough for you huh? Whatever. It's not like a refund is an option anyway.

  • JohnofPAJohnofPA Member Posts: 12

    I think we just got trolled and baited. Nice.

  • Hex_BoopTheSnootHex_BoopTheSnoot Member Posts: 151

    Boo hoo.

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