Why would I stop recycling your posts? If you do one thing, and then call someone else out for doing the same thing, it's called hypocrisy and I think it needs mentioning, cause it's not fair on your part. Obviously being called out on that bothers you and I apologize for that, but really, just be impartial and straight up.
If you want to debate, debate, but back up your own words and history.
Why are you just attacking me right now? I legit just admitted he could be telling the truth. Does belittling everything I say make you feel better about yourself?
I've actually been pretty civil here. I haven't been rude, I haven't called you any names, I haven't even been facetious. I'm disagreeing with you based on your debate strategy in previous interactions we've had. That is not an attack. I don't appreciate you accusing me of something I have not done. I'm sorry if that offends you, it's obviously not my intention, but it is what it is, I suppose.
Belittling - dismissive of the importance of a person or thing. I'm not dismissing anything. All I literally said was don't call someone else out for doing something you do frequently. It's not fair on your part. Criticism =! belittlement. If you don't like someone politely calling you out on a double standard like this, then maybe you should be more impartial and make a habit of being more straight up with your words.
In any case, my point still stands. Billy is easy to go against. It's so ridiculously easy to force him to M1 you it's not even funny.
You make him sound ridiculously OP. He's honestly not. His saw gives him good pressure. I'd also say the hitbox on it is a bit too big. Otherwise he's not that bad.
Wait what even started this argument? You didn't want to agree with me even though I said Billy can't use his chainsaw at pallets or windows well?
You called someone else's claims based on their personal experience unfounded. I merely, politely mentioned that you've done the same thing on numerous occasions. You didn't like that, and took it as an attack. That about sums it up.
In any case, we should get back on topic. :)
The hitbox isn't even that big, though. Most of that is desync. Sometimes the saw will be close enough to shake the hair on their back and it still won't count as a hit. Other times the saw will count as a hit from 25 feet through a window. Desync man, not the hitbox:P
Well no one considers my claims founded...
I consider your claims founded <3
Don’t forget right
Thank you! ❤
That's not the point. Whether people agree or disagree with you isn't the point. You state your personal experience as direct evidence and undeniable fact a lot of the time. Then you turned around and called someone else out for doing the exact same thing. That's literally the only thing I took issue with.
Well I don't mean for my claims to sound undeniable. I haven't been posting here for too long :P
What makes Billy powerful is not his insta-downs. (That's just the cherry on top) What makes him powerful is the pressure that he has by being able to get across the map with his chainsaw. If Billy didn't have insta-downs he would still be better than half the killers in dead by daylight just because of the ability to apply pressure throughout the map.
Billys snowball is too powerful though. Spirit can win a chase but she still has to hit people twice.
Survivors can be dominating but once Billy gets one survivor down, then sprints across and instadowns another all within 10 seconds the game drastically shifts.
I’ve played thousands of games and Billy is the one that can wreck a team the fastest out of all the killers. Nurse theoretically could but it was rare you would ever see a player do that.
Say its bad teammates all you want but it has been pretty consistent so they can’t all be bad players. Also these Billys when they chase me I notice they are not exceptional players at all and normally mediocre.
Billy is too strong for how easy he is to use. That’s all their is too it. People say Spirit is easy to use but thats not the case thats why low rank Spirits resort to camping the hook. They don’t have the confidence to use her power in a chase because they always miss survivors as they don’t have the experience to predict survivor movements. As she is 110% speed then killers can’t just cheese the chase through luck as shes too slow.
Stronger killers should have a higher skill requirement like Huntress, Nurse and Spirit all do.
Billy does not have this. While a good player is obviously noticeably different to a new Billy player the fact is that Billy is a character where anyone can pick him up and still do well. God help you if you get low ranks on your team. I remember every rank reset Billy was the one you had to watch out for because if the survivors weren’t expert loopers they were all going down within 10 seconds of each other. I’ve always noticed that with Billy the survivors skill always needs to greatly exceed the Billys skill to win, which goes back to my original point of that he’s too strong in relation to how easy he is to use.
I call it the primary attack because in most games most of the hits he lands on survivors are instadowns. I get M2 is his power but when every hit is an instadown its a little too much. Only really bad billys tend to land M1s more than M2s.
I see Billy wreck games all the time. According to stats he has the second highest killrate in the game so.... even more than Spirit who was “overperforming”.
Only bad survivors really struggle against billys. He can be looped and window cheesed like any other m1 killer.
And yet most survivors tend to godown to his chainsaw even at red ranks.
Only bad Billys struggle to land chainsaw hits, it only takes a second or two to land that chainsaw hit and it has a very generous hitbox at windows especially combined with his dash.
Add me on steam and try to catch me with your billy? it should be such easy task since billy is such overpowered killer. You can also record it and send it to this thread
Uhhhh Freddy's fine. He doesn't need any buffs he's in a pretty good spot. Same can sorta be said for Doucheface and Wraith
Do you see how easy it is though? To just make that argument “only _____ players struggle to do this”.
When survivors go down to Billy they’re bad survivors but when Billy doesn’t get someone down its “billys balanced”, its never a bad Billy.
Its the opposite problem of what went on with Spirit. Where survivors going down = spirit OP, but Spirit being run around for multiple gens = bad Spirit. Basically people will use anything to justify their pre-existing beliefs.
Just because it’s theoretically possible to loop him doesn’t mean it’s always going to happen.
It’s theoretically possible to loop almost all of the killers in the game all game yet that doesn’t happen. Nobody is going into game after game and looping a killer for 5 gens everytime. There’s no excuse to go down to Leatherface but hes been getting kills since day 1. You’re basically putting this standard on survivors that they need to play perfectly every second of every game and then you’re taking the killers ability to mindgame and predict out of the equation as well.
So why don't you accept my challenge then? according to you, you should be playing with overpowered killer against my weak, weak survivor.
You said so much yet so little. Clearly you are afraid to accept my challenge, since you know i will loop you into oblivion
Oh ok so if a really good Billy player like OhTofu or Battleguy downed me at a loop by being good at flicking with Billy it means I'm a bad survivor?
Thanks for the tips my guy 😁
Because this is petty? Its basically “1v1 me dude”
Why put the expectation on survivors that they need to play perfectly and make zero mistakes?
Whats your thought on Bubba then, who also has a normal movement speed and access to an instadown at all times?
Okay. If you are not willing to put money where your mouth is, my point still stands. Only bad survivors struggle against billy, becouse he can be looped and window cheesed. Don't respond unless you want to accept
Billy's chainsaw is very loud and survivors can easily avoid a Billy coming from far away. If you get sniped by Billy, it's entirely your fault.
Just rush the already broken Gen speed, also be good a jungle gym loops
In my experience, most red ranks survivors go down to his chainsaw after they loop him for the time worth of 3 gens. It's not unlikely at all for a Billy to end up M1ing, because it takes too long to down them with the chainsaw.
Billy will absolutley shred survivors that put themselves in bad positions and get caught out, however that is completley on the survivor to make those mistakes.
OP dosn't mean effective, it means there is no or limited counters, Billy has plenty. (Sound of saw, loops)