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Survivor main, why do you NOT run the meta?

ZoneDymoZoneDymo Member Posts: 1,946
edited February 2020 in General Discussions

Why dont all survivors just run DS, BT, DH and Adren/Unbreak ?

Excluding not owning the DLC's obviously.

Personally im not try hard enough to do it, I know how powerful it is but in my years of gaming I have found many many MANY players do gravitate towards that which just gives them the biggest advantage.

So yeah, why dont you run that build all the time?



  • danielbird11danielbird11 Member Posts: 149

    Cause I like to use different builds to keep survivor gameplay as fresh as possible. I main Feng but always play others because variety. I have been having a lot of fun with head on and quick and quiet lately. But I also love the vault speed build. So much that it's part of my main build now. Which is resilience, sb, iron will and spine chill.

  • SchmierbachSchmierbach Member Posts: 468

    Im not a survivor main, but i don't run the meta builds on survivor for two reasons.

    1. It's to easy to rely on perks that fix your mistakes for you.

    2. I like using imaginative and creative builds. Recently I've taken an interest in Stake out and Detectives hunch.

  • toxicmeggtoxicmegg Member Posts: 662

    because it's boring and you don't always even need those perks. usually i only have one meta perk in my builds, sometimes none. i like to run loot builds, vault speed build, disappear builds, locker builds and something random

    but my normal build is iron will, spine chill, DS or BT and sprint burst

  • Free_HugsFree_Hugs Member Posts: 304

    My current survivor build is Open Handed, Bond, Kindred, and Left Behind.

    Aura reading for allied survivors out to 44 meters means three things. Information on when the killer is in a chase when one starts to move erratically, effective healing without self-care and the best deterrent I've ever found to getting a killer off my back; running to another survivor and ditching them.

    Kindred gives the potatoes the best possible odds of rescuing me, or me getting points off them and knowing if it's safe or if the killer is proxy camping up to 24 meters away.

    Finally if all the lemmings die I find the hatch in a 40 meter radius. I tend to escape in 9/10 games even if all of my allies every game are straight potatoes. I normally don't play with buddies, so getting all the information I can as much as I can is paramount.

  • Alice_pbgAlice_pbg Member Posts: 4,994

    Because the meta is not my gameplay style. Also the meta is boring in general.

  • johnmwarnerjohnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    VarietI for me too, I feel like running the meta I know how most games will play out against most killers, barring the exception good or bad.

    I don’t “play to win,” I’m at red ranks anyways and I’ve proven to myself I can stay at rank 1-2 for extended periods in the current system.

    I play to have fun and help my team. I like to see what most perks can actually do in action, although a few are so bad I can’t even bring myself to try them.

  • OmegaXIIOmegaXII Member Posts: 2,060

    It's too easy to rank up if i use them. In my experience, regardless what i do, i don't depip. Unless the killer camps or tunnels me to death

  • ThatbrownmonsterThatbrownmonster Member Posts: 1,641

    Not a survivor main but I found out that running lithe+dance with me+urban evasion+iron will is more op then any of thoose perks combined

    (unless you playing on a corn map)

  • DonZwiebelDonZwiebel Member Posts: 130

    I usually change the perks I am playing with after a while.

    Right now I'm using Kindred, Alert, Iron Will and one perk I change every game by mood.

  • IceCreamPrincessIceCreamPrincess Member Posts: 226

    For me its 3 fold. I dont like adrenaline, don't like unbreakable, and never use borrowedtime

    I have never used adrenaline, since i wouldnt choose when it would go off, its effect is (to me) far to minor, plus ive never unlocked it

    Then i dont like unbreakable, its powerful yes but i never really get the opportunity to make use of it.

    And as for borrow time, great perk, but i just can't justify the perk for myself. If the killers nearby i just wont go for the unhook

    Now decisive i always use, less to protect me from killers but more from my teammates who would unhook infront of the killer. Great perk, incredibly powerful, worth its slot.

    And dead hard, also great perk, usually my go to exhaustion, as its a low risk all reward thing, almost always guarenteeing an extra loop (just use it for distance, trying to actually dodge an attack never works)

    My typical go to builds is DH, DS, Spine Chill (because i have legit never played a survivor match without it) and Kindred (cuz if you got kindred you dont need borrowed time)

  • ASAPTurtleASAPTurtle Member Posts: 968

    I don't run DS like that anymore. I never get tunneled most of my matches.

  • MarcavecuncMarcavecunc Member Posts: 1,536

    Not a survivor main but I play enough survivor and yeah, this. Same on killers really. My huntress runs spies from the shadows and hangman's trick. Why? Because why not? Spies is great, but chain sacrificing survivors on the same hook is even more satisfying. My record is 3, still haven't managed 4.

  • BloodyNightsBloodyNights Member Posts: 526

    Only meta perk I run on survivor is Borrowed Time, and that is simply because killers tend to camp far too much. So it gets use just about every game, and is also very useful in the end game when the killer is actually forced to camp because they can't really do anything else.

    Dead Hard - Dedicated Servers destroyed any chance for me to like or use this perk.

    Decisive Strike - I feel like I get slugged and left on the ground anyways, even with out it. And very rarely do I feel like I actually need it...well maybe 1 in 5 games. Also when a killer uses an ebony mori, it's a dead perk.

    Adrenaline - I don't like that it only works in the end game. I know it can be really strong, but half the time I'm not in a chase at end game or I'm already at full health so it's just a sprint burst at this point. I rarely get the full effects of it...also lots of killers are running NOED.

