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To punish those who genrush all welcome to read.

Hero_awesomeHero_awesome Member Posts: 282
edited January 2020 in General Discussions

I just had a match were I do what the Dev's said to do. Try different build and experiment. Only thing is I guess I've been getting unlucky with the matchmaking. I mean SWF after SWF. Who just rush generator's and teabag. So after I got one down and heard 3 gens pop. I left her and Just waited for the last 2 to go. At that point I didn't even wanna try it's preety much GG unless I Camp and slug and play dirty. Not my playstyle so if they wanna rush gen's so be it. I opened the exit gates and there it is. No one pipped but I de-piped. I'd rather have it that way then me try after 3 gen's pop. And barley get 2 kills by playing dirty and stuff.



  • AsePlayerAsePlayer Member Posts: 1,829

    They could've also been straight up not using comms. You can't know to what extent they did anything tbh.

  • Hero_awesomeHero_awesome Member Posts: 282

    Save your breath man. He's likely a rank 12 or higher. When he's on stream he's using someone else's account.

  • KingHEADBUSTERKingHEADBUSTER Member Posts: 75

    Camping is like spawn killing

    Gen rush is regular gameplay

    Get good.

  • LetsPlayTogetherLetsPlayTogether Member Posts: 2,117

    Genrush doesnt exist. Its an excuse of killer mains for performing bad. So everytime a killer main says gen rush is a thing its just an insult to themselfs.

  • DeadeyeDeadeye Member Posts: 3,466

    Which would mean the first guy dies on first hook and you probably get the second one as well or some hook exchanges, with any random guy die at the end. Maybe even more if they try too hard and you get 2 downs.

    @LetsPlayTogether Genrush is a thing if multiple people run Prove Thyself and / or bring multiple toolboxes, eating the second stage of the first downed survivor to finish 4 gens. For example. There's nothing you can do about it as killer unless you luckily run into that gen they just put their brand new parts in.

    Generally: of course it is the killers task to put pressure on gens and survivors, some basekits have better or worse tools to do so. I currently have really good games and mostly jsut a hatch escape every third game with Demogorgon. Most of the games have the first gen done instantly (first down = first gen) and the second pops short after, during the second chase or down. But after that, I'm normally at the spot where 2 people are healing or on hook and another one needs to unhook and I manage to get into chase one after another. Even if three gens are done and 4 survivors still alive, I can get to the 4k.

    The problem is, killers can throw games by single mistakes. There are situations where you instantly can lose all your pressure if you mess up, like going for the "wrong" survivor and losing him, while when done correctly you could have two downs. Survivors have a lot of perks that allow them to make mistakes and extend chases. And this is the main issue. While killers need to play almost perfectly to get solid games, survivors profit way more from killer mistakes than killers from survivor mistakes, and survivors have a better pool of second chance perks, which again give way more value if used correctly.

    And regarding the skill level: every noob survivor can hold M1, the chases might end quicker but still other survivors finish gens easily. So it is enough to have one good chaser in the team. And you don't know who is easiest to down until you chased all of them once, to determine if it makes sense to drop a chase. And still, drop the chase and hope you are lucky to find a gen they are working on. If not, it pops.

    That, all in all summarizes in my opinion, why people like Monto still manage easy 4k, or FunGoose had recently a 100+ 4k streak even with new ruin and changing killers, while other killers complain about gen rushing, just because they... make faults. Like almost everyone in this game. Just killers get punished harder for mistakes, without the help of old ruin.

  • ReallyBigShoeReallyBigShoe Member Posts: 764

    That's not necessarily true. While genrushing isn't a thing, I agree with that, it doesn't mean the killer is performing bad. Map balance and generators are a real issue.

  • DeadeyeDeadeye Member Posts: 3,466

    Peanits plays red ranks. And he is right on this point. Mostly you even get a free hit for such behaviour while still being able to hook your prey.

    And jsut read your second post, so... probably don't need to take you serious.

  • Number22Number22 Member Posts: 27

    I can understand being annoyed about how fast gens get done. I can understand not agreeing with gen speeds and thinking they should be fixed. That's an opinion that can be understood, even if you don't agree with it. What I don't understand is when killers get mad at the survivors for completing gens quickly to win the match. The main objective for survivors is to complete generators as quickly as possible, survive and escape. The longer it takes to complete the gens, the more at risk you are of being downed and hooked, especially for people that aren't very skilled at looping and evading killers. No [bad word for poop] completing gens quickly is used as a tactic. "Do gens slowly so I can hook some of you" is not something that a survivor is going to agree with LOL. Just like it's not your prerogative to accommodate the survivors and play a certain way to please them, the same goes for survivors vs killer.

