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Should I play with NOED? Tell me, please!



  • WaffleyumboyWaffleyumboy Member Posts: 4,731

    Free kills are fine, it's the survivors' fault for not doing dulls don't ya know :))

  • LetsPlayTogetherLetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 722

    If you dont want to get any better in this game you can rely on training wheels like NOED. But dont think people will applaud you.

  • FrenziedRoachFrenziedRoach Member Posts: 1,608

    There is one fatal flaw in your reasoning - and that the perk is in the survivor's hands to prevent from happening.

    Not just doing the bones either. The moment you realize NOED is in play, nothing says you have to rescue anybody. In fact, refusing to play the killer's game and just GTFO is a perfectly acceptable choice in that moment.

    If the entire team gets downed by a NOED killer because they all just had to go for the rescue, then the survivors failed due to their own pride and greed, end of story.

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 2,769

    You can really tell by certain comments how effective it is ;3

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,425

    @FrenziedRoach NOED rewards bad play. You never see a good player take NOED, it’s always the bad players.

    Its hilarious how killers always defend it. You know if it was on the survivor side they would be screaming. Hell they are about Adrenaline and begging for nerfs.

    Its hard to stop NOED as a solo survivor. If you run around on a totem hunt you miss out on so much else you wont get points. You have to confirm all 5 are out though, you cant just rely on other survivors. You can run around and not find some, have you missed them? Have they been cleansed? Even small game is no good as it wont tel you if the totem has been destroyed.

    People have talked about ways to make NOED fair. You want survivors to do totems? Fine. How about a notification so solo players know how many have been done?

    bzzzzz veto’d. Killer mains wont allow it because they dont actually want survivors doing the totems. They want NOED to activate as its far more powerful and easier than having survivors cleansing totems.

    With NOED its always “git gud, just cleanse totems” but its funny how when it comes to DS asking them to simply “stop tunneling” and its “DEEEEVS!! NERF PLZ!!”

    @almo care to share the actual statistic if you have it? Outside of swf It definitely activates far, far more than survivors cleansing all 5 totems.

    I can’t believe the game designer uses NOED. Hmm, then again maybe that explains more than I realise.

    Do you stream? When I see Pigs with NOED I get bad vibes. Would nice to be dispel that image.

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,425

    Well I’m in the camp that thinks end game crutches like adrenaline and NOED shouldn’t be able to screw the other side at the last second. Nobody likes the blue shell.

    I’ll stick those in the airlock instead.

  • AneurysmAneurysm Member Posts: 298

    Run it if you want to but try not to get attached to it, some killers you can tell they have it & rely on it by the way they never give up on chases or bother defending gens at all, often followed by a DC if it's destroyed instantly or never activates. It's not pretty.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 891

    There are plenty of ways for solos to find totems , I never play with SWF and I have no problems with finding and cleansing .

    1. small game

    2. detectives

    3. maps

    4. cleanse totems on your way to another gen

    5. not really a counter but advice , totems usually have common spawn points . just try and memories where they can spawn and check those places on your way to another gen or when doing nothing.

    like many people have said , this perk lays in the hands of survivors , if they're sole objective is to pump out gens and they get hit with noed then it's on them .

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,425

    Ok fine.

    But if the killer gets hit with DS it’s on them.

  • Polychrome_BakuPolychrome_Baku Member Posts: 331

    Stop perk shaming people. If you want to look at it a certain way, EVERY perk is a crutch. Dead Hard screws a killer out of a hit or extends a loop. Self Care undoes the damage a killer worked hard to inflict on you. Sprint Burst rewards bad positioning. Lithe strengthens unsafe pallets and windows. Borrowed Time rewards bad hook saves. Decisive Strike is a second chance crutch. Etcetera. Unless you play perkless every game, you have no right to judge anyone for the perks they use.

    As they say, people in glass houses should shut the [BAD WORD] up.

  • underlord99underlord99 Member Posts: 891

    we weren't even talking about DS. I dont know why you brought that up lmao.

