I agree with this. In no way am I trying bash people who use it, but BT encourages risky plays by survivors, and allows you to do something you wouldn't have been able to do before. People say it's to counter tunneling/camping, but good survivors will use that time to do gens.
My thoughts on NOED are it's fine. If you do bones you won't have to worry about it much. While yes, some players do use it as a crutch perk, but if you do bones it's a waste of a perk slot
DS, BT, and Unbreakable give you undeserved escapes?
NOED is part of the new speed meta, now that Hex Ruin is trash. It literally takes 100 seconds to ensure you won't see NOED. Yeah I understand that it doubles the time spent in match.
Yes, all those perks give you second chances at life for failing and asking absolutely nothing of you.
I'm not saying NOED is unbalanced, it's completely fair. What I am saying is that it's unheallthy design in that just like those survivor perks it gives you a second chance for failing and asking nothing skillful of you.
I'm down with that comment and frankly only have issues with the survivor perks. Hook tech, and DS gen interrupts / locker plays. They undermine the intent of the perk. It is not possible to undermine NOED as far as I know.
The same thing could be said for several other survivor perks. If you can’t find and cleanse totems, which, by the way, perks exist to help you do that, then something is wrong on your end. You can literally remove the perk and weaken the killer by putting them down to three perks instead of four.
If survivors want to rush the objective and not expect NOED to ever be in play then that’s not the killers fault. That’s literally NOED’s purpose in the game right now with Ruin gone, NOED is the new Ruin. If you don’t adapt then you deserve to get sacrificed.
If you have fun running NOED, who cares what survivors think. They'll get over it or they won't, either way just play what's fun for you. Not all killers play to be super skilled or even care about rank. As long as you're having fun, you're doing it right.
This videos sums it all up, I left it on another thread about NOED.
No matter what advantages or what the killer does survivors always believe they should get away. Look at bt, ds, even body blockers( I hate when someone body blocks but I don’t complain it’s part of the game) I will agree that being a camping killer is a pretty ######### way to play but for some killers it’s hard when survivors have so many advantages.
Learn, adapt, improve, survivors are more OP than killers and they hardly ever get nerfed.
I get get what your saying here, as a person who plays in both sides. Us survivors can't blame anyone but ourselves. For me it's always like a little guessing game "like oh I bet this killer might have noed (90% of the time wrong btw). It is definitely a good perk for killers and can help keep them motivated because even as a green rank killer I use it every once in awhile, especially on bad days. I don't get why everyone complains about it on the survivor side... Maybe just.... 👀....
Whether the perk is considered a crutch or not is irrelevant use whatever you want to.
In an idealistic world no one would judge you on whatever perks you running but sadly we're not in an idealistic world and people judge you based on anything they can.
It's the main reason why people tend to throw out camping and tunneling in situations where it wasn't there it's easier to blame someone else than yourself.
If you like noed use it as long as you're having fun that's all that matters
Good killers rather use perks to help them in chase or to track survivors.
That being said its very obvious for survivors when killer potentially has noed due to their playstyle in chases so its smart to cleanse well hidden totems and leave easy ones incase of noed.
Also if killer gets more than 1 kill out of noed thats survivors being bad.
If you can't do well without NOED consistently, then you don't deserve to use NOED. You're just using a crutch perk and are bad. I've played killer for 3 years only before I stopped playing and I have never once used it. I'd rather lose and spend my time focusing on ways to improve before the game is basically over than rely on it. Now that I mention it, I never thought I'd see the day where Ruin would be nerfed before NOED. Truly shows the state of this game.
Some of you sit there and you make excuses and justify it with this or that, and it's just ridiculous. The only thing I will say about NOED is that I was always less likely to be camped and tunneled by a killer when they had it, and it added a bit of excitement at the end of the match that basically didn't exist at all due to the killer being trash for the early game and being unable to hook people.
If you are a good killer, you know that noed is a waste of a slot perk. Instead of it, just use a perk that improves your chance of winning BEFORE the end game. Also, noed is annoying because gives kills to a killer that's not GOOD ENOUGH to win whitout this crutch(yeah, it is a crutch, whatever you say). But there are a lot of survivor's crutch perks, that are annoying to face as killer. So, if you want to use it, go on.
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I agree with this. In no way am I trying bash people who use it, but BT encourages risky plays by survivors, and allows you to do something you wouldn't have been able to do before. People say it's to counter tunneling/camping, but good survivors will use that time to do gens.
My thoughts on NOED are it's fine. If you do bones you won't have to worry about it much. While yes, some players do use it as a crutch perk, but if you do bones it's a waste of a perk slot
I think you need to take a break man.
Its the truth. Getting carried by a perk that entirely rewards doing nothing is sad, and those players are the worst.
No perfectly fine bro, I don’t use noed for my main killers, I’m just mad at the people who bash killers who use noed
U seem pretty angry, someone’s mad about noed lmao
"COUGH" Swf's is the biggest crutch in this game "COUGH" .