    Unbreakable. - I have a love hate relationship with this perk. It's usually completely useless every time I put it on, but the time I don't have it on I need it. .-.

  • ElvenmonkElvenmonk Member Posts: 367

    It's not fun.

    Running just the Pebble is fun.

  • oxygenoxygen Member Posts: 2,624

    I use the perks, together or not, but for me it's just about variety. I can't exclusively or even nearly exclusively play one killer for the same reason, even if it's "the best" in one way or another I just get really bored if I do the same thing over and over again.

  • SkeletalEliteSkeletalElite Member Posts: 1,818

    I run basically the meta except instead of BT I run OOO, or whichever of the last choice I didn't take because I like running the killer and they're all perks that cuck the killer.

  • twistedmonkeytwistedmonkey Member, Trusted Posts: 4,255

    If I am being slugged alot I will run tenacity along with unbreakable.

    Seeing a lot of campers I will put on BT just in case.

    Normally it's a mix of Inner Strength, WGLF, Detectives Hunch, Q&Q, Bond, or Iron will.

  • kazakunkazakun Member Posts: 581
    edited February 2020

    I don't own all the DLCs,but have most of these whether it's from Shrine or leveling etc. Was trying to focus more on the characters I have now before getting more. I main Feng/Claudette both just prestige 1 (I took a long break) so I've never ran a single one of these perks even on the ones they come default with.

    I stay around low green to 15 rank...mainly because of mistakes or crashes/DC's. I can win a pretty decent percentage of the time at that rank...maybe like 80% ish,so there's just no reason. Sorta feels mean,idk. I just kinda figured I'm either going to win or get outplayed on my own merits and builds.

    I've considered it a lot of times when the killer is camping as Trapper (and others,but that aggravates me the most)...and I hate the killers that can instantly down you so bad,but it's just not for me I guess. It might be smart at higher ranks and certain situations,but I'm not the type who needs to win every match.

  • DocFabronDocFabron Member Posts: 2,387

    Cause I typically don't need it. The only meta perk I use often is Dead Hard.

    Typical build:

    Dead Hard


    Fixated/Inner Strength

    Detective's Hunch/Botany Knowledge/Any Means Necessary

  • terumisanterumisan Member Posts: 1,281

    I'm going perkless nowadays so I can demonstrate my skill instead of being carried by crutches for survivor

  • VaJayblesVaJaybles Member Posts: 462

    Literally started doing the same, I have a killer account and started playing survivor on it which will be rank 20. Want to see how far I can get by myself with no perks. Or a useless perk nobody really ever runs like lightweight lol

  • Auron471Auron471 Member Posts: 1,308

    I hate running the meta in any game. It just isn’t fun to use the same build over and over again.

    I don’t want to bend over for the meta gods.

  • GalklifeGalklife Member Posts: 726

    i dont use meta perks on survs, and i dont use slowdown perks on killers i have over 2k hours so i can play without training wheels + tryharding is boring you dont have to win every game xd

    BT - i dont run with killer to hook to farm survs (ofc sometimes someone is camped but lately 90% of times when i see someone using BT is surv running with killer to me, and not because killer camped)

    DS - if i was farmed off the hook next to killer, and surv didnt had BT im like well surv doesnt want me in game, killer too, let me die on 2nd hook <shrug>

    adrenaline - are you suggesting randoms will do enough gens to use it?

    unbreakable - its like curse, you have it you wont be slugged

    DH - on dedi servers it doesnt work half of the time xd (killers still call it op KEK) + too many 1shot killers + exhaustion add ons, if i can choose between perk that works every 2nd game and head on, i will choose head on every single time

  • SplinterverseSplinterverse Member Posts: 376

    My attitude is you should put off being spotted as long as you can and then, when you are spotted, evade and escape the chase if at all possible. If you are unable to do the above, then run the killer as long as you can. The notion that a survivor needs to run the killer right away loses a lot of matches. It will eventually happen. No need to force it.

    My build supports what I've said. I frequently survive and do well with gold or better in my emblems.

    Build: Empathy, Urban Evasion, Lithe, Iron Will.

    Empathy shows me where things are happening on the map and helps me find others to heal or be healed. If someone runs No Mither, I see them all match and can tell if they are contributing.

    Urban Evasion means that I can peace out before any killer with a TR reaches me. I can also use it to lose them in chases.

    Lithe allows me a speed boost to escape if spotted or to accelerate to exit if needed. It sucks on the top floor of the Game map but on other maps it is quite good. I also like that I can run the rest of the time unlike with Sprint Burst.

    Iron Will is particularly useful for evading the Spirit but I've often lost other killers who are expecting to hear me crying and can't.

    I don't like the meta perks for myself and how I like to play. I encourage you to try my build.

  • asergioamasergioam Member Posts: 362

    I don't care what others think is best. For me, the best build is: BT, Spine Chill, Kindred and Adrenaline but since I got to p3 with a few characters, I'm just trying to farm items so I'm using for a few months now BT, Plunder's, Ace in the hole and WGLF.

    Even with my best build, with the amount of grinding this game needs, I can't abdicate from WGLF.

  • johnmwarnerjohnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    I like spine chill and kindred too, so much info. The other slot is usually one exhaustion perk and then Detective hunch/pharmacy or something else fun

  • not_Queefnot_Queef Member Posts: 484

    Full crutch meta is boring and makes the game too easy.

    I don't want easy mode, thanks.

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