  • TFjawbreakerTFjawbreaker Member Posts: 34

    Use doc with bbq, blood warden, noed, and nurses

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,425

    Because when killers dont like something its nerf, nerf, nerf and a lot of excuses.

    When survivors dont like something its adapt or jump through hoops. No matter how much effort needs to be put in killers will argue some counterplay in some way. Best one is “dont get hooked”.

  • Warcrafter4Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 238

    Not trying to be rude or disrespectful but:

    Wouldn't this logic apply(In reverse being survivor's asking for nerfs) to you and billy?

  • ClickyClickyClickyClicky Member Posts: 1,425

    Thats one thing after pages and pages of discussing balance issues.


    DS - I can’t tunnel now - nerf

    Borrowed Time - I can’t camp now - nerf

    Adrenaline - That speed boost stops me using my NOED immediatey - nerf

    Toolboxes - muh gen speeds - nerf

    Gen speeds in general - too quick, nerf

    instaheals & keys - nerf (but moris are fine)

    Exhaustion perks - I cant catch survivors - nerf

    self-care - i dont want survivors healing - nerf

    Head on - I dont like being stunned - nerf

    etc etc

  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 1,549

    I wouldn't suggest running NOED all the time if you're still learning killer as it can lead to some bad habits. NOED is generally super effective into purple ranks, but tends to swing hard in the other direction against true red rank survivors.

    A lot of killers that run NOED all the time have a tendency to lack pressure or game awareness early because they're used to snowballing at the end. In my experience, they're generally content to continue chases long past the point of no return and have extreme tunnel vision.

    I think it's best and most effective to run NOED when you can reliably perform without it. This way, you develop good killer habits like pressure, chase skill, game awareness, etc., and then you can also take advantage of NOED if it gets to endgame. I run it on weaker M1 killers from time to time and find that games sometimes don't even make it to endgame. It's just nice to have in your back pocket if things so sideways or you get survivors that know what pallets are.

  • RaccoonRaccoon Member Posts: 2,769

    *gets 32k w/ double pip running NOED*


  • edgarpoopedgarpoop Member Posts: 1,549

    Or in my case, runs NOED/BW/Remember Me/Fire Up on Clown. "Lol. Needs NOED and BW to get kills at rank 2. Trash." Yup. Clown needs perks to get kills at rank 2. More at 11.

  • VetratheneVetrathene Member Posts: 701

    Do it. Before they nerf NOED because it ruins 'survivor' fun.

  • ToxicClaudToxicClaud Member Posts: 13

    I mean you should but be weary that as a survivor I make sure to do any dull totem o run into because of the possibility of NOED. And so there are other players who do dull totems either because of blood points or NOED

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 5,758

    Use any perk you want. They all have pros and cons. In the case of Hexes there is greater divide in the pros and cons. Play how YOU want.

  • CoderCoder Member Posts: 373

    Adrenaline, Dead Hard, DS, etc... won't make you a better survivor either.

  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 5,758
    edited January 26
  • DudeDeliciousDudeDelicious Member Posts: 5,758

    I have a hilariously good time running Rancor, Furtive, and Nemesis. Nemesis ensures I can have an Obsession when I want to a degree by forcing a pallet stun on me, and then at endgame I can hook camp the Obsession and it doesn’t matter if the teammates have BT because I’m just going to instadown whoever does the save. Hook them, rinse repeat, no totem to cleanse. The only counter the survivors have is to just let whoever is on the hook die.

  • randomhuman9999randomhuman9999 Member Posts: 317

    I equip NOED for a few reasons mostly related to game imbalance:

    1. those awful large maps
    2. SWF (with comms)
    3. Broken matchmaking
    4. Poor totem spawning locations

    NOED is NOT a guarantee. My matches are usually where I get 3-4K or because of the above issues I struggle to get 2k and NOED helps with that. Not always.

    And I am not a camper / slugger by nature, but I do slug sometimes for the 4K or situational if I feel I’m going up against a tryhard sweaty SWF group playing as if it’s some kind of tournament.

    Its a clutch perk to me.

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