Uh-oh... I can already hear the claws tapping...
DS, BT, and Unbreakable give you undeserved escapes?
NOED is part of the new speed meta, now that Hex Ruin is trash. It literally takes 100 seconds to ensure you won't see NOED. Yeah I understand that it doubles the time spent in match.
Yes, all those perks give you second chances at life for failing and asking absolutely nothing of you.
I'm not saying NOED is unbalanced, it's completely fair. What I am saying is that it's unheallthy design in that just like those survivor perks it gives you a second chance for failing and asking nothing skillful of you.
I'm down with that comment and frankly only have issues with the survivor perks. Hook tech, and DS gen interrupts / locker plays. They undermine the intent of the perk. It is not possible to undermine NOED as far as I know.
Yes the survivor ones are highly abusable outside of their intended purpose while NOED is not.
The same thing could be said for several other survivor perks. If you can’t find and cleanse totems, which, by the way, perks exist to help you do that, then something is wrong on your end. You can literally remove the perk and weaken the killer by putting them down to three perks instead of four.
If survivors want to rush the objective and not expect NOED to ever be in play then that’s not the killers fault. That’s literally NOED’s purpose in the game right now with Ruin gone, NOED is the new Ruin. If you don’t adapt then you deserve to get sacrificed.
Except if gens don't get done or you are sacrificed lol
Well DS+Unbreakable is essentially uncounterable, whereas NOED can be taken out before it even activates.
It doesn't always pop? Also the majority of the time it does nothing because you're already healthy and don't need a speed boost?
When did I say that it wasn't?
And with that I would agree.
NOED is a must with the current state of the game.
As someone who plays both roles a ton...it is a crutch.
If you have fun running NOED, who cares what survivors think. They'll get over it or they won't, either way just play what's fun for you. Not all killers play to be super skilled or even care about rank. As long as you're having fun, you're doing it right.
This videos sums it all up, I left it on another thread about NOED.
No matter what advantages or what the killer does survivors always believe they should get away. Look at bt, ds, even body blockers( I hate when someone body blocks but I don’t complain it’s part of the game) I will agree that being a camping killer is a pretty ######### way to play but for some killers it’s hard when survivors have so many advantages.
Learn, adapt, improve, survivors are more OP than killers and they hardly ever get nerfed.
https://youtu.be/mz296Izw-S8
I get get what your saying here, as a person who plays in both sides. Us survivors can't blame anyone but ourselves. For me it's always like a little guessing game "like oh I bet this killer might have noed (90% of the time wrong btw). It is definitely a good perk for killers and can help keep them motivated because even as a green rank killer I use it every once in awhile, especially on bad days. I don't get why everyone complains about it on the survivor side... Maybe just.... 👀....
✧･ﾟ: *✧･ﾟ:*Get good? ✧･ﾟ: ✧･ﾟ:
(Just do bones, dammnnnnn.) ฅ(＾・ω・＾ฅ)
it is for bad killers though, the kids who hate to feel like they lost because they can't take an L.
Whether the perk is considered a crutch or not is irrelevant use whatever you want to.
In an idealistic world no one would judge you on whatever perks you running but sadly we're not in an idealistic world and people judge you based on anything they can.
It's the main reason why people tend to throw out camping and tunneling in situations where it wasn't there it's easier to blame someone else than yourself.
If you like noed use it as long as you're having fun that's all that matters
Good killers rather use perks to help them in chase or to track survivors.
That being said its very obvious for survivors when killer potentially has noed due to their playstyle in chases so its smart to cleanse well hidden totems and leave easy ones incase of noed.
Also if killer gets more than 1 kill out of noed thats survivors being bad.
If you can't do well without NOED consistently, then you don't deserve to use NOED. You're just using a crutch perk and are bad. I've played killer for 3 years only before I stopped playing and I have never once used it. I'd rather lose and spend my time focusing on ways to improve before the game is basically over than rely on it. Now that I mention it, I never thought I'd see the day where Ruin would be nerfed before NOED. Truly shows the state of this game.
Some of you sit there and you make excuses and justify it with this or that, and it's just ridiculous. The only thing I will say about NOED is that I was always less likely to be camped and tunneled by a killer when they had it, and it added a bit of excitement at the end of the match that basically didn't exist at all due to the killer being trash for the early game and being unable to hook people.
You can call a kill deserved or not, with broken map sizes, gen speeds and SWF, camped, tunneled or slugged. A kill is a kill
If you are a good killer, you know that noed is a waste of a slot perk. Instead of it, just use a perk that improves your chance of winning BEFORE the end game. Also, noed is annoying because gives kills to a killer that's not GOOD ENOUGH to win whitout this crutch(yeah, it is a crutch, whatever you say). But there are a lot of survivor's crutch perks, that are annoying to face as killer. So, if you want to use it, go on.