    The objective is to escape and survive, not pander to the killer's wants and needs. I personally don't shame/criticize killers when they use certain perks, add ons, characters etc because they are a part of the game, and it's just the way the game functions, even if I don't like it. Even camping and tunneling is something you're technically allowed to do, which is why I don't DC or complain on the forums about it because it's just the way it is. It's annoying as all hell, but it's allowed and just the way it is. Can't control the way people play if it's legit/accepted. At that point it's just whining with no beneficial outcome.

    Why get mad at the killers and criticize them for killing me a certain way if they're playing legit strategies/using legit items and their main objective is to kill me? Why get mad at survivors for trying to quickly get out, escape and survive when it's their main objective? If you're going to be mad, be mad at the devs and people that made the game the way it is, not the people that are playing the game and using what's available to them to sway the odds. Btw, if you feel the need to tunnel or camp, go for it. It REALLY annoys me, and I think it's douchey and sweaty, but at the end of the day it's not your duty to play a certain way for me, and it's not against the rules. Kill me.

  • Eye66Eye66 Member Posts: 792

    *ignores that this ensures nobody can be safely chased or hooked and trolling the heck of of killer* which apparently devs like Peanits fully endorse

  • humanbeing1704humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 6,728

    Doubt you went against swfs literally every game

  • ppo8820ppo8820 Member Posts: 763

    So survivors doing their objective too quickly for your liking, means they deserve to be punished? Do you see how flawed that mentality is spelled out in simple terms. Gen rushing isn’t real. It’s literally the only survivor objective towards surviving. Lol

  • NullEXENullEXE Member Posts: 1,632

    Peanits you savage x'D.

    But Peanit's right dude. I had a swf today where a Meg was the designated "chaser". Fully equiped with OoO, a Flashlight, and spend the whole game Pallet/Locker spamming unless I chased her.

    I ignored her all game, and tunneled the first survivor I got. Then it was 1v2 with an annoying ass mosquito.

    In End Game Chat they said I had to tunnel because I couldn't handle their "awesome comp", and we're reporting me for tunneling/camping.

    However 4-man swf's are hell in this game when they want to be, and most games the swf doesn't make mistakes like my match did.

  • Steve0333Steve0333 Member Posts: 529

    The game is hardest for the killer in the beginning and gets easier near the end. The more gens that get finished the harder the game gets for the survivor since there are less gens the killer has to patrol. The point is that you don't want to give up too early. I've been in multiple games where survivors pop 2-3 gens before I get my first down and still end with 4k.

  • NumB_16NumB_16 Member Posts: 78

    the only thing that ensures nobody can be safely chased or hooked is the killer. flashlights were nerfed multiple times (no more instablinds, survivor has to be in killer FOV to blind, quicker pickup animation), if you keep getting blinded while picking a survivor that's on you: face a wall, bait the flashlight save, see where the survivor is and face the other way... there's so much counterplay to it...

  • Eye66Eye66 Member Posts: 792

    Lol instablinds sitll happen from behind all the time

  • fcc2014fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    Logic and reason have no place in these discussions begone. It is always SWF and Genrush as the culprit.

  • ALostPuppyALostPuppy Member Posts: 3,398

    What maps were you playing on, what killer were you playing as and how good are you at killer? These all factor in to how well you do in a match. If you're playing, for example, Clown on Fractured Cowshed you're simply not going to win. But if you're playing a better killer on a slightly better map then maybe it's a combination of you needing to improve in several areas and the survivors simply being better at the game. You should learn when to slug, and also when to stop chasing someone if you want your gens to stay

  • karlofflugosikarlofflugosi Member Posts: 61

    This whole community has become too ######### toxic. Say goodbye to the casual players.

  • T4ank3dT4ank3d Member Posts: 32

    Can we really make accusations like this without getting banned?

    Oh wait . . .

  • T4ank3dT4ank3d Member Posts: 32

    Too true.

    It's been tough but I write off the first 3 gens mentally. So long as I was able to retain the area/gens that I was working towards the turnout is generally in my favor.

    On the other hand if gens popping depresses/frustrates you. Throw on NOED and be glad you are about to have 4 perks to play with 🤣

  • Blister987Blister987 Member Posts: 54

    Maybe you're bad, haven't you consider it? It cannot be possible that every match you go into is a 4 man SWF, but if you believe it is, i have the perfect Youtuber/streamer for you, he's called Tru3ta1ent.

  • HectorBrandoHectorBrando Member Posts: 2,057

    Its the Schrodinger's survivor, he follows you around to bully and stays in the generator rushing at the same time.

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